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    • Crucial
      Crucial last edited by Duluth

      Who ya gonna select?

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      • Bovidae
        Bovidae last edited by

        I'll have a think about this. I've seen 3 eras of successful Waikato teams in person but some of the names from the 1950s and 60s are legendary.

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        • Hooroo
          Hooroo last edited by Hooroo

          1. Richard Loe
          2. Warren Gatland
          3. Graham Purvis
          4. Royce Willis
          5. Keith Robinson
          6. Aaron Hopa
          7. Duane Monkley
          8. John Mitchell ( c )
          9. Rhys Duggan
          10. John Boe
          11. Bruce Reihana
          12. Rhys Ellis
          13. Richard Kahui
          14. Sitiveni Sivivatu
          15. Daryl Halligan 🙂 (Don Clarke)
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          • Hooroo
            Hooroo last edited by

            Hopa had to be in the team and he did play 6 a bit but Mitchell Starts and Captains the team from 8.

            Wrote and swapped TKB and Duggan in and out about 6 times.

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            • Bovidae
              Bovidae @Hooroo last edited by Bovidae

              @Hooroo Rhys Ellison or Chris Ellis? I would lean towards McLeod.

              So mainly the 1992 pack. I will pick an amateur era and professional era team and then decide.

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              • Hooroo
                Hooroo @Bovidae last edited by

                @Bovidae said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                @Hooroo Rhys Ellison or Chris Ellis? I would lean towards McLeod.

                So mainly the 1992 pack. I will pick an amateur era and professional era team and then decide.

                I wasn't a fan of McLeod as a player. I have fond memories of being at Rugby park watching Rhys Ellison so that's why he gets the nod from me.

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                • Duluth
                  Duluth last edited by Duluth

                  Holah over Monkley

                  Also, Todd Miller was incredible when he first arrived

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                  • Hooroo
                    Hooroo @Duluth last edited by

                    @Duluth said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                    Holah over Monkley

                    Also, Todd Miller was incredible when he first arrived

                    Couldn't play Sundays

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                    • Hooroo
                      Hooroo @Duluth last edited by

                      @Duluth said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                      Holah over Monkley

                      Also, Todd Miller was incredible when he first arrived

                      Holah is on the bench

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                      • Bovidae
                        Bovidae last edited by

                        Based on playing post 1976 my team would be:

                        1. Loe
                        2. Gatland
                        3. Purvis
                        4. Gibbes (c)
                        5. Robinson
                        6. Hopa
                        7. Holah
                        8. Messam
                        9. Duggan
                        10. Donald
                        11. Sivivatu
                        12. ALB
                        13. Kahui
                        14. Randle
                        15. DMac

                        I've left out some of my favourite Mooloo players.

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                        • Hooroo
                          Hooroo @Bovidae last edited by

                          @Bovidae I thought Loe played tighthead? Was he a loosehead?

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                          • Bovidae
                            Bovidae @Hooroo last edited by

                            @Hooroo He played both but LH when playing with Purvis, who was only a TH.

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                            • Hooroo
                              Hooroo @Bovidae last edited by

                              @Bovidae said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                              @Hooroo He played both but LH when playing with Purvis, who was only a TH.

                              Nice! I need to switch mine around then.

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                              • Bovidae
                                Bovidae last edited by

                                There was a time when Loe was at LH for Waikato but TH for the ABs (e.g. 1988). Not too common now.

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                                • Bovidae
                                  Bovidae last edited by

                                  I could have picked Mils at fullback but he is really an Auckland player.

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                                  • Bovidae
                                    Bovidae last edited by

                                    A team from the amateur era.

                                    1. Paul Koteka
                                    2. Ron Hemi
                                    3. Ian Clarke
                                    4. Steve Gordon
                                    5. Richard Jerram
                                    6. Rex Pickering
                                    7. Duane Monkley
                                    8. John Mitchell
                                    9. Ponty Reid
                                    10. Ian Foster
                                    11. Jason Goldsmith
                                    12. Rhys Ellison
                                    13. Arthur Stone
                                    14. Bruce Smith
                                    15. Don Clarke
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                                    • Tim
                                      Tim last edited by

                                      The Gordon brothers were good.

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                                      • Tim
                                        Tim @Bovidae last edited by

                                        @Bovidae I thought we were doing players who participated in the NPC?

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                                        • Bovidae
                                          Bovidae @Tim last edited by

                                          @Tim Refer to my first team posted.

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                                          • shark
                                            shark @Crucial last edited by

                                            @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                                            Who ya gonna select?

