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@Tim said in US Politics:
Looking forward to more graduate students who can't write a sentence or solve a simple differential equation.
Katie Herzog is only the second most hated person at the stranger, that should help her on her goal to top spot.
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Not sure how closely people have been following the shenanigans, but while Democrats have face-planted badly in their inept strategy to get rid of Trump, they’ve been quietly changing their primary and Convention rules to make sure Bernie doesn’t win. They’re stacking the deck against him, 2016 redux. (Obviously, they’re putting the screws to Yang and Tulsi too, but Bernie looks like either frontrunner or No. 2.) And they’re bending over to promote a billionaire candidate.
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@Salacious-Crumb I'm not tracking what they're up to re stacking the deck against Bernie, but they're right to do so if they can. Trump will eat him alive. Biden too. It'll be embarrassing.
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@voodoo said in US Politics:
@Salacious-Crumb I'm not tracking what they're up to re stacking the deck against Bernie, but they're right to do so if they can. Trump will eat him alive. Biden too. It'll be embarrassing.
A rampant socialist like Bernie can't win in America. At least the DNC are smart enough to acknowledge that.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@voodoo said in US Politics:
@Salacious-Crumb I'm not tracking what they're up to re stacking the deck against Bernie, but they're right to do so if they can. Trump will eat him alive. Biden too. It'll be embarrassing.
A rampant socialist like Bernie can't win in America. At least the DNC are smart enough to acknowledge that.
They aren’t even trying to hide how they are screwing hom this time .
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@voodoo said in US Politics:
@Salacious-Crumb I'm not tracking what they're up to re stacking the deck against Bernie, but they're right to do so if they can. Trump will eat him alive. Biden too. It'll be embarrassing.
They're struggling for viable candidates once again. Warren won't exactly strike fear into Trump either. Most likely outcome is another 4 years of Trump at this stage.
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@No-Quarter yep, they've been a disgrace.
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I don’t think Bernie has the charisma to beat Trump in a general, but could he do it? Hell yes he could.
We don’t know the number of Sanders supporters who jumped shipped to vote Trump against Hillary, but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence it happened.
Look at the reed-thin margins Trump won in the blue collar rust belts Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin — where Bernie is VERY popular with working class and young people. If they get mobilized....
Do I think it’s going to happen? No. (Confidence level: 3.5/5) Can it happen? Don’t laugh, but yes it can.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in US Politics:
@antipodean
Look at the reed-thin margins Trump won in the blue collar rust belts Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin — where Bernie is VERY popular with working class and young people. If they get mobilized....
Do I think it’s going to happen? No. (Confidence level: 3.5/5) Can it happen? Don’t laugh, but yes it can.I wonder if Sanders has too much baggage to get those votes.
The rumours that the Republicans have video of Sanders chanting "Death to America" with the Sandinista's may be just that, but some of the things he is on record as saying - putting nuclear waste in places where poor white people and Latinos live as it's cheaper - will be relentlessly used against him by Trump.
You can imagine the "Bernie Sanders - Environmental Racist" campaign slogan.
Still, anything's possible
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@No-Quarter said in US Politics:
Most likely outcome is another 4 years of Trump at this stage.
Helped by the cack-handed Democrat impeachment campaign boosting Trump's approval ratings and strengthening his appeal to large numbers of voters who dislike the Washington establishment.
Some of the smarter Democrats warned of the dangers of impeaching Trump, but virtue-signalling and Trump Derangement Syndrome seemed to override realism
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@macandcheese said in US Politics:
At least Republicans did not resort to such nefarious means when Trump was surging It would not have been tolerated
Out of disorganization and incompetence, nothing virtuous happened there.
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@rotated said in US Politics:
@macandcheese said in US Politics:
At least Republicans did not resort to such nefarious means when Trump was surging It would not have been tolerated
Out of disorganization and incompetence, nothing virtuous happened there.
So, trying to follow along here... If a party has a vote, and makes it a fair vote, and doesn’t rig the vote, and actually counts the ballots, and then assigns the winner to the candidate with BY FAR the most votes and qualifies with the most delegates. . . that’s disorganized, incompetent, and lacking sufficient virtue?
Strange concept of democracy.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in US Politics:
@rotated said in US Politics:
@macandcheese said in US Politics:
At least Republicans did not resort to such nefarious means when Trump was surging It would not have been tolerated
Out of disorganization and incompetence, nothing virtuous happened there.
So, trying to follow along here... If a party has a vote, and makes it a fair vote, and doesn’t rig the vote, and actually counts the ballots, and then assigns the winner to the candidate with BY FAR the most votes and qualifies with the most delegates. . . that’s disorganized, incompetent, and lacking sufficient virtue?
Strange concept of democracy.
I'm disagreeing that shifting the goalposts against Trump (similar to how they were for Bernie) wouldn't have been tolerated.
The establishment republican party clearly wanted to coalesce against Trump but at first lacked the urgency and then lacked sufficient time/mechanisms to do so.
You can hardly hold the Republican Party up as a bastion of free and fair primaries after 2000.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in US Politics:
If a party has a vote, and makes it a fair vote, and doesn’t rig the vote, and actually counts the ballots, and then assigns the winner to the candidate with BY FAR the most votes and qualifies with the most delegates.
So pretty much the opposite of the Bushs Republican Florida 2000 election?
That post just reminded me of it and the hanging chads. That still feels wrong, although we will never know.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
Warren Says Her Secretary of Education Would Have To Be Vetted By 9-Year-Old ‘Trans’ Child
I heard that yesterday on a podcast and had to look it up because it sounded too ridiculous to be true . That’s a sure fire vote winner.
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The impeachment scam is almost certainly settled, Trump will get acquitted in a couple days, but right now Adam Schiff is in the House ranting like a mental patient. It’s both terrifying and hilarious to watch. Trump’s counsel should not object to anything he says, just let him go red in the face and let his spittle fly, he alone disqualifies his entire case. This is a temper tantrum for the ages.
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That was the general election, not a convention for a party nom. And it wasn’t the GOP who controlled that recount, they had better lawyers, or else a better case, because it was the Supreme Court who judged in their favour.
(Also, that was 16 years and four conventions before 2016.)
“That still feels wrong”
That’s why you have courts that make these decisions, not tv networks and coin tosses.
And I say this as somebody who despised Bush and wanted him to lose. The courts ruled, surely it’s time people moved on?
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