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    • Duluth
      Duluth last edited by

      Barrett should be back. Are Romano and/or Hodgman expected to be fit?

      Backline mostly the same apart from Barrett coming back? I guess Perofeta will start at fullback ahead of Zarn?

      The ranking of the locks will be interesting

      Vikena had a mixed game. I still hope he makes the bench ahead of RR

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      • KiwiMurph
        KiwiMurph last edited by

        I'd like to see them try Beaudy at 15 and Perofeta at 10 but it won't happen.

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          Nogusta @Duluth last edited by

          @Duluth I'd leave Zarn at the back with Perofeta replacing Lam on the bench. Leon n co will definitely try n put out the top 23 every week and I too would like to see Vikena as the backup hooker. Apparently RTS and Bryce Heem have been pretty banged up for a few weeks now and only just making it onto the field. Heem only managed 1 training session prior to last Fridays game. So maaaybe a change there.

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          • Duluth
            Duluth @Nogusta last edited by

            @Nogusta

            If Heem is out then Tanielu Tele'a would come onto the bench to cover midfield?

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            • KiwiMurph
              KiwiMurph last edited by KiwiMurph

              I wonder if Evans might get another shot if RTS/Heem are banged up.

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                Nogusta @Duluth last edited by

                @Duluth Heem looked fine on Friday and showed his value off the bench covering fullback and then moving up to centre. Hopefully he's fit this week

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                  cgrant last edited by

                  I remember when many Ferners said Heem's recruitment was an absolute nonsense. Times have changed.

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                  • Duluth
                    Duluth @cgrant last edited by

                    @cgrant said in Blues v Reds:

                    I remember when many Ferners said Heem's recruitment was an absolute nonsense. Times have changed.

                    Blues fans? I’m pretty sure it was mostly positive

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                    • Duluth
                      Duluth last edited by Duluth

                      Yeah it was mostly positive in the Blues thread. See the responses to the announcement here: link

                      Maybe non Blues fans were talking shit?

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                      • KiwiMurph
                        KiwiMurph @cgrant last edited by

                        @cgrant He's gone much better than I thought he would. While he's not a natural midfielder he's been an excellent utility.

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                        • Daffy Jaffy
                          Daffy Jaffy @cgrant last edited by Daffy Jaffy

                          @cgrant I think those who did not rate his signing remembered the mostly Sevens player that left in 2015 and did not follow his 96 games in Europe since then. For both Worcester and Toulon he proved to be solid, reliable quality at Wing, Centre and Fullback. The question now is whether he will stay on another year or will they promote a new young prospect next season. He will turn 34 before next season starts.

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                            cgrant @Duluth last edited by

                            @Duluth
                            The negatives comments came just after a team announcement in which his name appeared for the first time in SRA. It was on the wing and his performance was rather meh. A number of ferners then claimed he was too slow and better (and younger) options existed.

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                              Nogusta @Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                              @Daffy-Jaffy I believe he will or has been offered an option for 2023

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                              • Kirwan
                                Kirwan @Nogusta last edited by

                                @Nogusta said in Blues v Reds:

                                @Daffy-Jaffy I believe he will or has been offered an option for 2023

                                Great news, he's been really good for us.

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                                  Nogusta @Kirwan last edited by Nogusta

                                  @Kirwan hes done exactly the job Leon brought him in for and been great at it! Injury/utility cover and veteran leadership/experience around the club. Has turned a 1 year 'lifeline' into 3 seasons of SR.
                                  Youd've thought that when Plummer and RTS both went down long term that Tele'a would've been next in line but Heem has been McDonalds preferred option. That doesnt bode well for Tele'a for the immediate future especially with Plummer back. He will be the 4th option at 12 so wont get many if any starting opportunities. He could be on the move next year.
                                  I wonder too how patient Corey Evans will be stuck behind RTS. Hes too good not to be getting more than the odd appearance off the bench.

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                                  • Kirwan
                                    Kirwan @Nogusta last edited by

                                    @Nogusta said in Blues v Reds:

                                    @Kirwan hes done exactly the job Leon brought him in for and been great at it! Injury/utility cover and veteran leadership/experience around the club. Has turned a 1 year 'lifeline' into 3 seasons of SR.
                                    Youd've thought that when Plummer and RTS both went down long term that Tele'a would've been next in line but Heem has been McDonalds preferred option. That doesnt bode well for Tele'a for the immediate future especially with Plummer back. He will be the 4th option at 12 so wont get many if any starting opportunities. He could be on the move next year.
                                    I wonder too how patient Corey Evans will be stuck behind RTS. Hes too good not to be getting more than the odd appearance off the bench.

                                    Yeah, it's certainly a different problem for the Blues - too many good players, not enough spots. Great for depth, not great for individual careers and will be hard to keep everyone.