                                            Who cares

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                                            • shark
                                              shark @Bovidae last edited by

                                              @Bovidae Jasin Goldsmith wasn't it?

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                                              • shark
                                                shark last edited by

                                                Oops, there I go caring.

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                                                • Bovidae
                                                  Bovidae last edited by

                                                  OK, to get some input from other Waikato fans.

                                                  The front row would be unanimous.

                                                  Choices for other positions:
                                                  Locks - Steve Gordon, Brent Anderson, Mark Cooksley, Keith Robinson, Royce Willis, Jono Gibbes
                                                  Blindsides - Miah Melsom, Richard Jerram, Aaron Hopa, Steven Bates, Liam Messam
                                                  Opensides - Duane Monkley vs Marty Holah
                                                  No.8s - Brian Morrissey, John Mitchell, Deon Muir, Sione Lauaki
                                                  Halfbacks - Rhys Duggan vs Tawera Kerr-Barlow. Kevin Putt, Simon Crabb, Brendon Leonard and Byron Kelleher also in the mix.
                                                  1st 5s - John Boe, Ian Foster, Glen Jackson, David Hill, Stephen Donald
                                                  Midfield - Chris Ellis, Arthur Stone, Matthew Cooper, Rhys Ellison, Scott McLeod, Keith Lowen, Richard Kahui, Anton Lienert-Brown
                                                  Wingers - Bruce Smith (70 tries in 83 games), Bruce Reihana (45 in 81), Roger Randle (50 in 59), Sitiveni Sivivatu (19 in 30), Sevu Reece (26 in 33)
                                                  Fullbacks - Andrew Strawbridge, Daryl Halligan, Matthew Cooper, Todd Miller, Mils Muliaina, Damian McKenzie

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                                                    ploughboy @Bovidae last edited by

                                                    @Bovidae
                                                    will add some more names for us old buggers
                                                    foxy bennett i think he was still playing when npc started
                                                    hud ricket
                                                    geoff hines
                                                    dick myers
                                                    kevin greene

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                                                    • booboo
                                                      booboo @Hooroo last edited by

                                                      @Hooroo said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                                                      1. Richard Loe
                                                      2. Warren Gatland
                                                      3. Graham Purvis
                                                      4. Royce Willis
                                                      5. Keith Robinson
                                                      6. Aaron Hopa
                                                      7. Duane Monkley
                                                      8. John Mitchell ( c )
                                                      9. Rhys Duggan
                                                      10. John Boe
                                                      11. Bruce Reihana
                                                      12. Rhys EllisArthur Stone
                                                      13. Richard Kahui
                                                      14. Sitiveni Sivivatu
                                                      15. Daryl Halligan 🙂 (Don Clarke)
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                                                      • Snowy
                                                        Snowy @booboo last edited by

                                                        @booboo Your 12 there is "he who shall never be mentioned" around me (and my father).

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                                                        • booboo
                                                          booboo @Snowy last edited by

                                                          @Snowy said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                                                          @booboo Your 12 there is "he who shall never be mentioned" around me (and my father).

                                                          Can you mention why?

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                                                          • Snowy
                                                            Snowy @booboo last edited by Snowy

                                                            @booboo 1980 (I think) Ranfurly shield challenge. Intercept try. 7 - 3. We left Eden Park in "Stony" silence.

                                                            Back to bloody counselling for me.

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                                                            • Bovidae
                                                              Bovidae @ploughboy last edited by

                                                              @ploughboy said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                                                              @Bovidae
                                                              will add some more names for us old buggers
                                                              foxy bennett i think he was still playing when npc started
                                                              hud ricket
                                                              geoff hines
                                                              dick myers
                                                              kevin greene

                                                              My first Waikato game as a kid was in 1980 so the first 3 on that list were stalwarts of that RS team. Add in Koteka and Searancke in the front row. Up and under here we go!

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                                                                ploughboy @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                @Bovidae myers was on the bench when they won the shield off auckland . george simpkins called himup to add experence. didnt add kiwi as didnt think he should be in mix good player though.

                                                                my team
                                                                bam bam koteka
                                                                gatland
                                                                loe
                                                                ricket
                                                                robinson
                                                                hopa
                                                                monkley
                                                                myers
                                                                greene
                                                                foster
                                                                sivivtu
                                                                ellis
                                                                kahui
                                                                smith
                                                                strawbridge

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                                                                • Bovidae
                                                                  Bovidae @ploughboy last edited by

                                                                  @ploughboy I don't remember Hud Rickit being that great around the field, more just a tall lineout forward. John Fleming was another good lock from that period.

