Ableist abuse
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UK Ferners will be aware of a weekly BBC TV programme 'Question Time' on which a a panel of politicians, and a range of well known people in the public eye, answer topical questions from the audience (made up of cross section of British society).
Last night, one of the panelists was Rosie Jones, who is a comedian and presenter and who also happens to be gay and disabled (she has cerebral palsy).
Evidently, today she has been subject to all sorts of social media abuse as a result of her appearance, largely because it can be difficult to understand her when she's speaking. She's come out on the front foot and called out the 'ableist abuse' Loads of celebs have voiced their support for her.
Whilst I agree with BBC commentary which says society appears comfortable with disability being discussed, but its not so tolerant of disabled people making their own voices heard, part of me thinks the biggest issue here is that Rosie Jones, irrespective of her disability, is one of the most irritating, unlikable personalities I've had the misfortune to see on TV. This clouds things somewhat. It was for that reason, I switched over when QT was on last night (well that and one of the the other panelists was Lisa Nandy - failed Labour party leadership candidate and all round negativity soul-sucker).
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Tim
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No.
I've seen her on the UK comedy panel shows - 8-out-of-10-cats-does-countdown, and that sort of thing - and yeah, I get annoyed at her slurred speech... because it just slows down the jokes. And that's just me being an impatient fluffy-bunny. Other than that - she's typically (nearly) just as amusing, self-deprecating, and entertaining as any other comedian on that show.
I haven't seen, or heard, this particular appearance - but from what I've seen of her previous work - there should be no reason to dislike her to the extent of creating such a thread. -
@kruse yeah I've enjoyed her work on comedy shows, probably a lot just because she's not afraid of making a joke on any subject and is pretty out there.
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@kruse maybe my point was a bit ham-fisted. I didn't create a thread because I dislike her. Her appearance on QT created some media interest as a result of some of the online abuse she was unfortunately subject to afterwards. This was wrapped up under ableist abuse. I don't condone this but was merely suggesting that not all the online sentiment was directly attributed to her disability (even though it was presented this way in the media). Irrespective of her disability, there are people (quite a bit of online evidence) who just don't find her funny and find her a bit self-centred and irritating.
In hindsight though , this probably didn't warrant a thread on its own to make my point ...
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@scribe think I get what you were saying....bit like when Lewis Hamilton gets criticised it's probably racist, but if Verstappen got criticised it wouldn't be?
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@bones said in Ableist abuse:
@scribe think I get what you were saying....bit like when Lewis Hamilton gets criticised it's probably racist, but if Verstappen got criticised it wouldn't be?
Have a look at Dave Chapelle's latest Netflix stand up. I didn't find all of it funny, lots of it sounded like a lecture actually. But fuck me if a white bloke tried to say even 30% of that, he'd be cancelled in a minute.
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@bones said in Ableist abuse:
@scribe think I get what you were saying....bit like when Lewis Hamilton gets criticised it's probably racist, but if Verstappen got criticised it wouldn't be?
That’s exactly what it is.
Much respect to her but I don’t find her funny. But im not allowed to say that.
Only the straight white man can be critiqued. That’s the way it is now.
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@majorrage said in Ableist abuse:
@bones said in Ableist abuse:
@scribe think I get what you were saying....bit like when Lewis Hamilton gets criticised it's probably racist, but if Verstappen got criticised it wouldn't be?
That’s exactly what it is.
Much respect to her but I don’t find her funny. But im not allowed to say that.
Only the straight white man can be critiqued. That’s the way it is now.
Don't know if your other half gets into Strictly Come Dancing but fuuuuuuck meeeeee the shit that the head judge Shirley gets away with saying would see them cut for a commercial break immediately if it was a bloke and they'd return without the bloke present. She's an absolute sleaze and the shit she gets away with saying in this day and age is pretty gobsmacking, but it's woman on man so it's ok.
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@voodoo yeah similar to my story above.
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@bones No, we don't watch it. Not our thing. One of the reasons we are married.
Doesn't surprise me tho.
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@voodoo said in Ableist abuse:
@bones said in Ableist abuse:
@scribe think I get what you were saying....bit like when Lewis Hamilton gets criticised it's probably racist, but if Verstappen got criticised it wouldn't be?
Have a look at Dave Chapelle's latest Netflix stand up. I didn't find all of it funny, lots of it sounded like a lecture actually. But fuck me if a white bloke tried to say even 30% of that, he'd be cancelled in a minute.
I watched it too.
It wasn't that good.
I used to find him funny though.He's gone too far into black victimhood for me.
A lot of these comedians start thinking they are philosopher kings wise sage types.
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@majorrage said in Ableist abuse:
No, we don't watch it. Not our thing. One of the reasons we are married.
Mrs M does. The bloody thing takes up the entire Saturday nite. I retire to the annexe TV with a decent Pinot or Bordeaux so it's all good, I guess
@Bones I don't have a problem with the Shirley creature saying what she does - just want the same extended to everyone else. Fat chance.
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@victor-meldrew oh hell yeah, my only issue with it is the hypocrisy, that it's embraced and encouraged by everyone, and the not straight blokes occasionally do it too, but if a straight bloke as a judge said about getting tingles watching a female dance, or said about how she should wear less all the time, they'd probably be thrown out of the country.
