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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1

    I think Ioane and Bender come back in as experienced players, allowing us to experiment a little elsewhere.

    Backline:

    9 - TJP
    10 - Ioane
    11 - Ioane
    12 - Laumape
    13 - Ennor
    14 - Bridge
    15 - Smith

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    @ACT-Crusader RWC squad is announced before this game, so I can't see Laumape or Ennor playing as they aren't going to Japan

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @ACT-Crusader RWC squad is announced before this game, so I can't see Laumape or Ennor playing as they aren't going to Japan

    yep have to agree these 2 will miss out after the games from Reece and Bridge.

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    Harsh on Laumape, he’s been brilliant all year. First reserve I guess.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Harsh on Laumape, he’s been brilliant all year. First reserve I guess.

    Japanese holiday coming up

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  • canefanC Offline
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    Crotty and SBW are finished after the cup. Laumape will have chance to stake his claim

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  • FrankF Offline
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    This game is called don't let our key players get injured.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Harsh on Laumape, he’s been brilliant all year. First reserve I guess.

    Are we throwing ‘brilliants’ around willy nilly these days?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Crotty and SBW are finished after the cup. Laumape will have chance to stake his claim

    Nonu missed the 2007 World Cup squad , laumape is young enough to go again .

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Crotty and SBW are finished after the cup. Laumape will have chance to stake his claim

    Nonu missed the 2007 World Cup squad , laumape is young enough to go again .

    So what you're saying is, if Laumape misses out we lose this world cup?

    But win the next two? 🤔

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    @Anonymous said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Crotty and SBW are finished after the cup. Laumape will have chance to stake his claim

    Nonu missed the 2007 World Cup squad , laumape is young enough to go again .

    So what you're saying is, if Laumape misses out we lose this world cup?

    But win the next two? 🤔

    I would probably take that .

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  • rotatedR Offline
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    @Anonymous said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Crotty and SBW are finished after the cup. Laumape will have chance to stake his claim

    Nonu missed the 2007 World Cup squad , laumape is young enough to go again .

    So what you're saying is, if Laumape misses out we lose this world cup?

    But win the next two? 🤔

    He would have needed to play and lose in 2015 though...

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    @rotated said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Anonymous said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Crotty and SBW are finished after the cup. Laumape will have chance to stake his claim

    Nonu missed the 2007 World Cup squad , laumape is young enough to go again .

    So what you're saying is, if Laumape misses out we lose this world cup?

    But win the next two? 🤔

    He would have needed to play and lose in 2015 though...

    I think he was still playing for the Warriors then, does that count? :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat:

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    @Anonymous said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @rotated said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Anonymous said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Crotty and SBW are finished after the cup. Laumape will have chance to stake his claim

    Nonu missed the 2007 World Cup squad , laumape is young enough to go again .

    So what you're saying is, if Laumape misses out we lose this world cup?

    But win the next two? 🤔

    He would have needed to play and lose in 2015 though...

    I think he was still playing for the Warriors then, does that count? :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat:

    They lost plenty so it probably does , was he wearing mascara?

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @ACT-Crusader RWC squad is announced before this game, so I can't see Laumape or Ennor playing as they aren't going to Japan

    There’s nothing stopping us from playing guys that aren’t in the RWC squad given we have some injuries

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @ACT-Crusader RWC squad is announced before this game, so I can't see Laumape or Ennor playing as they aren't going to Japan

    There’s nothing stopping us from playing guys that aren’t in the RWC squad given we have some injuries

    I thought they arranged the game specifically as a hit out for the squad - I'd think they'd avoid outsiders unless completely necessary.

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    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @ACT-Crusader RWC squad is announced before this game, so I can't see Laumape or Ennor playing as they aren't going to Japan

    There’s nothing stopping us from playing guys that aren’t in the RWC squad given we have some injuries

    I thought they arranged the game specifically as a hit out for the squad.

    Yeah but say at lock they wouldn’t have expected Rettalick and Barrett to be unavailable. Would be foolish to risk Whitelock so they will need some reinforcements. Or is Barrett back for that one?

    Potentially Ioane gets a run at 10, the locks and maybe one loosie depending on the Squire situation.

    Captaincy probably Smith or Cane if he still needs another gallop?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to rotated on last edited by
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    @rotated S Barrett will be available for the Tonga game.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @rotated S Barrett will be available for the Tonga game.

    I thought he got 3 weeks

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    @Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @rotated S Barrett will be available for the Tonga game.

    I thought he got 3 weeks

    One game against the Turbos counts as 3 weeks obviously 🙄

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    replied to Nevorian on last edited by Stargazer
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    @Nevorian

    "With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of
    foul play merited a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to World Rugby
    instructions that dictate any incident of foul play which results in contact with
    the head and/or neck must start at a mid-range level. However, taking into
    account mitigating factors including the Player's exemplary judicial record, his
    expressed remorse and the fact the Player has pleaded guilty at the first
    available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee reduced the
    suspension to 3 weeks."
    
