The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen
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Too many Aucklanders....
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Easy to believe when you consider how young he was, how shy he was and some of the phenomenal stuff he did on the field. Just amazing talent.
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@antipodean said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
Easy to believe when you consider how young he was, how shy he was and some of the phenomenal stuff he did on the field. Just amazing talent.
His year at the Canes he was clearly an amazing talent. A shame he never stayed
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Whilst Toeava may have been selected before his time - Richie was definately the GOAT
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Shag is just doing this for sentimental reasons ,
Nothing like a toeava windup for old times sake.
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@Jailbreak7 said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
Whilst Toeava may have been selected before his time - Richie was definately the GOAT
Not sure what Richie has to do with this conversation?
The only person that thought Richie was selected too early was Kronfeld...
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Easy to see in hindsight Toeava was mishandled. The key is learning from the mistake.
These days they take young players away as apprentices so that they get a feel for the team without all the pressure. Did so with A Savea and also Aumua and someone else I have forgotten about.
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@Damo said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
Easy to see in hindsight Toeava was mishandled. The key is learning from the mistake.
These days they take young players away as apprentices so that they get a feel for the team without all the pressure. Did so with A Savea and also Aumua and someone else I have forgotten about.
Brett Cameron....
I blame Fox
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@ACT-Crusader said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
@Damo said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
Easy to see in hindsight Toeava was mishandled. The key is learning from the mistake.
These days they take young players away as apprentices so that they get a feel for the team without all the pressure. Did so with A Savea and also Aumua and someone else I have forgotten about.
Brett Cameron....
I blame Fox
Too soon to say whether that one (and Aumua) will pay dividends.
I'd say Savea is going pretty well, though that has taken time to flourish.
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@ACT-Crusader said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
@Damo said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
Easy to see in hindsight Toeava was mishandled. The key is learning from the mistake.
These days they take young players away as apprentices so that they get a feel for the team without all the pressure. Did so with A Savea and also Aumua and someone else I have forgotten about.
Brett Cameron....
I blame Fox
Brett Cameron was never an All Blacks apprentice. He was in the 51-men squad for the Japan test in Tokyo and that's all.
A player who has been an apprentice was Atu Moli (for the home part of the 2017 TRC). I think there have been one or two more though.
All Blacks squad named for 2017 Investec Rugby Championship
Key points include the return of prop Nepo Laulala and fullback Nehe Milner-Skudder, while Julian Savea and Matt Todd miss out.
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@Damo @Stargazer umm okay.
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Pretty sure Wayne Smith said the same thing, as did Isa Nacewa.
I remember hearing Kahui say that Ice was the hardest player to defend. I wonder if Conrad thought the same, because Ice use to give him and Nonu fits all the time.
@canefan said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
@antipodean said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
Easy to believe when you consider how young he was, how shy he was and some of the phenomenal stuff he did on the field. Just amazing talent.
His year at the Canes he was clearly an amazing talent. A shame he never stayed
He made Lome Fa'atau look world class that season.
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@Dice said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
Pretty sure Wayne Smith said the same thing, as did Isa Nacewa.
I remember hearing Kahui say that Ice was the hardest player to defend. I wonder if Conrad thought the same, because Ice use to give him and Nonu fits all the time.
@canefan said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
@antipodean said in The most talented rugby player Shag has ever seen:
Easy to believe when you consider how young he was, how shy he was and some of the phenomenal stuff he did on the field. Just amazing talent.
His year at the Canes he was clearly an amazing talent. A shame he never stayed
He made Lome Fa'atau look world class that season.
I think they moved him too soon. Should have stayed at 15 (and at the Canes, the Blues are player killers!!!)
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@canefan all jokes aside, the best footy I saw him play was at 2nd 5 for the Blues. He had matured as a player. He had the speed, vision and kicking game.
I don’t know how to do it, but if anyone can dig up an old post I think by willie the weka who sat near Graham Henry and co at a Chiefs v Blues game and some of the comments overheard about the Toeava vs Kahui matchup.
