Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne
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@rembrandt said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Warning - graphic
Rumours are car has hit pedestrian, exploded and suspect shot by police with at least one other dead.
Fark! That was point blank range.
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@jegga said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@canefan said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Is the perp dead?
Fingers crossed
They haven't said so on the news. Should have shot him in the head
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Regardless of motive I hope to hell they shutdown the street tomorrow, that's just about exactly where the weekend 'Join the religion of peace' stands are set up. Could get very ugly with the local alt-right and patriot groups no doubt seething right now.
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@rembrandt said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Scratch that Trolley man is a god damn super hero
How many pricks are videoing it?
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@booboo I got no issue with that. The way the last attack was covered up and narrated away by Melbourne media makes me all for as much footage as possible.
1 confirmed dead now, 3 in hospital with stab wounds and the perp with a bullet wound to the chest.Unconfirmed reports that the car was full of LPG tanks and the bloke was yelling allahu akbar..but then again there were reports of that being yelled at the Jan '17 attack from that Greek bloke so who knows.
Regardless the real question for the media is what is really responsible:
a) Mental illness
b) Drugs
c) Toxic Masculinity
d) Australian systemic racismIt's going to be a tough night for the ABC, The Guardian and The Age to hit a consensus
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@rembrandt said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@booboo I got no issue with that. The way the last attack was covered up and narrated away by Melbourne media makes me all for as much footage as possible.
1 confirmed dead now, 3 in hospital with stab wounds and the perp with a bullet wound to the chest.Unconfirmed reports that the car was full of LPG tanks and the bloke was yelling allahu akbar..but then again there were reports of that being yelled at the Jan '17 attack from that Greek bloke so who knows.
Regardless the real question for the media is what is really responsible:
a) Mental illness
b) Drugs
c) Toxic Masculinity
d) Australian systemic racismIt's going to be a tough night for the ABC, The Guardian and The Age to hit a consensus
Don't forget that he was a lone wolf.
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Stuff are saying the twat with the knife has got his 72 raisins in the afterlife
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@jegga Did not expect that. Surely there is no wriggling out of this now for msm. Unless the focus changes to the 'real' victims. Time will tell.
4 Islamic terrorist attacks carried out in Melbourne in the last 2 years. I wonder how much more will be tolerated.
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@canefan said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@jegga said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@canefan said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Is the perp dead?
Fingers crossed
They haven't said so on the news. Should have shot him in the head
Looked like it could have been a taser to me
EDIT: just read that article. Was a real gun. Just looked really bulky
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Perp confirmed dead. How does the dailymail get info so quick?
Also pretty damn infuriating that the bloke was a known risk and had already had his passport cancelled before..wife is also apparently radicalised and missing....just awesome, looking forward to being extra careful crossing the road tomorrow.
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@rembrandt said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Perp confirmed dead. How does the dailymail get info so quick?
Usually they wait for some other outlet to write the article, then plagiarise it.
So this IS a mystery.
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@nta said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@rembrandt said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Perp confirmed dead. How does the dailymail get info so quick?
Usually they wait for some other outlet to write the article, then plagiarise it.
So this IS a mystery.
Herald Sun reported it a while ago.
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@kruse said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Did this really happen?
Top stories on BBC, as of this hour...
1 - Theresa May lays wreaths at serviceman graveyard
2 - “Bumper potato crop!”
3 - Old lady reminisces on Remembrance Days past
4 - some football club guy's funeral
Zero mention of this.BBC News site is a shocker at putting new ahead of news.
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The authorities and media are going to have an extra layer of bullshit to trowel in, turns out the stabby twat was Somalian .
As we all know there totally isn’t an issue with African gangs behaving like fluffybunnies in Melbourne. -
@rembrandt said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@booboo I got no issue with that.
Don't have a problem. It's good. Covers the cops arses as well. Just amazing how they swarmed like Japanese tourists.
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@jegga said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
The authorities and media are going to have an extra layer of bullshit to trowel in, turns out the stabby twat was Somalian .
As we all know there totally isn’t an issue with African gangs behaving like fluffybunnies in Melbourne.Someone should have told him he can't run around behaving like an extra from Blackhawk Down
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@canefan said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@jegga said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
The authorities and media are going to have an extra layer of bullshit to trowel in, turns out the stabby twat was Somalian .
