RIP 2019
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I lost a mate three weeks ago, while we were all working on our beer bellies this crazy bastard was climbing the Matterhorn, details are sketchy but he fell nearly a kilometer. Funeral is tomorrow, the delay apparently due to where the body was and having to wait for dental records etc to identify formally.
As tragic and horrific that is it still pales in comparison to losing someone from suicide, at least with an accident you can kind of put the whole thing in a box you know? No one really you could look to blame, act of god, just one of those things, nothing you could do, went out like a frucken champ. But suicide, man that is just questions upon questions, could we have done more? Could I have seen it coming? It's messed up, that's pain that just keeps on going. Best thing I've read on suicide was on that Blokes Advice page, killing yourself doesn't end the pain, it just passes it on to the people you most care about. Another good quote related to that is 'Don't be so sure that your life is actually yours to end'.
I've said this a few times but if anyone wants to get on to the Blokes Advice group hit me up via pm, it's without doubt the best thing I've seen to help counter this epidemic every day you hear from other guys on the edge and then hundreds of brothers lending kinds words, an ear to listen to or even jumping in their car to pay a visit to help out. Incidentally the bloke with the crate over that terrorist a few days back, he's a BA member.
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A couple of the speeches were his mates pleading with the people at the funeral to just pick up the phone if they ever feel like theres no hope.
Why? What is the problem with suicide? If you don't want to go on with life, then don't.
I understand that it leaves a mess behind for the living, but if I decide to end it tomorrow surely that is my choice?
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@jegga it's sad to see the devastation they leave behind. A lot of the time loved ones find them, how the hell do you get past finding something like that?
Hearing some stories from those that knew the deceased, a thread I have heard a number of times for elderley people who suicide is how happy they looked in their last few days or hours before they killed themselves. It's almost as though they had made the decision and a great weight came off their shoulders. In circumstances like that I often think of the prison guard in The Green Mile when he is old and has out-lived those around him. He said something along the lines of "I haven't lived longer, it's just taken me longer to die."
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A couple of the speeches were his mates pleading with the people at the funeral to just pick up the phone if they ever feel like theres no hope.
Why? What is the problem with suicide? If you don't want to go on with life, then don't.
I understand that it leaves a mess behind for the living, but if I decide to end it tomorrow surely that is my choice?
Well I hope you dont decide to end it tomorrow
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@jegga what @Paekakboyz said
Cheers, is anyone else noticing in their extended circle that this seems to be happening amongst middle aged men more often these days?
Yeah had a good mate check out last year - was definitely an out there tale that came out of it. If you're in the same country/town as all your mates, be thankful fella. It's tough going through it on the other side of the world eh.
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A couple of the speeches were his mates pleading with the people at the funeral to just pick up the phone if they ever feel like theres no hope.
Why? What is the problem with suicide? If you don't want to go on with life, then don't.
I understand that it leaves a mess behind for the living, but if I decide to end it tomorrow surely that is my choice?
Because it can be a temporary feeling/impulse caused by mental illness. If you can help people through that period they can still have a happy and long life.
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A couple of the speeches were his mates pleading with the people at the funeral to just pick up the phone if they ever feel like theres no hope.
Why? What is the problem with suicide? If you don't want to go on with life, then don't.
I understand that it leaves a mess behind for the living, but if I decide to end it tomorrow surely that is my choice?
Because it can be a temporary feeling/impulse caused by mental illness. If you can help people through that period they can still have a happy and long life.
I guess it is the stigma attached to it that I have an issue with. Possibly because of religious connotations in the past.
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@Snowy Yeah, that's a slightly different issue. For example, if you have a terminal illness/are in permanent physical pain and want to end your life early and with dignity I have no problem with that at all.
My impression is that the majority of sucide is not in that catefory.
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R.I.P. Franco
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About 30 years too late but still pleasing
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12265617
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Jimmy Johnson of F.A.M.E and Muscle Shoals studios. Guitarist for the “Swampers”, played on hits for Aretha, Wilson Picket ....many others and engineer on Wild Horses and Brown Sugar for the Rolling Stones.
Some of the best don’t get their names in lights but at least his contribution to modern music is well recognised.