    "The Foul Play Review Committee adjourned the hearing to seek more
    evidence regarding the Player's proposed schedule of matches. Upon
    reconvening the Foul Play Review Committee was presented with extensive
    evidence demonstrating the Player's intended playing schedule."
    
    "The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including Sunday
    1 September 2019.”
    

    So that's Bledisloe 2, Taranaki v Northland and Taranaki v Tasman.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Nonu missed the 2007 World Cup squad

    Was the making of him in many ways. Worked hard on his game after that

    Nonu post-2007 was consistently outstanding - became a blend of raw power, skill and subtle touches

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @rotated S Barrett will be available for the Tonga game.

    Who cares? 5th choice lock

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    @mariner4life

    Who's 4th?

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    @Victor-Meldrew ardie

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    @Victor-Meldrew Jordie Barrett

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    If Josh Ioane is not in the squad - and I don't expect them to pick him - then I'd like TWM to try out the "injured 10" scenario in the second half of this game. So start BB or RM at 10 in this game, and replace him in the game management role by the best playmaker of the non-first fives (I think that's probably Crotty) and make sure you have a good goal kicker on the field (Jordie), and see how that goes. If it's not Crotty, it needs to be another experienced back with excellent organisation and communication skills. To me, that's not Jordie.

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    @Stargazer
    As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    If Josh Ioane is not in the squad - and I don't expect them to pick him - then I'd like TWM to try out the "injured 10" scenario in the second half of this game. So start BB or RM at 10 in this game, and replace him in the game management role by the best playmaker of the non-first fives (I think that's probably Crotty) and make sure you have a good goal kicker on the field (Jordie), and see how that goes. If it's not Crotty, it needs to be another experienced back with excellent organisation and communication skills. To me, that's not Jordie.

    Sounds like a job for Michael Collins.

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    @mimic 🤢 😂

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    @mimic Clearly there's no mods on at the moment because I'm pretty sure that's an instant red card.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Nevorian

    "With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of
    foul play merited a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to World Rugby
    instructions that dictate any incident of foul play which results in contact with
    the head and/or neck must start at a mid-range level. However, taking into
    account mitigating factors including the Player's exemplary judicial record, his
    expressed remorse and the fact the Player has pleaded guilty at the first
    available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee reduced the
    suspension to 3 weeks."
    
    "The Foul Play Review Committee adjourned the hearing to seek more
    evidence regarding the Player's proposed schedule of matches. Upon
    reconvening the Foul Play Review Committee was presented with extensive
    evidence demonstrating the Player's intended playing schedule."
    
    "The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including Sunday
    1 September 2019.”
    

    So that's Bledisloe 2, Taranaki v Northland and Taranaki v Tasman.

    my bad for some reason I thought Tonga was two weeks time, maths not my strong point

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    @Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Stargazer
    As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.

    I'm sure they're trying it in camp

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Stargazer
    As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.

    I'm sure they're trying it in camp

    Wish there was a camping world cup in September 🙂

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    @Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Stargazer
    As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.

    I'm sure they're trying it in camp

    Wish there was a camping world cup in September 🙂

    Wallabies would win that, their training is reputedly (by themselves) to be the best in the world.

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @Stargazer
    As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.

    I'm sure they're trying it in camp

    Wish there was a camping world cup in September 🙂

    Wallabies would win that, their training is reputedly (by themselves) to be the best in the world.

    I call BS. The Boks have the best training methods

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=3535487&pnum=2

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    I dunno, you can't beat it when Foolau is shut up

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    @Machpants Copycats

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    Team I'd pencil in for this one

    Atu Moli, Liam Coltman, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuitupolou, Sam Whitelock, Luke Jacobson, Matt Todd, Ardie Savea, Brad Weber, Josh Ioane (although he won't be in main RWC squad), George Bridge, Ryan Crotty, Reiko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ben Smith

    Bench: Dane Coles, Ofa T, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Kieran Read, TJP, SBW, Jordie Barrett

    Opportunity to try out a few things, give first Test starts to a few of the squad and a chance to say goodbye to guys going offshore after the RWC.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Team I'd pencil in for this one

    Atu Moli, Liam Coltman, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuitupolou, Sam Whitelock, Luke Jacobson, Matt Todd, Ardie Savea, Brad Weber, Josh Ioane (although he won't be in main RWC squad), George Bridge, Ryan Crotty, Reiko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ben Smith

    Bench: Dane Coles, Ofa T, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Kieran Read, TJP, SBW, Jordie Barrett

    Opportunity to try out a few things, give first Test starts to a few of the squad and a chance to say goodbye to guys going offshore after the RWC.

    Sam W too valuable to risk.

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