2019 Tour de France
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Time for what is just about my favourite sporting event of the year. I'm not writing a preview because i know fuck all, here is The Secret Pro's, it actually know what it is talking about
https://cyclingtips.com/2019/06/the-secret-pros-guide-to-the-2019-tour-de-france/
Interesting that 3 of last year's top 4 are not even at the start line, and it seems widely accepted that the defending champ isn't in the right frame of mind.
One short individual TT changes the whole race as well.
Best visuals, best coverage, great drama. Love it all, can't wait. i just hope I'm not watch the team-formally-known-as-Sky train like i did the last few years. Booooring. Have a crack you skinny fucks.
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Different race this year. Froome injured. Might actually be interesting this time.
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@mariner4life said in 2019 Tour de France:
Best visuals, best coverage
Fuck, yes.
Those helicopter flyovers of the French countryside are perfect for a freezing winter evening at home. I point to the TV and say to Mrs TA: "See that? We're going full campervan around Europe before we're too fucking old! Kids? Why the fuck would I want those cock-blockers along?"
(Side note: The Boy is now 15 and his school is offering assistance for a trip to Europe next year as part of their art/drama/music curriculum. Little shit isn't interested... both his parents are... ungrateful little dick just wants to sit on the couch playing Dragonball Z)
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@NTA said in 2019 Tour de France:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Tour de France:
Best visuals, best coverage
Fuck, yes.
Those helicopter flyovers of the French countryside are perfect for a freezing winter evening at home. I point to the TV and say to Mrs TA: "See that? We're going full campervan around Europe before we're too fucking old! Kids? Why the fuck would I want those cock-blockers along?"
Wisest words ever on here, can't wait to the youngest is gone, and we're off
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@NTA said in 2019 Tour de France:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Tour de France:
Best visuals, best coverage
Fuck, yes.
Those helicopter flyovers of the French countryside are perfect for a freezing winter evening at home. I point to the TV and say to Mrs TA: "See that? We're going full campervan around Europe before we're too fucking old! Kids? Why the fuck would I want those cock-blockers along?"
(Side note: The Boy is now 15 and his school is offering assistance for a trip to Europe next year as part of their art/drama/music curriculum. Little shit isn't interested... both his parents are... ungrateful little dick just wants to sit on the couch playing Dragonball Z)
And here we see Chateau de bler bler, built in 1586 "insert interesting anecdote here while we gaze at some amazing building with an unreal view up a picturesque French valley". Fuck it's great TV
Mrs Mariner is all over the TdF campervan tour idea as well. It's a pretty fucking easy sell, given the 3-week marketing program it gets every year.
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@mariner4life any kiwis in it?
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@Hooroo said in 2019 Tour de France:
@mariner4life any kiwis in it?
i assume so, but my app hasn't updated Teams and Riders yet, so i can't tell you
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@Hooroo said in 2019 Tour de France:
@mariner4life any kiwis in it?
CCC TEam: Patrick Bevin
Team Jumbo-Visma: George Bennett -
@Stargazer said in 2019 Tour de France:
@Hooroo said in 2019 Tour de France:
@mariner4life any kiwis in it?
CCC TEam: Patrick Bevin
Team Jumbo-Visma: George BennettTom Scully might make EDF - can't see that team anywhere.. Sam Bewley was 9th choice for M-S so missed out due to riders being reduced to 8. Jack Bauer did the Giro so doesn't sound like he was considered.
I can feel it in my cockles that Paddy Bevin is gonna go close to a victory this year! only thing that's gonna screw him is that everyone knows who he is and his turn of speed after he blasted Sagan at TDU this year..
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@WillieTheWaiter I think you mean Team EF (Education First)? He belongs to that team but he's not on the start list.
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@NTA said in 2019 Tour de France:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Tour de France:
Best visuals, best coverage
Fuck, yes.
Those helicopter flyovers of the French countryside are perfect for a freezing winter evening at home. I point to the TV and say to Mrs TA: "See that? We're going full campervan around Europe before we're too fucking old! Kids? Why the fuck would I want those cock-blockers along?"
