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    @sparky said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Subjective, I know. Nonu's best 12 I've seen. Horan the next best. Daylight after that to any else. Warrick Taylor or Scott Gibbs or Will Greenwood perhaps?

    No love for Walter Little?

    Tough crowd.

    P.S.

    @sparky said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Not buying that 100% either

    Way to miss the fucking point 🤦

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    @sparky said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @NTA

    Not buying that 100% either. Australian pack was solid throughout the Dwyer and MacQueen eras. Horan was excellent, but supported by hard work of John Eales, Tim Gavin, Tony Daly, Phil Kearns, Ewan McKenzie, Willie Ofahengaue and co.

    Subjective, I know. Nonu's best 12 I've seen. Horan the next best. Daylight after that to any else. Warrick Taylor or Scott Gibbs or Will Greenwood perhaps? Bert Cooke was apparently one heck of a player but I doubt there is anyone alive who can compare him with the modern 12s.

    Did you ever watch Charlie Ngatai????

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    @MajorRage he doesnt count, unfair on everyone else.

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    @SammyC said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Best game I’ve seen Akira play I reckon.. he’s becoming the big bully that the all blacks could use in their loose trio.

    Hope the blues waste the chiefs next weekend.

    Could do with his physicality against the NH packs IMO .

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    @Machpants i've never ever seen Akira penalised for his niggle. So who cares?

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    @Kirwan said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    King Akira! Running hard.

    Did he knock it on?

    Good to see him for once build up a head of steam before collecting.

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    @NTA said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @Tim said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Think that game showed the importance of Gibson's leadership. We really seemed to go off the boil when he went off the field.

    Replaced your 10 about the same time for an HIA, yes? Bit of disruption there, plus you didn't have the ball for a lot of minutes 20-40.

    Think the balance of our loosies suffered with DP and TR as no genuine 7.

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    @nzzp said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Well, hell yeah. We won, and we ground it out. Really stoked with this; this was winning ugly. Bunch of top of head thoughts below

    Blake Gibson very influential; when we went off, it all fell apart. At 17-0 after 17, we were on track for a cricket score.

    I really don't see the negativity for Otere on here either - he's a decent kicker, has god length on his punts, and has kept the team structure. Not setting the world on fire, but not disasterous at all either.

    Ma'a I spoke about above. Great at this level, but he's showing age. Wonderful to have him though

    Both Ioane's seemed subdued tonight. Maybe the minutes catching up?

    Ruru can't box kick to save his life. it was terrible. Our exits were abysmal all night, and we have to work on it.

    Set piece marginally OK. Better than last week.

    Forwards generally - take a bow fellas I reckon you stepped up and won that for us, particularly at the end. That three minutes seemed way to long to try and run the clock, but by god you got there. Well bloody done. I wouldn't have been that brave - would have put it down in the corner and taken our chances.

    Ref was a mixed bag of good adn 'interesting'. Some of the people picking up balls where counter rucks have happened ... or 'in from the side ignored'. Well, most weeks that shit happens.

    We're building nicely. Patches of good play starting to extend, and linking a few wins together. Last week was special against a very good pack, this week was bloody gritty resilient stubbornness. Haven't seen that out on Eden Park for the Blues for as long as I can remember.

    If we don't sort our lineout we are really going to struggle against top teams. Is Scrafton our best lineout 5?

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    @nzzp said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Edit: I'm a massive fan, but wouldn't have him in the AB squad. Reckon he'd get torn apart at the top level.

    How about training squad -- Laumape could learn a lot?!

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    @NTA said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @sparky said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Their young players must be learning so much from playing with perhaps the greatest ever 12 to play the game.

    Tim Horan retired years ago

    😉

    Two best of professional era.

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    @NTA said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @No-Quarter said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @NTA said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @sparky said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Their young players must be learning so much from playing with perhaps the greatest ever 12 to play the game.

    Tim Horan retired years ago

    😉

    It's a shame we never got to watch Nonu trample all over Horan.

    Or trip over himself as Horan skinned him inside and then outside.

    Was in same lift as Timmy before 3rd Lions test. Quite a small fella now. Loved it when after his almost terminal knee injury Oz played him everywhere but 12 for a long time. Just superb in RWC semi against Boks.

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    @NTA said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    I will always remember that semifinal game against the Boks in 99 where he played a MOTM performance from his sickbed.

    I was there. Me, too. He and Nonu are unchallenged as two best since 1987.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @Nepia said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @SammyC said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Best game I’ve seen Akira play I reckon.. he’s becoming the big bully that the all blacks could use in their loose trio.

    Hope the blues waste the chiefs next weekend.

    Hmmm. He was better in his last game - TBF that was probably one of his quieter matches (while still being influential).

    @Machpants said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @SammyC then right at the end he had to slap some body for no reason after they'd got the penalty and big up to the crowd. He's like itoje. Not sure what the and coaches will think of that cos they notice

    They put up with Franks' thuggishness so not sure that would hinder Akira.

    He’s a good Christian is Owen

    As is St. Owen of Farrell.

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    @pakman said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    As is St. Owen of Farrell.

    Patron Saint of Shoulders.

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    Geez pretty harsh people knocking Nonu's pace for the try. Those were no slouches chasing him and they didn't even get within diving distance, they certainly didn't look to be gaining on him very quick if at all.

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    @Bones said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    Geez pretty harsh people knocking Nonu's pace for the try. Those were no slouches chasing him and they didn't even get within diving distance, they certainly didn't look to be gaining on him very quick if at all.

    Didn't have much of a head start, tho he was at full pace while the others had to turn.

    Though I'll qualify all that by reminding you that he's still probably faster than most Aussie backs (because we have zero gas men).

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    @NTA Foley doesn't lack for pace, who was the 23?

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    @Bones said in Blues vs Waratahs:

    @NTA Foley doesn't lack for pace, who was the 23?

    Lalakai Foketi.

    Foley was well behind Nonu to start with.

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    @NTA yeah but he's quick over a short distance and didn't appear to be making any considerable gains.

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    @Bones At 12 pace much less of an issue than at 13, although Maori Jesus showed true pace at 12 (which is rare) can be big weapon.

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