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    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    @tim said in Beer thread:

    Anyone tried Hop Federation's Lager?

    It's only 14 on the IBU scale, so might be a bit too light in that regard.

    I would probably like it then. I'm finding the hoppier they are the less I am liking them.

    Panhead blue label is the perfect beer for me in terms of Craft. (and I realise that most crafty guys would find that too mild, I imagine)

    It's a decent drop that.

    Recently I've found myself being much less of a beer piston wristed gibbon than in the past. Due to all of a sudden finding myself paying two mortgages I have less spare money for craft brews. I've rediscovered an appreciation for Macs and Monteiths again to be honest, sometimes as little as $12 a half doz.

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    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    I would probably like it then. I'm finding the hoppier they are the less I am liking them.

    By that particular scale that is really on the low side. European pilsners start at 24, apparently.

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    @tim said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    I would probably like it then. I'm finding the hoppier they are the less I am liking them.

    By that particular scale that is really on the low side. European pilsners start at 24, apparently.

    IBU is for bittering units i.e. the bittering hops, not the flavour hops that are making the beer 'taste hoppy'

    Plenty of decent beer around that isn't all about hop flavours. Plenty of average beers around hiding behind hops too.

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    @crucial Yep, it is common in NZ to over-hop "lagers" to hide off flavours etc.

    Jever is close to the ideal of a pilsner for me, with a balance of hop and malt flavours.

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    @dogmeat said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo you still drink Waikato?

    Yes. That is generally in the fridge as I can have a few and not feel ropey. Also I can have 4 pints of Waikato st the pub and drive where if I have craft beer I can’t.

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    @tim said in Beer thread:

    @crucial Yep, it is common in NZ to over-hop "lagers" to hide off flavours etc.

    Jever is close to the ideal of a pilsner for me, with a balance of hop and malt flavours.

    Had to look it up as I'm not a regular Pilsner drinker. Some describe it as very bitter others don't. The difference they promote is the local water they use which is said to be unusually soft.
    I guess you will struggle to find a match to the combination of very soft water (which can change the absorbtion of hop flavours) and a dry brew. Obviously any comparative would also need to be a German style (Hallertau hops) and use pilsner malt.

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    @crucial said in Beer thread:

    very soft water

    The best contract brewers in Europe use electrochemical treatment of their water to get the right mineral content. Shouldn't be particularly expensive. Especially as it is crucial to the flavour of a good lager.

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    @tim said in Beer thread:

    @crucial said in Beer thread:

    very soft water

    The best contract brewers in Europe use electrochemical treatment of their water to get the right mineral content. Shouldn't be particularly expensive. Especially as it is crucial to the flavour of a good lager.

    Many brewers will change the Ph levels of water to suit the brew but just as fairly others want the uniqueness of their water profile to affect the brew and make their product different.
    No need to bland everything out to one profile.

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    @crucial Not just pH. Selective adjustment of the concentration of different ions.

    Ultimately it's probably easier to just run the local water through a Reverse Osmosis Membrane and then add back the salts. Good practice if you want to create a nice Helles, Pilsner, or Kolsch. They really do have a lot of experience over there. 😉

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    @tim said in Beer thread:

    @crucial Not just pH. Selective adjustment of the concentration of different ions.

    Ultimately it's probably easier to just run the local water through a Reverse Osmosis Membrane and then add back the salts. Good practice if you want to create a nice Helles, Pilsner, or Kolsch. They really do have a lot of experience over there. 😉

    I guess my point is that is fine if you want to create a clone or if your available inputs are so different they completely change the style. Clones are boring.

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    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    @dogmeat said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo you still drink Waikato?

    Yes. That is generally in the fridge as I can have a few and not feel ropey. Also I can have 4 pints of Waikato st the pub and drive where if I have craft beer I can’t.

    Even four of those 'beers' is a bit risky with the limit being 250 these days.

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    @mn5 said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    @dogmeat said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo you still drink Waikato?

    Yes. That is generally in the fridge as I can have a few and not feel ropey. Also I can have 4 pints of Waikato st the pub and drive where if I have craft beer I can’t.

    Even four of those 'beers' is a bit risky with the limit being 250 these days.

    Not when you’re a fat fluffybunny. I have have been breath tested more than once with four or five pints and passed.

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    @hooroo said in Beer thread:
    I have four or five pints and (so am) a fat fluffybunny.

    Drew the obvious conclusion for you mate ....

    I wouldn't want to drive after that much unless I had consumed them over several hours. The guidelines suggest 6 hours to be certain (for a non Jabba sized fluffybunny). I know they are massively conservative but ...

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    @dogmeat said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo said in Beer thread:
    I have four or five pints and (so am) a fat fluffybunny.

    Drew the obvious conclusion for you mate ....

    I wouldn't want to drive after that much unless I had consumed them over several hours. The guidelines suggest 6 hours to be certain (for a non Jabba sized fluffybunny). I know they are massively conservative but ...

    I hear you and my post was misleading. It isn't 4 or 5 pints rather 4 or 5 handles, so two 1 litre jugs equiv.

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    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    @mn5 said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    @dogmeat said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo you still drink Waikato?

    Yes. That is generally in the fridge as I can have a few and not feel ropey. Also I can have 4 pints of Waikato st the pub and drive where if I have craft beer I can’t.

    Even four of those 'beers' is a bit risky with the limit being 250 these days.

    Not when you’re a fat fluffybunny. I have have been breath tested more than once with four or five pints and passed.

    wait, i think i saw you on a drink drive ad in the 90s, something about country roads, and taking a keg to get you pissed?

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    Like anything it's subjective. Chronic alcoholics can be skinny as fuck and need to drink a lot to get them over the limit.

    I blew 236 after two Craft beers and a bowl of fries over the xmas break. Turns out they were both 8% ( I thought they were 5% )

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    @tim said in Beer thread:

    Anyone tried Hop Federation's Lager?

    It's only 14 on the IBU scale, so might be a bit too light in that regard.

    Too much DMS. Slightly metallic aftertaste. Mediocre.

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    @mariner4life said in NZ Politics:

    I am just astounded at how much smokes cost. And booze in this country is out of control as well.

    Not if you homebrew 🙂

    was in town at the weekend for a rare night out. Bought a beer at a pub. Not even half a litre (a small handle - probably 440 or something like that).

    Sixteen farking dollars. I almost choked.

    Reminded me why I homebrew ...

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    @nzzp said in NZ Politics:

    @mariner4life said in NZ Politics:

    I am just astounded at how much smokes cost. And booze in this country is out of control as well.

    Not if you homebrew 🙂

    was in town at the weekend for a rare night out. Bought a beer at a pub. Not even half a litre (a small handle - probably 440 or something like that).

    Sixteen farking dollars. I almost choked.

    Reminded me why I homebrew ...

    oh god, home brewers. The worst of the beer piston wristed gibbons. Taste my brew. Isn't it great? It's based on an American Pale Ale. You'll get hints of citrus yadda yadda. And it only costs me $20 a carton mate. Best thing i ever did. You should do it too.

    Yea fuck off mate, i'll let the experts do their thing.

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    @mariner4life said in NZ Politics:

    Yea fuck off mate, i'll let the experts do their thing.

    Nothing like the Codys Appreciation Society

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