(Side note: The Boy is now 15 and his school is offering assistance for a trip to Europe next year as part of their art/drama/music curriculum. Little shit isn't interested... both his parents are... ungrateful little dick just wants to sit on the couch playing Dragonball Z)
Bad parenting.
I’ve met Mrs NTA she’s lovely.
The blame is squarely on you.
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@Stargazer said in 2019 Tour de France:
@WillieTheWaiter I think you mean Team EF (Education First)? He belongs to that team but he's not on the start list.
only 6 guys there - might make the cut!
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@WillieTheWaiter said in 2019 Tour de France:
@Stargazer said in 2019 Tour de France:
@WillieTheWaiter I think you mean Team EF (Education First)? He belongs to that team but he's not on the start list.
only 6 guys there - might make the cut!
Scully in.
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@WillieTheWaiter Yep, the list has now been updated! Three Kiwis now!
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@scribe said in 2019 Tour de France:
And no Cav. I think he’s done his dash now. Dimension Data have gone with a sprinter, a half in form and fit Cavendish would wipe the floor with 99 / 100 times.
Still, 30 TdF stage wins is not to be sniffed at.
the annual 2.4 million quid paycheck would soften the blow a bit...
but yeh bit of a shame he didn't come back for one last decent nudge. I always thought he was a bit of a twat but then read his book and he actually came across alright.
most interesting bit was that all the 'testing' he'd ever done suggested that he shouldn't even be a decent amateur.. yet look at his results!
wonder if he'll have a crack at the olympics next year -
Nailing my colours to a mast. I'll be following Greg van Avermaert and the CCC team because they ride Giants and have a kiwi.
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@SynicBast said in 2019 Tour de France:
I'll be following Jumbo because George is effectively second in line for GC if the number 1 goes down and is considered to still be a top 10 GC prospect and this tour is one where climbers like him will shine
Not this time, apparently.
George is one of the few that didn't finish the first stage with the peleton - four minutes down and already out of contention (I haven't seen or read anything that he crashed, so assuming losing time on purpose). That bodes well that if Kruiswijk doesn't do well, George will get a chance somewhere to ride for a stage win.
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@Chris-B said in 2019 Tour de France:
@SynicBast said in 2019 Tour de France:
I'll be following Jumbo because George is effectively second in line for GC if the number 1 goes down and is considered to still be a top 10 GC prospect and this tour is one where climbers like him will shine
Not this time, apparently.
George is one of the few that didn't finish the first stage with the peleton - four minutes down and already out of contention (I haven't seen or read anything that he crashed, so assuming losing time on purpose). That bodes well that if Kruiswijk doesn't do well, George will get a chance somewhere to ride for a stage win.
Edit: and with a bit more research, I see that he's been credited just 10 seconds down, so he must have been involved in the same crash inside 2kms of the finish that took down Groenwagen and others.
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@Chris-B said in 2019 Tour de France:
@Chris-B said in 2019 Tour de France:
@SynicBast said in 2019 Tour de France:
I'll be following Jumbo because George is effectively second in line for GC if the number 1 goes down and is considered to still be a top 10 GC prospect and this tour is one where climbers like him will shine
Not this time, apparently.
George is one of the few that didn't finish the first stage with the peleton - four minutes down and already out of contention (I haven't seen or read anything that he crashed, so assuming losing time on purpose). That bodes well that if Kruiswijk doesn't do well, George will get a chance somewhere to ride for a stage win.
Edit: and with a bit more research, I see that he's been credited just 10 seconds down, so he must have been involved in the same crash inside 2kms of the finish that took down Groenwagen and others.
Yep they were together when it happened
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Massive performance by TJV to set the next three weeks up for Kruiswijk and Bennett to take advantage of. They had to tow George for most of that. Being a little 58kg weed isn’t much help in a TT.
Going into Stage 3 with 20 seconds on Ineos is an excellent position to be in. Only trouble is that they are expected to lead now.
