Blues 2020





  • @Bovidae Mafileo looked like he took a knock on the weekend.



  • @KiwiMurph Walsh is a LH so would not be a like-for-like replacement. Renata might make the 23 this week.



  • Southland even though they finished bottom of the table in the 2019 Mitre 10 Cup had the 3rd best scrum in the competition, can remember them dealing to the Auckland scrum on Eden Park , they were well beaten on the scoreboard,but their scrum not only on that particular day, but against much more vaunted opposition during the season dealt to many other packs at set piece scrum time ..
    I think it’s refreshing that someone has obviously taken notice of Joe Walsh’s form on the loose head side of the scrum regardless of the team he is playing for.



  • @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2020:

    I think it’s refreshing that someone has obviously taken notice of Joe Walsh’s form on the loose head side of the scrum regardless of the team he is playing for.

    Walsh was part of a dominant University scrum in Waikato club rugby with Faiva and Moli before moving south. He wouldn't have had the same opportunities if he remained in the Waikato with other props ahead of him.



  • @Bovidae That was a astar studded University team!

    If i recall correctly there were concerns around his work ethic/ conditioning when he was in the Waikato, the change of scenery has clearly worked well for him.



  • @OleOleOle Yeah, IIRC Randle was the coach then. I went to the final when they lost to Marist. Koloamatangi was part of their propping rotation as well.





  • @Dolamite

    All Black first five Beauden Barrett is set to make his debut for the Blues in a month's time against the South African side the Lions in Auckland.
    

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/409359/blues-ready-beauden-for-the-lions



  • @KiwiMurph Booooooooooooooooooo

    If he came back a week earlier it would have been a marketers dream.



  • @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    @Dolamite

    All Black first five Beauden Barrett is set to make his debut for the Blues in a month's time against the South African side the Lions in Auckland.
    

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/409359/blues-ready-beauden-for-the-lions

    The Blues then went on to say that Coventry had made a mistake. So not round 7.. probably the original date of round 11

    Or Coventry spoiled the surprise

    It'll be interesting to see where he plays those 2 club games. I assume he'll be added to an Auckland club temporarily



  • @Canes4life yea is odd, original date looked like v Jags, but makes sense for it to be at EP from a marketing POV rather than Whangarei, but yes, even more so v the canes.



  • @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

    @Canes4life yea is odd, original date looked like v Jags, but makes sense for it to be at EP from a marketing POV rather than Whangarei, but yes, even more so v the canes.

    that Canes game is the away game though (week before Lions). So doesn't really help Blues much (marketing wise)



  • @KiwiMurph oh is it, thought it was at EP.



  • @KiwiMurph same, thought it was the home game.



  • from the link:

    coming back for the end of the season to come up to speed for the ABs in July.
    then coming back in May 2021.

    so, if we get to the playoffs we'll have him around to swoop in and take the glory. It feels ..... .... .. . . weird?

    However, Barrett will likely miss the majority of the 2020 Super Rugby season, with NZME reporting the 28-year-old will be taking both a non-playing and playing sabbatical as part of his contract extension to stay in New Zealand.

    Barrett will take a break from rugby and make himself available for the last few weeks of the Super Rugby season to get up to speed ahead of the July and Rugby Championship tests, before then joining a Japanese club at the end of the year, where he will be based until May 2021.

    https://www.georgefm.co.nz/home/culture/news/2019/07/beauden-barrett-set-to-join-blues-on-four-year-deal.html



  • Is it time for Beauden Barrett to go back to work?

    Marc Hinton: I suspect so. The fact that he's back around the Blues suggests his feet are getting itchy. He's been slated for an April debut, but maybe that comes forward if he can speed up his return protocols. The Blues certainly need him. And a little bird tells me he has already canned one of his bucket-list events to prioritise his rugby. Sooner the better, so long as he's happy.



  • @Tim if that's true, then that's both amazing and awesome. Players want to play!



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    If the Blues didn't have the green blob. Stolen from FB.



  • @Yeetyaah said in Blues 2020:

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    If the Blues didn't have the green blob. Stolen from FB.

    That's the only way the blues are going to get anywhere, cloned beaudy!



  • South African tour squad named.

    Otere and Rieko included.

