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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Hansen and co are keeping their options open. I will be interested to see what happens at the Chiefs in the battle for the starting halfback position. TTT might have edged ahead of Weber.

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    @bovidae yeah I'm liking what I see. He is very busy, takes those "interesting" Smith type options with unique passing options. Plus good size too.

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    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    Moli still in the mix. But he, like a few others in that list, are long-term injured. As Hames isn't attending either they must automatically exclude any player suffering from concussion.

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    By the way, no Ben Lam. So apart from the position where they need to find another back-up (halfback), no other bolters in this list.

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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    So apart from the position where they need to find another back-up (halfback), no other bolters in this list.

    I was impressed by Tahuriorangi last weekend.

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    Unable to attend: Damian McKenzie (concussion), Patrick Tuipulotu (illness).

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/103310467/chiefs-halfback-te-toiroa-tahuriorangi-called-in-for-all-blacks-foundation-day

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    @bovidae said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    Moli still in the mix. But he, like a few others in that list, are long-term injured. As Hames isn't attending either they must automatically exclude any player suffering from concussion.

    There is confusion about the status of his injury. The media reported that he was out for the season but never specified if it was the Super season or the entire season including the Internationals. When I posed this question to Nigel Yalden on his facebook page, he wasn't sure and said that he would get back to me but he never did. So who knows, he might be available for the RC.

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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    By the way, no Ben Lam. So apart from the position where they need to find another back-up (halfback), no other bolters in this list.

    I'm wondering if the ABs know they need a third half back, so can argue bringing in an extra non AB. But might be taking the piss a bit to bring in a bolter to the week stacked back three?

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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    Who is Williams ?

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    Who is Williams ?

    Ill take this as a genuine Q.

    SBW

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    Who is Williams ?

    Ha, I was wondering the same.
    We are so used to using SBW that we hardly ever see him described simply as 'Williams'

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    Hansen said on the TV news tonight that Ioane is a strong contender for the no.8 jersey against France. Nothing really definite but it does suggest he is in the mix.

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    @bovidae Interesting that they are looking at him as an 8. I think his work rate on defence is better at 6, but his ball carrying is better at 8.

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    @kiwimurph said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    From All Blacks Twitter:

    NEWS: Chiefs halfback Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi has been invited to attend the All Blacks ‘Foundation Day’ in Wellington today. North-Island based All Blacks from the Chiefs, Blues & Hurricanes are in for the day, which is aimed at laying the foundation for the All Blacks season.

    Good. I know they had Drummond in and around the squad. But really? Some much better prospects at 9 doing the rounds. T-cubed especially.

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    @tim

    They've had very defined roles for the no.6 and no.8 positions. When Kaino was 6 he was used in tight allowing Read to roam in the wider channels. Last year when Squire replaced Kaino, Read assumed the Kaino-like role closer to the breakdown, and Squire used his speed further out wide.

    So the choice of no.8 will be dependent on who plays blindside. For this reason I don't like Squire (8) and Fifita (6) because the latter is a "very loose" loose forward so Squire would need to work closer in. I don't think he is suited to that role.

    I think Hansen and co will go one of two ways:

    (i) Squire (6) and Whitelock (8) with Whitelock doing the donkey work on defence, as he does for the Highlanders
    (ii) Squire (6) and Ioane (8) with Ioane playing more like a 6 as you say. Ioane would also provide some speed and power off the scrum which Whitelock definitely doesn't.

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    @bovidae think you probably have to look at the way they defend also, Whitelock/Cane/Read are great in the narrow channels with their ability to put on a big hit or a surprise hit coming out to in. Ioane would be best suited stationed wider where he can use his upper body strength to target the ball and/or hold players up.

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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !

    Is he eligible for Wales? As far as I know his old man is a Kiwi - not sure if his parents are Welsh.

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    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    The list accorinding to Newshub:

    Players attending Wellington Foundation Day are as follows: Aumua, B. Barrett, J. Barrett, Cane, Coles, Duffie, Fifita, Harris, A. Ioane, R. Ioane, Laulala, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, Milner-Skudder, Moli, Perenara, Retallick, A. Savea, J. Savea, Tahuriorangi, Toomaga-Allen, Tu’ungafasi, Williams
    
    Chiefs first-five Damian McKenzie won't attend today's camp after suffering a head knock against the Reds on Saturday night.
    
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    No Gareth Evans. I thought he could have made it since he has a great season so far and he can cover 6,7 and 8. He will finish playing for Wales !

    Granted he's going great guns, but who are you gonna drop for him? He seems too small for 6 at international level.

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