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Using they to describe one person is an affront to the English language.
Edit - I guess it may work for some sentences, but that's a pretty difficult act to keep up.
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@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@booboo Tommy Robinson was on national TV calling out the Manchester mosque that Ramadan Abedi attended...end result of that was him being called a Nazi/Islamophobe
...a full year later the bbc investigated and what d'ya know..Tommy was right..again. Best put him in prison.
Hate speech law certainly appears to be influenced by intersectional theory. The more 'oppressed' your identity group apparently is, the more protections you have regardless of what the truth may be.
But he was just another mentally disturbed lone wolf wasn't he?
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@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt I'm confused how they're offending 4,999 people?
Really. You would like to be told you are not a him?
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@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt I'm confused how they're offending 4,999 people?
Now that I can grow a beard I am extremely happy when folks assume my gender
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@rembrandt said in British Politics:
So NHS staff are being encouraged to use 'they' when referring to patients so as not to offend trans folk.
Transgender are what, at most 1 in 2000 people? And of that tiny percentage most would dress up to look like specific gender..
So in conclusion new guidelines propose it is more important to offend 4,999 out of 5,000 people than it is to potentially upset that 1 person who either doesn't give a damn or is so mentally ill anyway that they'll be looking for a reason to be offended anyway.
Is this something that a majority of trans people are actually advocating for or is it just another example of the SJWs taking up the good fight on their behalf?
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@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt I'm confused how they're offending 4,999 people?
Now that I can grow a beard I am extremely happy when folks assume my gender
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@baron-silas-greenback that's not what they're doing is it?
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@bones said in British Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback that's not what they're doing is it?
Yes actually that is exactly what they are doing. You are him, and they call you a they.
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@bones said in British Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback that's not what they're doing is it?
You honestly don't think that someone referring to every patient due to the minuscule chance that one of them might be trans and thus offended is utterly ridiculous? Maybe we should abolish handshaking on the offchance that someone might be an amputee?
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@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt and you're offended if they don't? Really?
100% and its not just about me personally, its the sheer ridiculousness of the situation not to mention complete affront to the English language. The gender theory that pushes this garbage has zero scientific basis and is being used increasingly to destroy children and young adults lives.
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@baron-silas-greenback well no that wouldn't offend me, but I don't see it that way. They're just not referring to me as anything. My thought would be...so what?
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@rancid-schnitzel I never said that.
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@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt and you're offended if they don't? Really?
100% and its not just about me personally, its the sheer ridiculousness of the situation not to mention complete affront to the English language. The gender theory that pushes this garbage has zero scientific basis and is being used increasingly to destroy children and young adults lives.
Fair enough, but aren't you getting offended on others behalf? Getting offended about people being offended?
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@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt and you're offended if they don't? Really?
100% and its not just about me personally, its the sheer ridiculousness of the situation not to mention complete affront to the English language. The gender theory that pushes this garbage has zero scientific basis and is being used increasingly to destroy children and young adults lives.
Fair enough, but aren't you getting offended on others behalf? Getting offended about people being offended?
It's a cruel and twisted world out there 😁
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@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@bones Let me put it back to you. Are you comfortable living in a society with children as young as 3 years old transitioning genders? I'm not a parent yet but this sort of thing terrifies me.
Nope not at all, but I didn't realise that's what we're talking about....I thought it was about what people in Britain might get addressed as in healthcare...perhaps I should have read the article.
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@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@bones Let me put it back to you. Are you comfortable living in a society with children as young as 3 years old transitioning genders? I'm not a parent yet but this sort of thing terrifies me.
Nope not at all, but I didn't realise that's what we're talking about....I thought it was about what people in Britain might get addressed as in healthcare...perhaps I should have read the article.
It doesn't look like a big deal on the surface, but the idea behind using "they" is social constructionism applied to gender. I.E. they think the only reason there are personality differences between men and women is because we have socially constructed them. Which is why you see these people either making up their own genders or deciding they are no gender at all.
It's been proven to be straight up wrong, there's a wealth of scientific evidence pointing to the evolutionary and biological factors that influence personality and gender, which have been observed not only in humans but also other primates. So it's utterly bizarre that we are making all these changes to accommodate such an obviously defunct idea.
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@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@bones Let me put it back to you. Are you comfortable living in a society with children as young as 3 years old transitioning genders? I'm not a parent yet but this sort of thing terrifies me.
Nope not at all, but I didn't realise that's what we're talking about....I thought it was about what people in Britain might get addressed as in healthcare...perhaps I should have read the article.
OK well it's associated. The concept being taught in academia as fact at the moment is that Gender is a social construct. This is demonstrably untrue and has extremely far reaching consequences. Currently there is a disproportionate amount of people in positions of power who are forcing this ideology on to the general public. This addressing people by 'they' is an extension of that and normalising that ideology. Children and vulnerable young adults are extremely susceptible to this influence and we are now entering an era where scientific articles demonstrating this danger are being censored, un-financed or removed due to activist pressure because it doesn't fit the false 'social construct' narrative.
The end result is people who should be in the first instance receiving psychological help for a condition are instead being pushed toward dangerous and irreversible treatments to put them into a community with a suicide rate higher than that of Jewish people in Nazi Germany. The fact is 80% of those who mis-identify with their gender pre-puberty re-identify by the time they finish puberty.
I accept that there are genuine transgender people but it is extremely rare and although I only have a sample of 1 as my transgender friends she feels the exactly the same as I do.
The other aspect too is this seems to be another step towards 'compelled speech' much like Canada's C-16 Bill which first bought Jordan Peterson into prominence.
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