    Akira not included as an extra was required with Goodhue out.

    https://blues.rugby/two-key-players-off-injury-list-for-south-africa-tour/

    The travelling squad is:
    
    Forwards: James Parsons, Kurt Eklund, Marcel Renata, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Sione Mafileo, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jacob Pierce, Aaron Carroll, Tom Robinson, Dalton Papalii, Blake Gibson, Tony Lamborn, Hoskins Sotutu.
    
    Backs: Jonathan Ruru, Sam Nock, Stephen Perofeta, Otere Black, Harry Plummer, TJ Faiane, Joe Marchant, Rieko Ioane, Mark Telea, Jordan Hyland, Emoni Narawa, Matt Duffie.
    


  • @KiwiMurph Who is the 8 cover in case Sotutu goes down with injury? Papali'i?



  • @Stargazer he'd be the first option i'd say yep.



  • @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    Akira not included

    It's a very long way back from here. So frustrating as he's potentially a generational talent. We have to have our systems and processes in place to head this sort of thing off early, and get the best out of our players. It takes a while to get there, but he's showing why it's so important.

    /shakes head.



  • @nzzp said in Blues 2020:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    Akira not included

    It's a very long way back from here. So frustrating as he's potentially a generational talent. We have to have our systems and processes in place to head this sort of thing off early, and get the best out of our players. It takes a while to get there, but he's showing why it's so important.

    /shakes head.

    This might actually be beneficial for him in that I assume they're working at getting his fitness up and in contrast with the last two years Rangi isn't going to work him to death. If the Blues are around at the business end this year they could have him at peak fitness.



  • @nzzp

    Or the Blues have decided to give him a long off season after playing him into the ground last year. In the Chiefs match he didn't even strip so he would not have taken the field if someone rolled an ankle 5mins before kickoff.
    Remember the TSFers that watched the warmup matches said his fitness was good and he played well.



  • @Nepia said in Blues 2020:

    @nzzp said in Blues 2020:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    Akira not included

    It's a very long way back from here. So frustrating as he's potentially a generational talent. We have to have our systems and processes in place to head this sort of thing off early, and get the best out of our players. It takes a while to get there, but he's showing why it's so important.

    /shakes head.

    This might actually be beneficial for him in that I assume they're working at getting his fitness up and in contrast with the last two years Rangi isn't going to work him to death. If the Blues are around at the business end this year they could have him at peak fitness.

    I think you are right. He's played the most minutes for us for about three years in a row, got played into the ground by Tana (even when he had options) and he's never recovered. From all accounts he was looking fit and in form in pre-season (despite all the bitchy fat comments he gets on here).

    Perhaps they are giving him a break to get the best out of him later in the season. They have to avoid doing the same grind to Sotutu (or Dalton) so he's going to get an opportunity.

    Be interesting to see a backrow of Dalton, Akira and Sotutu. Get our best players all out there at the same time.



  • Who will call the lineouts?

    I see MacDonald confirmed that Goodhue is the regular caller (which would explain why he plays so often regardless of form)
    Clearly the calling went to shite after his injury last week

    Maybe Robinson?

    I wonder if they'll move him to 6 this week too to add more options



  • @Kirwan said in Blues 2020:

    Be interesting to see a backrow of Dalton, Akira and Sotutu. Get our best players all out there at the same time.

    I think Sotutu will suffer from what Tom Robinson did last year - lots of minutes is really tough for a first year talent. Takes time for the body and mind to get used to the level of effort.

    If they are managing workload, then a break for Hoskins and bringing on a fired up Akira would be great in a few weeks time.



  • @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    I see MacDonald confirmed that Goodhue is the regular caller (which would explain why he plays so often regardless of form)

    yeah the Northland lineout always functioned better when he is there.





  • @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    I see MacDonald confirmed that Goodhue is the regular caller (which would explain why he plays so often regardless of form)

    yeah the Northland lineout always functioned better when he is there.

    Can someone taller than me explain why calling lineouts is considered a specialist skill?



  • @antipodean said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    I see MacDonald confirmed that Goodhue is the regular caller (which would explain why he plays so often regardless of form)

    yeah the Northland lineout always functioned better when he is there.

    Can someone taller than me explain why calling lineouts is considered a specialist skill?

    because they are complicated, and require different things at different times. Not all lineout ball is the same. You need to make decisions based on game situation, field position, defensive alignment, what you have thrown at them before, where your mismatches are, where your hooker is strong, or if it's going bad, where you can just win the ball. And that needs a clear head even when tired. If you don't normally do it, it's really hard to just pick up. No matter how many lineouts you have been in, if you don't usually call, it's suddenly really hard when that is on your shoulders.

