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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @bones said in Maori Tour:

    @crazy-horse you may be confusing him with A Ioane or Super Ngatai.

    Although it seems odd that Hall, Gibson, Cowley-Tuioti and Gatland haven't been selected for any national team this weekend.

    Nope!

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    @bones nah somebody in their wisdom suggested JGB was All Black material based on his season with Wellington. May have been one of the more fanatical Wellington posters...

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    Just finished watching the game. Haven't read the comments, but I thought Franklin and Hemopo were the best of the Maori forwards. Bateman and Ngatai of the backs. Garden-Bachop has done West a favour by showing that he (GB) should play for the Canes development team, while West backs up BB in the senior squad. GB was absolute garbage material and shouldn't have been in this squad. He was the worst player on the field. Marty McKenzie would have been a better option (not sure which other Maori 10s would have been better and available).

    I'm the first to admit the Maori ABs were ill-disciplined, but that ref! I checked it several times, and Manihera did nothing that wasn't permitted and he cleaned out before the whistle, not after (which was the ref's reason for the yellow). The yellow for the French prop's high tackle was fully deserved, but that penalty try? I don't think so. I can't remember him ever saying whether his on-field decision was try or no try. So I'm not sure what the TMO was asked to check initially. That would have mattered if the ref hadn't changed his mind and awarded the penalty try. I think the try was scored, but the grounding wasn't visible.

    This was the weakest Maori squad in years. A lot of new players; more players with little or no SR experience than in previous squads; and I really question some of these selections. Not a good start for the new coach. Not sure though whether at some positions there were better alternatives, especially in the forwards, but in the backs there certainly were better options.

    Bleh, I hate when the French win. I hope the ABs smash their senior squad.

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    @stargazer said in Maori Tour:

    Garden-Bachop has done West a favour by showing that he (GB) should play for the Canes development team, while West backs up BB in the senior squad. GB was absolute garbage material and shouldn't have been in this squad. He was the worst player on the field. Marty McKenzie would have been a better option (not sure which other Maori 10s would have been better and available).

    Would he be good enough the make that team?

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    @higgins Only because the Chiefs have signed Falcon. He may be under threat from McClutchie soon, though.

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    Who were the back up first fives for the 'Poo and HB? Come to think of it there is more chance of some kid first year out of a Wellington School 1st XV making it than someone from outside of Wellington if past selections are any guide.

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    @higgins said in Maori Tour:

    Who were the back up first fives for the 'Poo and HB? Come to think of it there is more chance of some kid first year out of a Wellington School 1st XV making it than someone from outside of Wellington if past selections are any guide.

    That was exactly what I was thinking after my previous post. Falcon's back-up last year was Ben Wyness, but he didn't make Manawatu squad. Maybe the mysterious, never seen playing for the Canes, TJ Va'a may get the nod if he's not injured? Or they pick Jade Te Rure if he's still in the region, who - I think - wouldn't be a bad choice?

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    @higgins was it Jade Te Rure??

    Watching Maori game now...just poor cohesion, the 9/10 axis had no direction and seemed indecisive

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by Stargazer
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    @taniwharugby Jade Te Rure wasn't in the Canes Dev team last year due to injury, but should be someone to look at this year for the development team. The Magpies 3rd option at first-five was a 29 year old from their development team.

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    @stargazer Higgins asked who back up poo 10 was, it was Te Rure wasn't it?

    This ref hasn't had much support from his team.

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    Oh good, if it was Te Rure then that should ensure JGB goes nowhere pulling on a Hurricanes jersey ant any level.

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by Stargazer
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    @taniwharugby said in Maori Tour:

    @stargazer Higgins asked who back up poo 10 was, it was Te Rure wasn't it?

    This ref hasn't had much support from his team.

    Ah, sorry, I thought you meant the back-up for the Canes dev team from the Bay or the poo.

    Yes, Te Rure replaced Black when he got injured.

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    @stargazer said in Maori Tour:

    @taniwharugby Jade Te Rure wasn't in the Canes Dev team last year due to injury, but should be someone to look at this year for the development team. The Magpies 3rd option at first-five was a 29 year old from their development team.

    Wasn't Te Rure still playing up in Scotland last northern season thus he would not have been available for Super Rugby Development Team's games.

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    @higgins No, I think they had already released him from his contract; he has been injured most of the time while he was in Scotland (not sure though).

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    Regardless, I still rate him as a decent player, and certainly ahead of JGB who really, as a first five, only has his goalkicking as a strength at this stage. I have however seen JGB go well at centre a couple of times in club rugby.

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    @higgins I rate Te Rure, he played better than Black did before he got injured. I wish the Canes had signed him instead of JGB.

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    @stargazer I'd love NOrthland to pursue him as we need a 10, but apparently he is with Manawatu next year too.

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    @crazy-horse said in Maori Tour:

    @bones nah somebody in their wisdom suggested JGB was All Black material based on his season with Wellington. May have been one of the more fanatical Wellington posters...

    Winger, come out wherever you are....

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    @act-crusader said in Maori Tour:

    @crazy-horse said in Maori Tour:

    @bones nah somebody in their wisdom suggested JGB was All Black material based on his season with Wellington. May have been one of the more fanatical Wellington posters...

    Winger, come out wherever you are....

    @Canes4life

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