Is Mounga the best 10 option?
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Maybe I've been drinking too much, but after watching BB the last few weeks and the Crusaders incl tonight I actually now am leaning towards a change. I know test matches are different but......
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Put BB behind a top line pack and it's a different story. Especially when you factor in Smith's passing speed. But Mounga has been playing well and I'd much rather him than DMac as our #2 pivot.
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@98blueandgold said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
Maybe I've been drinking too much, but after watching BB the last few weeks and the Crusaders incl tonight I actually now am leaning towards a change. I know test matches are different but......
Sure you've only been drinking?
Wait until the tests. If we judged many (possibly most) ABs on Super form then they would struggle to get selected.
BTW Mo'unga's not exactly world class tonight.
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@paekakboyz said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
Put BB behind a top line pack and it's a different story. Especially when you factor in Smith's passing speed. But Mounga has been playing well and I'd much rather him than DMac as our #2 pivot.
2017 says maybe not
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I don't see it happening but i would like to see 9.Smith
10. Mounga
11. Ioane
12. SBW
13. Crotty
14. Smith
15. BBBB coming in to first receiver but with Mounga doing most of the driving around of the team could be deadly. However they didn't do it last year when Sop's was there so it's not going to happen.
Dmac is a 15 only for me. Id rather Jordie at 10.
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@mariner4life still reckon 2017 BB would edge 2018 Mounga.
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@pukunui said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
I don't see it happening but i would like to see 9.Smith
10. Mounga
11. Ioane
12. SBW
13. Crotty
14. Smith
15. BBBB coming in to first receiver but with Mounga doing most of the driving around of the team could be deadly. However they didn't do it last year when Sop's was there so it's not going to happen.
Dmac is a 15 only for me. Id rather Jordie at 10.
Well you ain't seeing that in June
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@mariner4life said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
@paekakboyz said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
Put BB behind a top line pack and it's a different story. Especially when you factor in Smith's passing speed. But Mounga has been playing well and I'd much rather him than DMac as our #2 pivot.
2017 says maybe not
Interesting logic. The ABs lost 2 games. One with SBW sent off and one with Sopoanga at 10.
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Won't happen but I'd like to see:
9: Smith
10: BB
11: Ioane
12: JB
13: Goodhue
14: Naholo
15: B. Smith -
@booboo said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
@pukunui said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
I don't see it happening but i would like to see 9.Smith
10. Mounga
11. Ioane
12. SBW
13. Crotty
14. Smith
15. BBBB coming in to first receiver but with Mounga doing most of the driving around of the team could be deadly. However they didn't do it last year when Sop's was there so it's not going to happen.
Dmac is a 15 only for me. Id rather Jordie at 10.
Well you ain't seeing that in June
True, the midfield was kind of beside the point in this exercise though. Almost left it blank for that reason.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
@mariner4life said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
@paekakboyz said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
Put BB behind a top line pack and it's a different story. Especially when you factor in Smith's passing speed. But Mounga has been playing well and I'd much rather him than DMac as our #2 pivot.
2017 says maybe not
Interesting logic. The ABs lost 2 games. One with SBW sent off and one with Sopoanga at 10.
Interesting logic. Your team could win and the player will still be trash. Same goes for a player being good, even if his team loses.
Comment about BBs 2017 form is interesting, wasnt BB (surprisingly) player of the year?I do believe that RM should be on the bench ahead of DMac.
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@mimic said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
@mariner4life said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
@paekakboyz said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
Put BB behind a top line pack and it's a different story. Especially when you factor in Smith's passing speed. But Mounga has been playing well and I'd much rather him than DMac as our #2 pivot.
2017 says maybe not
Interesting logic. The ABs lost 2 games. One with SBW sent off and one with Sopoanga at 10.
Interesting logic. Your team could win and the player will still be trash. Same goes for a player being good, even if his team loses.
Comment about BBs 2017 form is interesting, wasnt BB (surprisingly) player of the year?I do believe that RM should be on the bench ahead of DMac.
The point is if he was so shit in 2017 that would have been reflected in the results. I wasn't.
And yes, he was world player of the year. For the second year in a row. But fark it, let's chuck in someone new.
It should also be noted that BB's major weakness, i.e. his kicking, has not been a problem this year. He's been knocking them over from everywhere. Pity he couldn't do that last year but it bodes well for the ABs this year.
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I'm not sure some of you guys have been watching a lot of Canes games this year. BB has been absolutely critical, without him we look utterly rudderless. Every time West has been at 10 we've struggled badly.
If it wasn't for BB sparking the backline we would have lost a lot more games with a powderpuff pack that has really struggled against a lot of teams, including the bloody Reds.
I agree he wasn't in vintage AB form in 2017, but I'm not convinced our tactics and gameplan were that crash hot either.
It's great to see Mo'unga continue his development, he's clearly second in line right now, but Beauden still offers a hell of a lot more. I just hope they have Mo'unga on the bench ahead of bloody DMac.
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@no-quarter said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
I'm not sure some of you guys have been watching a lot of Canes games this year. BB has been absolutely critical, without him we look utterly rudderless. Every time West has been at 10 we've struggled badly.
Whilst I essentially agree I'm not sure the bolded bit supports your argument.
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@canerbry said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
The point may be that maybe your 2017 World Rugby Player Of The Year is playing a bit shit, especially compared to this guy, who we recall has outplayed your 2017 World Rugby Player Of The Year several times. Yeah, fuck him, right?
Outplayed him? By that I presume you mean surfed behind a far superior pack. Let's swap those round and see how your man goes. I doubt you even watch a single game not involving the Crusaders (means you can't get your red and black gimp suit out).
I'm quite happy to have RM as back up 10, but this talk of him replacing BB is ridiculous.
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@rancid-schnitzel Just have to take any comments from these people with a grain of salt to go with the chip on the shoulder. Remember these are the type of people that started to support the Wallabies when Deans missed out on the ABs coaching job.
Mounga would probably be the no.2 10 right now, especially as Dmac hasn't really performed at test level yet. Neither has Mounga as he hasn't had a chance, but Hansen is loyal to players that do, so there's no reason Mounga couldn't jump ahead in the pecking order. The Crusaders are actually pretty impressive right now and that's also with some front liners out. -
As a Crusaders fan, I’d love to see Mo’unga playing well for the All Blacks. Our players are always better than the other lot.
But there are what, 13 or 14 tests this season? Over that time, all of BB, DMac and Mo’unga are all going to get plenty of minutes. We need all of them confident and ready to go as starters or run ons to be successful over the next couple of years.
With Cruden and Sopoaga both leaving, we lack depth and 1st 5 and need to build it for the WC. There’s a big step down after from 3rd to 4th choice. I hope we don’t have to go there.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
@canerbry said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
The point may be that maybe your 2017 World Rugby Player Of The Year is playing a bit shit, especially compared to this guy, who we recall has outplayed your 2017 World Rugby Player Of The Year several times. Yeah, fuck him, right?
Outplayed him? By that I presume you mean surfed behind a far superior pack. Let's swap those round and see how your man goes. I doubt you even watch a single game not involving the Crusaders (means you can't get your red and black gimp suit out).
I'm quite happy to have RM as back up 10, but this talk of him replacing BB is ridiculous.
This is particularly funny cos I imagine the likelihood of it being true is reasonably high.
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@machpants said in Is Mounga the best 10 option?:
Great All Black in a bit shit for his Super Rugby team shocker! This is something we've not seen before, what will the ABs coaches do?
Next there'll be news of them getting up to drunken shenanigans with teammates.
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I doubt you even watch a single game not involving the Crusaders (means you can't get your red and black gimp suit out).