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                                                                    ploughboy @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                    @Bovidae to be fair around the park wasnt his strong point but that era that wasnt what they trained for.
                                                                    ALB and DMAC proberly should be in team .

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                                                                      ploughboy last edited by

                                                                      murray tayler at ten was awesome till he broke his leg never got back to same form afterwards

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                                                                      • Bovidae
                                                                        Bovidae last edited by

                                                                        If we have to pick a captain, to me it comes down to Mitchell, Gibbes or Messam. Bennett doesn't make the team ahead of Gatland and neither would Bates.

                                                                        It's amazing that Mitchell remains the 2nd highest try-scorer for Waikato with 67. I wonder how many of those were from pushover tries?

                                                                        For lock I think you need a power lock to complement Robinson. Anderson, Gordon or Willis.

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                                                                          ploughboy last edited by

                                                                          gats could captain team. i would pick willis if we had to go for a power lock. captain has to be a starter pick your best players not your captain and make him a starter.

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                                                                          • shark
                                                                            shark @Bovidae last edited by shark

                                                                            @Bovidae said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                                                                            OK, to get some input from other Waikato fans.

                                                                            The front row would be unanimous.

                                                                            Choices for other positions:
                                                                            Locks - Steve Gordon, Brent Anderson, Mark Cooksley, Keith Robinson, Royce Willis, Jono Gibbes
                                                                            Blindsides - Miah Melsom, Richard Jerram, Aaron Hopa, Steven Bates, Liam Messam
                                                                            Opensides - Duane Monkley vs Marty Holah
                                                                            No.8s - Brian Morrissey, John Mitchell, Deon Muir, Sione Lauaki
                                                                            Halfbacks - Rhys Duggan vs Tawera Kerr-Barlow. Kevin Putt, Simon Crabb, Brendon Leonard and Byron Kelleher also in the mix.
                                                                            1st 5s - John Boe, Ian Foster, Glen Jackson, David Hill, Stephen Donald
                                                                            Midfield - Chris Ellis, Arthur Stone, Matthew Cooper, Rhys Ellison, Scott McLeod, Keith Lowen, Richard Kahui, Anton Lienert-Brown
                                                                            Wingers - Bruce Smith (70 tries in 83 games), Bruce Reihana (45 in 81), Roger Randle (50 in 59), Sitiveni Sivivatu (19 in 30), Sevu Reece (26 in 33)
                                                                            Fullbacks - Andrew Strawbridge, Daryl Halligan, Matthew Cooper, Todd Miller, Mils Muliaina, Damian McKenzie

                                                                            Keith Lowen wasn't alone in that NPC winning midfield...he had a future AB next to him, who at least deserves to make a list featuring Ellis, Lowen and Ellison....

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                                                                              Bovidae @ploughboy last edited by

                                                                              @ploughboy said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                                                                              gats could captain team. i would pick willis if we had to go for a power lock. captain has to be a starter pick your best players not your captain and make him a starter.

                                                                              Fair enough. Honestly, I always thought Mitchell was the least deserving of that loose forward trio to make the ABs. Jerram and Monkley should have made the ABs ahead of him.

                                                                              I would happily pick Hopa at 6 and Messam at no.8. I would still select Holah though. 🙂

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                                                                              • Bovidae
                                                                                Bovidae @shark last edited by

                                                                                @shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

                                                                                Keith Lowen wasn't alone in that NPC winning midfield...he had a future AB next to him, who at least deserves to make a list featuring Ellis, Lowen and Ellison....

                                                                                The reason I didn't include Regan King was that he only played 23 games for Waikato. The others played 50+, and in some cases 100+. None of them makes my team anyway.

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                                                                                • shark
                                                                                  shark last edited by

                                                                                  I fucked that up anyway. Waikato didn't win the NPC in 2002, did they? But they must have had a good run. I was living in Australia at the time but recall the hype around King and Lowen and Waikato doing well??

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                                                                                  • Bovidae
                                                                                    Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

                                                                                    Updated team:

                                                                                    1. Koteka
                                                                                    2. Gatland
                                                                                    3. Loe
                                                                                    4. Willis
                                                                                    5. Robinson
                                                                                    6. Hopa
                                                                                    7. Holah/Monkley
                                                                                    8. Messam
                                                                                    9. Duggan/Greene
                                                                                    10. Donald/Jackson/Foster/W Smith
                                                                                    11. Sivivatu
                                                                                    12. Lienert-Brown
                                                                                    13. Kahui
                                                                                    14. Randle/B Smith
                                                                                    15. Muliaina/McKenzie/Strawbridge
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