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                                    • KiwiMurph
                                      KiwiMurph @Nogusta last edited by

                                      @Nogusta I could see Heem transitioning next year into the 2021 Romano role at the Crusaders - older head who doesn't play as much whilst Evans gets more game time.

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                                      • nzzp
                                        nzzp @Nogusta last edited by

                                        @Nogusta said in Blues v Reds:

                                        I wonder too how patient Corey Evans will be stuck behind RTS. Hes too good not to be getting more than the odd appearance off the bench.

                                        Corey looked silk when I saw him playing. Hopefully he gets more time next year, and develops well during the NPC.

                                        There's quality talent coming through which is awesome.

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                                        • taniwharugby
                                          taniwharugby @nzzp last edited by taniwharugby

                                          @nzzp the lack of NPC in 2021 has certainly not helped some players particularly those in the greater Auckland region, just exaggerated the issues already with stuttered seasons.

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                                          • Duluth
                                            Duluth last edited by

                                            Reds

                                            Dane Zander, Albert Anae, Feao Fotuaika, Ryan Smith, Angus Blyth, Connor Vest, Angus Scott-Young, Seru Uru, Tate McDermott (c), James O'Connor, Jordan Petaia, Hunter Paisami, Josh Flook, Suliasi Vunivalu, Jock Campbell

                                            Reserves: Matt Faessler, Harry Hoopert, Sef Fa'agase, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Tuaina Tualima, Kalani Thomas, Hamish Stewart, Lawson Creighton

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                                            • Daffy Jaffy
                                              Daffy Jaffy @Duluth last edited by Daffy Jaffy

                                              @Duluth With Albert Anae playing hooker, the Blues will want to pressure his throws. It looks like the Reds have picked the heaviest, tallest pack available to them. They will miss Wilson at 8 though. That backline has plenty of pace and looks much stronger with O'Connor and Paisami back this week.
                                              Edit - I just realised that Fraser McReight is also out. They will miss him too, he has been outstanding for them.

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                                              • Daffy Jaffy
                                                Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                                                Referee:Mike Fraser
                                                Assistant Ref 1:Angus Mabey
                                                Assistant Ref 2:Jono Bredin
                                                TMO: Aaron Paterson

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                                                • Bones
                                                  Bones @Nogusta last edited by

                                                  @Nogusta said in Blues v Reds:

                                                  I wonder too how patient Corey Evans will be stuck behind RTS.

                                                  He's welcome to head south if Havili doesn't decide to go further south...

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                                                  • FakatavaFuture
                                                    FakatavaFuture @Bones last edited by

                                                    @Bones think realistic.. Plummer in Dunners😭

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                                                    • Kirwan
                                                      Kirwan @FakatavaFuture last edited by

                                                      @FakatavaFuture said in Blues v Reds:

                                                      @Bones think realistic.. Plummer in Dunners😭

                                                      Plummer would be a great get for the Highlanders.

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                                                      • FakatavaFuture
                                                        FakatavaFuture @Kirwan last edited by

                                                        @Kirwan sure, the guy came up clutch in last yrs final

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                                                        • Duluth
                                                          Duluth last edited by

                                                          Not on the Blues site yet, but this is on the official Aussie rugby site:

                                                          Alex Hodgman, Kurt Eklund, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, James Tucker, Tom Robinson, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii (c), Hoskins Sotutu, Finlay Christie, Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Rieko Ioane, Mark Telea, Stephen Perofeta

                                                          Reserves: Soana Vikena, Jordan Lay, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Adrian Choat, Sam Nock, Bryce Heem, Zarn Sullivan

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                                                          • Kirwan
                                                            Kirwan @Duluth last edited by

                                                            @Duluth said in Blues v Reds:

                                                            Not on the Blues site yet, but this is on the official Aussie rugby site:

                                                            Alex Hodgman, Kurt Eklund, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, James Tucker, Tom Robinson, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii (c), Hoskins Sotutu, Finlay Christie, Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Rieko Ioane, Mark Telea, Stephen Perofeta

                                                            Reserves: Soana Vikena, Jordan Lay, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Adrian Choat, Sam Nock, Bryce Heem, Zarn Sullivan

                                                            I'm liking that team a lot. Glad they are giving Vikena another run, and I like Robinson at lock.

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                                                            • Duluth
                                                              Duluth last edited by

                                                              A very mobile pack

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                                                              • nzzp
                                                                nzzp @Kirwan last edited by

                                                                @Kirwan said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                @Duluth said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                Not on the Blues site yet, but this is on the official Aussie rugby site:

                                                                Alex Hodgman, Kurt Eklund, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, James Tucker, Tom Robinson, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii (c), Hoskins Sotutu, Finlay Christie, Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Rieko Ioane, Mark Telea, Stephen Perofeta

                                                                Reserves: Soana Vikena, Jordan Lay, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Adrian Choat, Sam Nock, Bryce Heem, Zarn Sullivan

                                                                I'm liking that team a lot. Glad they are giving Vikena another run, and I like Robinson at lock.