Mention for Paddy Bevan as well. His CCC team are only 10 secs behind the Ineos boys as well. -
my god that team must be fizzing at the mo..
obviously good mood in the camp - saw they were taking the pi$$ outta GB by saying they were only starting with 7 riders as he couldn't do sh*t.. anyway he was fine - his TT has improved heaps he was pulling through
they lost a rider within the first 10km which makes it even more impressive
and my god how sexy is that Bianchi tt bike. my wife doesn't understand.. but i feel comfortable expressing these opinions with some random blokes on the interwebs ha
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@WillieTheWaiter the Bianchi's they are riding today are pretty sweet too. I love that colour.
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TJV give up the yellow straight away.
Not quite sure why a rider of Aliphillipe's quality was allowed to make a break near the end of the stage unless TJV decided to let him.Aliphillippe leading, Van Aert at 20 secs, Kruijswijk at 25 (so is George)
Bevan had a crash today and is well down (not even sure if he finished tbh)
Edit: Results up now and Bevan dropped about 14 minutes. Silver lining is that if he recovers and waits for the right stage now he could have a crack at a stage win without the peleton worrying about him.
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Something of note will definitely happen tonight!
There's several scenarios under which George could end up wearing (more) yellow tomorrow - depending on how TJV decide to use him.
Most likely one is if they use him to try to pull some Ineos teeth and Ineos don't bite. Though if I were TVS, I'd be reasonably conservative and hope to use him just to pace Kruiswijk to the finish line.
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Should be a fun stage.
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Paddy Bevan out with a couple of fractured ribs
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I think TJV will be a bit disappointed in Kruiswijk on that climb - he lost 35 seconds to Thomas.
I've only watched the highlights package and didn't catch what George did when the big attacks happened - whether he waited a bit for Kruiswijk or couldn't really respond.
Not that it matters too much in the greater scheme of things, at present. TdF finishes with three brutal mountain stages, so no-one is going to have it safely won until all of those are over.
Interestingly only one individual TT this year and a somewhat hilly course - as well as being sandwiched between two mountain stages - so that might suit George a bit.
A series of flat and hilly stages over the next few nights - next mountain stage is Stage 12.
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@Chris-B said in 2019 Tour de France:
I've only watched the highlights package and didn't catch what George did when the big attacks happened - whether he waited a bit for Kruiswijk or couldn't really respond.
That final km doesn't allow waiting for teammates or even shepherding - if your team mate can't keep up so be it - once you slow down you're cooked on that climb - 20% then 14% then a final 24% and a 90° lefthander as well - devil take the hind most...
Still debating whether I stay up for tonight's stage - I know I won't be doing so for the ITT - gawd I hate that type of cycling event - what worries me are Team Hypocrit Dopage taking over the tour again because Movistar played Dumb and Dumber again while Thomas just looked ominously strong - I still do not understand how long term grimpeurs (steady powerful climbers) can suddenly become Puncheurs (short term huge power climbers) at the end of multiple climbing stages legitimately.
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@SynicBast said in 2019 Tour de France:
@Chris-B said in 2019 Tour de France:
I've only watched the highlights package and didn't catch what George did when the big attacks happened - whether he waited a bit for Kruiswijk or couldn't really respond.
That final km doesn't allow waiting for teammates or even shepherding - if your team mate can't keep up so be it - once you slow down you're cooked on that climb - 20% then 14% then a final 24% and a 90° lefthander as well - devil take the hind most...
One only has to look at the last 400m for the battle between 1st and 2nd to see what happens when you blow up - simply left for dead. A bike length becomes forty.
Still debating whether I stay up for tonight's stage - I know I won't be doing so for the ITT - gawd I hate that type of cycling event - what worries me are Team Hypocrit Dopage taking over the tour again because Movistar played Dumb and Dumber again while Thomas just looked ominously strong - I still do not understand how long term grimpeurs (steady powerful climbers) can suddenly become Puncheurs (short term huge power climbers) at the end of multiple climbing stages legitimately.
I spot the problem.