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  • DuluthD Offline
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    https://www.thesilverfern.com/posts/duluth/2019-09/tsf-s-best-world-cup-xv

    All Blacks best RWC players according to TSF members

    1 Woodcock
    2 Fitzpatrick
    3 Brown
    4 Retallick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Kaino
    7 McCaw
    8 Z Brooke
    9 Bachop
    10 Carter
    11 Lomu
    12 Nonu
    13 Smith
    14 Kirwan
    15 Gallaher

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    @Duluth said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    https://www.thesilverfern.com/posts/duluth/2019-09/tsf-s-best-world-cup-xv

    All Blacks best RWC players according to TSF members

    1 Woodcock
    2 Fitzpatrick
    3 Brown
    4 Retallick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Kaino
    7 McCaw
    8 Z Brooke
    9 Bachop
    10 Carter
    11 Lomu
    12 Nonu
    13 Smith
    14 Kirwan
    15 Gallaher

    They would be crazy good. Time for a 2nd xv?

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    Based on my votes:

    1- Steve McDowall
    2- Sean Fitzpatrick
    3- Owen Franks
    4- Brad Thorn
    5- Sam Whitelock
    6- Jerome Kaino
    7- Richie McCaw
    8- Zinzan Brooke
    9- Graeme Bachop
    10- Andrew Mehrtens
    11- Jonah Lomu
    12- Ma’a Nonu
    13- Joe Stanley
    14- John Kirwan
    15- Glen Osbourne

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    @ACT-Crusader Based on your normal selections, there's an awful lot wrong with that team.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    Based on my votes:

    1- Steve McDowall
    2- Sean Fitzpatrick
    3- Owen Franks
    4- Brad Thorn
    5- Sam Whitelock
    6- Jerome Kaino
    7- Richie McCaw
    8- Zinzan Brooke
    9- Graeme Bachop
    10- Andrew Mehrtens
    11- Jonah Lomu
    12- Ma’a Nonu
    13- Joe Stanley
    14- John Kirwan
    15- Glen Osbourne

    Really?

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    @Snowy said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    @ACT-Crusader Based on your normal selections, there's an awful lot wrong with that team.

    60% correct. Not bad.....

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    @canefan said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    60% correct. Not bad.....

    That would be 40% correct. 60% incorrect. So an "F" in US terms. Really quite bad.
    I'm not coming to you to get my teeth done (kidding).

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    @Snowy said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    @canefan said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    60% correct. Not bad.....

    That would be 40% correct. 60% incorrect. So an "F" in US terms. Really quite bad.
    I'm not coming to you to get my teeth done (kidding).

    He got 9/15 didn't he?

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    I was surprised that there was only four differences between our team and the public voting:

    Fitzpatrick, Olo Brown, Bachop, Gallagher in the TSF team

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    @Duluth said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    I was surprised that there was only four differences between our team and the public voting:

    Fitzpatrick, Olo Brown, Bachop, Gallagher in the TSF team

    Who were the 4 public picks? A bit of recency bias I'd expect? The public are not as discerning and mindful of history as the esteemed minds that inhabit the Fern 😉

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    @canefan said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    @Duluth said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    I was surprised that there was only four differences between our team and the public voting:

    Fitzpatrick, Olo Brown, Bachop, Gallagher in the TSF team

    Who were the 4 public picks? A bit of recency bias I'd expect? The public are not as discerning and mindful of history as the esteemed minds that inhabit the Fern 😉

    Well, to be fair, we've won two world cups in the last 8 years, so the recency bias is entirely explicable. What I don't understand, is the world cup winners who lost out to world cup losers... For example, Olo Brown was a great AB, but Owen Franks has won two world cups. It's not even a contest as far as I'm concerned.

    It's clear to me that too many people have voted based on performances outside of world cups. In most cases, the top world cup performers have been selected, but some of the next in line selections are baffling (Mehrts getting more votes than Grant Fox, FFS!).

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    Wild to me that Ian Jones didn’t crack the nod over Sam. Jones was immense in the 95 final.

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    @Smuts Whitelock was pretty immense in 1.5 finals...that we won 🙂 Plus so good in 2011 that he kept Williams out of the starting side.

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    @canefan said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    He got 9/15 didn't he?

    9/15 were not Crusaders, and therefore %60 were incorrect for an ACT-Crusader team was what I was getting at.

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    Dave Gallaher at Fullback? He was a wing-forward and died nearly 70 years before the first Rugby World Cup.

    O, you mean, John Gallagher..

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    @Duluth Weird that the public poll didn't put Sean Fitzpatrick as the best RWC Hooker. Best player in that position for nearly ten years at international level.

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    @sparky said in Results of the RWC XV voting:

    @Duluth Weird that the public poll didn't put Sean Fitzpatrick as the best RWC Hooker. Best player in that position for nearly ten years at international level.

    It doesn’t matter about his 10 years, it was his RWC performances that should’ve got him the vote. Got mine for his 87 and 95 Cup showings.

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    @sparky I watched highlights of all the AB games from 87 and I think we might be looking at Gallagher through rose tinted specs. Good yeah but better than Osbourne, Dagg or Smith - don't think so. Not based on what I saw of his RWC

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    @dogmeat one of the more surprising ones for sure given the names you mention, particularly the performances of Osbourne in 95 and Dagg 2011.

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    To rate players in the ‘87 tournament, you’d pretty much have to have been born by 1970 to have seen that RWC and grade the players with any degree of knowledge, which means you’d have to be nearly 50 years old now.

    Curious... what is the breakdown of Fern subscribers above/below 40? There’re a few oldfucks here (raises hand slowly), yet my guess is anybody with a sharp recollection of 1987 would be a distinct minority.

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