As we all know there totally isn’t an issue with African gangs behaving like fluffybunnies in Melbourne.Someone should have told him he can't run around behaving like an extra from Blackhawk Down
What a confusing world we live in. Who's to know whether we can act up to stereotypes or not?
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@act-crusader said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@nta said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
@rembrandt said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Perp confirmed dead. How does the dailymail get info so quick?
Usually they wait for some other outlet to write the article, then plagiarise it.
So this IS a mystery.
Herald Sun reported it a while ago.
There's your source, then
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People that are mentally unstable are more susceptible to acting out the fundamental teachings of Islam, which is why it's usually pretty easy to dig up stuff from these attackers past and then write it off as a nutcase that has nothing to do with Islam.
Which of course ignores the ideology behind the attack, the leaders of ISIS targeting people like this to do their dirty work, and the hate preachers from places like Saudi Arabia that often speak at Mosques encouraging people to follow their Wahabbi version of Islam and the salafi movement that calls for the killing of infidels, or non-believers.
Islam has a serious problem with extremists, there is a sizeable minority of Muslims around the world that follow these fundamental teachings, but hey we'd better not call that out and be critical lest we be branded a bigot or a racist.
It's difficult to have a meaningful discussion on this as you generally get caught between people claiming it has nothing to do with Islam (wrong) and people attacking all Muslims (wrong).
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@booboo similarly, the authorities involved aren't mincing words:
The Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews, has told a press conference he’s confident the police have the powers they need to keep Melbourne safe following Friday’s Bourke Street attack.
Asked about bollards or other infrastructure changes in the city, Andrews said he was not aware of additional things that could be done but would keep an open mind.
“I want to point out that what we saw yesterday was an act of terror,” he said, describing it as “pure evil”.
Andrews said he had congratulated Scott Morrison for his comments earlier today condemning “radical, violent extremist Islam that opposes our very way of life”.Also in that link
- Police are treating the attack as a terrorist incident. Shire Ali was known to counter-terrorism authorities at state and national level.
- Shire Ali’s passport had been cancelled in 2015 when Asio assessed he had intentions to travel to Syria to fight with Islamic State extremists.
- Police have spoken with Shire Ali’s wife.
- Authorities were not actively monitoring him before the incident.
- Joint counter-terrorism investigators were raiding two addresses in Werribee and Meadows Heights on Saturday morning.
- Shire Ali had a history of minor drug, theft and driving offences. He had migrated from Somalia to Australia in the 1990s, police said.
- Shire Ali drove a 4x4 laden with gas cylinders. Witnesses said the man drove the vehicle outside the Target centre about 4.20pm. As the car went up in flames, he attempted to stab people and fought with police and bystanders.
- The police officer who shot the man in the chest, had been out of the police academy for three months.
- Islamic State has claimed the attack, and police say Shire Ali had links to Isis
- The police presence in the city and at major events such as the Flemington races and remembrance day services has been stepped up.
I feel a bit sorry for the poor bastard who pulled the trigger - 3 months out of the academy, done everything that you could to talk the clown out of it, then have to pull the trigger anyway.
I'd disagree with anyone saying "what about a tazer in these cases?". In fact, I reckon for knife attacks, police should have Claymores.
"That's not a knife, mate"
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Out of interest I attended the vigil organised by the ALA tonight. About 200 in attendence, surprised at just how many 'non-whites'were in attendence, maybe 35%. The irony having a dozen exclusively white protesters across the road calling us all racists. Outside of the university contingent it seems to have bought people together from different backgrounds. ALA is Australia's anti-Islam party, a case could definitely be made that they're exploiting a tragedy but then again this is exactly what they have been warning about for years. Their key points were if you don't believe Islam is the cause of this just read the Qu'ran and that there is no such thing as moderate Islam Agree with the first point not so much the second.
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@rembrandt said in Breaking Potential terror attack Melbourne:
Out of interest I attended the vigil organised by the ALA tonight. About 200 in attendence, surprised at just how many 'non-whites'were in attendence, maybe 35%. The irony having a dozen exclusively white protesters across the road calling us all racists. Outside of the university contingent it seems to have bought people together from different backgrounds. ALA is Australia's anti-Islam party, a case could definitely be made that they're exploiting a tragedy but then again this is exactly what they have been warning about for years. Their key points were if you don't believe Islam is the cause of this just read the Qu'ran and that there is no such thing as moderate Islam Agree with the first point not so much the second.
Sorry: ALA?