    As with all aspects of rugby, it's probably different at the pro level, but in park footy, a good lineout caller can take the opposition lineout out of the game in the first half.

    There is a shit load more to it than walking up and yelling 2! 4! or deciding to maul



  • @mariner4life said in Blues 2020:

    @antipodean said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    I see MacDonald confirmed that Goodhue is the regular caller (which would explain why he plays so often regardless of form)

    yeah the Northland lineout always functioned better when he is there.

    Can someone taller than me explain why calling lineouts is considered a specialist skill?

    because they are complicated, and require different things at different times. Not all lineout ball is the same. You need to make decisions based on game situation, field position, defensive alignment, what you have thrown at them before, where your mismatches are, where your hooker is strong, or if it's going bad, where you can just win the ball. And that needs a clear head even when tired. If you don't normally do it, it's really hard to just pick up. No matter how many lineouts you have been in, if you don't usually call, it's suddenly really hard when that is on your shoulders.

    As with all aspects of rugby, it's probably different at the pro level, but in park footy, a good lineout caller can take the opposition lineout out of the game in the first half.

    There is a shit load more to it than walking up and yelling 2! 4! or deciding to maul

    Perhaps it would be better to get someone with an intellect to make the call then, like a back.



  • @antipodean said in Blues 2020:

    @mariner4life said in Blues 2020:

    @antipodean said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    I see MacDonald confirmed that Goodhue is the regular caller (which would explain why he plays so often regardless of form)

    yeah the Northland lineout always functioned better when he is there.

    Can someone taller than me explain why calling lineouts is considered a specialist skill?

    because they are complicated, and require different things at different times. Not all lineout ball is the same. You need to make decisions based on game situation, field position, defensive alignment, what you have thrown at them before, where your mismatches are, where your hooker is strong, or if it's going bad, where you can just win the ball. And that needs a clear head even when tired. If you don't normally do it, it's really hard to just pick up. No matter how many lineouts you have been in, if you don't usually call, it's suddenly really hard when that is on your shoulders.

    As with all aspects of rugby, it's probably different at the pro level, but in park footy, a good lineout caller can take the opposition lineout out of the game in the first half.

    There is a shit load more to it than walking up and yelling 2! 4! or deciding to maul

    Perhaps it would be better to get someone with an intellect to make the call then, like a back.

    that sentence doesn't make sense.



  • @mariner4life said in Blues 2020:

    @antipodean said in Blues 2020:

    @mariner4life said in Blues 2020:

    @antipodean said in Blues 2020:

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    I see MacDonald confirmed that Goodhue is the regular caller (which would explain why he plays so often regardless of form)

    yeah the Northland lineout always functioned better when he is there.

    Can someone taller than me explain why calling lineouts is considered a specialist skill?

    because they are complicated, and require different things at different times. Not all lineout ball is the same. You need to make decisions based on game situation, field position, defensive alignment, what you have thrown at them before, where your mismatches are, where your hooker is strong, or if it's going bad, where you can just win the ball. And that needs a clear head even when tired. If you don't normally do it, it's really hard to just pick up. No matter how many lineouts you have been in, if you don't usually call, it's suddenly really hard when that is on your shoulders.

    As with all aspects of rugby, it's probably different at the pro level, but in park footy, a good lineout caller can take the opposition lineout out of the game in the first half.

    There is a shit load more to it than walking up and yelling 2! 4! or deciding to maul

    Perhaps it would be better to get someone with an intellect to make the call then, like a back.

    that sentence doesn't make sense.

    Because you're a forward.

    How does a team not know their hooker can't throw to the back etc.?



  • The Blues A Team will be coached by Auckland Mitre 10 Cup Coach Alama Ieremia. He will be supported by Blues Scrum Coach Ben Afeaki with Paul Gianotti to manage, and Harley Matthews will provide physio support for both sides

    https://blues.rugby/blues-development-team-schedules-released/





  • @Tim fantastic stats for Hoskins..these are the sort of stats I think we all wanted to see from Akira..physically he ticks so many boxes, I really do hope he can find an attitude shift , seems like such a waste ..I do wonder if it’s time for Akira to move out of Auckland .



  • @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2020:

    these are the sort of stats I think we all wanted to see from Akira..

    Akira was top 3 in plenty of stats in previous seasons.

    I think Akira is not playing for the same reason Robinson is not starting.


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