                                                                I do against the Reds; if the Saffers were still in the comp, I'd hate it. You need some power against those boys

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                                                                • Kirwan
                                                                  Kirwan @nzzp last edited by

                                                                  @nzzp said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                  @Kirwan said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                  @Duluth said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                  Not on the Blues site yet, but this is on the official Aussie rugby site:

                                                                  Alex Hodgman, Kurt Eklund, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, James Tucker, Tom Robinson, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii (c), Hoskins Sotutu, Finlay Christie, Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Rieko Ioane, Mark Telea, Stephen Perofeta

                                                                  Reserves: Soana Vikena, Jordan Lay, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Adrian Choat, Sam Nock, Bryce Heem, Zarn Sullivan

                                                                  I'm liking that team a lot. Glad they are giving Vikena another run, and I like Robinson at lock.

                                                                  I do against the Reds; if the Saffers were still in the comp, I'd hate it. You need some power against those boys

                                                                  Where are we losing power? Robinson? He's not small, and Romano is on the bench anyway.

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                                                                  • nzzp
                                                                    nzzp @Kirwan last edited by

                                                                    @Kirwan said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                    @nzzp said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                    @Kirwan said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                    @Duluth said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                    Not on the Blues site yet, but this is on the official Aussie rugby site:

                                                                    Alex Hodgman, Kurt Eklund, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, James Tucker, Tom Robinson, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii (c), Hoskins Sotutu, Finlay Christie, Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Rieko Ioane, Mark Telea, Stephen Perofeta

                                                                    Reserves: Soana Vikena, Jordan Lay, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Adrian Choat, Sam Nock, Bryce Heem, Zarn Sullivan

                                                                    I'm liking that team a lot. Glad they are giving Vikena another run, and I like Robinson at lock.

                                                                    I do against the Reds; if the Saffers were still in the comp, I'd hate it. You need some power against those boys

                                                                    Where are we losing power? Robinson? He's not small, and Romano is on the bench anyway.

                                                                    Robinson seems short and light for a lock to me. He's fine at Super, and against most packs, but he isn't a Patrick T/Brodie Retallick.

                                                                    Happy to be corrected if there are proper stats, but to me he looks light

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                                                                    • Kirwan
                                                                      Kirwan @nzzp last edited by

                                                                      @nzzp said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                      @Kirwan said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                      @nzzp said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                      @Kirwan said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                      @Duluth said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                      Not on the Blues site yet, but this is on the official Aussie rugby site:

                                                                      Alex Hodgman, Kurt Eklund, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, James Tucker, Tom Robinson, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii (c), Hoskins Sotutu, Finlay Christie, Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Rieko Ioane, Mark Telea, Stephen Perofeta

                                                                      Reserves: Soana Vikena, Jordan Lay, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Adrian Choat, Sam Nock, Bryce Heem, Zarn Sullivan

                                                                      I'm liking that team a lot. Glad they are giving Vikena another run, and I like Robinson at lock.

                                                                      I do against the Reds; if the Saffers were still in the comp, I'd hate it. You need some power against those boys

                                                                      Where are we losing power? Robinson? He's not small, and Romano is on the bench anyway.

                                                                      Robinson seems short and light for a lock to me. He's fine at Super, and against most packs, but he isn't a Patrick T/Brodie Retallick.

                                                                      Happy to be corrected if there are proper stats, but to me he looks light

                                                                      He seems to be five kgs lighter than the other lock options, but pretty much the same height as Tucker and Romano.

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                                                                      • KiwiMurph
                                                                        KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                        Strong side on paper.

                                                                        Not convinced they have the 10 and 15 around the right way on 2022 form.

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                                                                        • nzzp
                                                                          nzzp @Kirwan last edited by

                                                                          @Kirwan possibly more like 10-15kg against locks of the same height.

                                                                          I think Robinson is superb, but I'd be concerned about him being considered a front line lock. He's a great tall 6, or a stopgap lock for bench cover.

                                                                          Anyway, strong side, hope the Blues follow up with another strong performance.

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                                                                          • Kirwan
                                                                            Kirwan @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                            @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                            Strong side on paper.

                                                                            Not convinced they have the 10 and 15 around the right way on 2022 form.

                                                                            Perofeta has been good this year going forward, but BB has led the team well in the tougher matches. That contribution is being massively underated on the Fern.

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                                                                            • Duluth
                                                                              Duluth last edited by

                                                                              The team is confirmed on the Blues site now

                                                                              Only injured players are Plummer & Goodhue

                                                                              BLUES CHASE STRONG PERFORMANCE IN FINAL REGULAR SEASON CLASH AT EDEN PARK — Blues Rugby

                                                                              BLUES CHASE STRONG PERFORMANCE IN FINAL REGULAR SEASON CLASH AT EDEN PARK — Blues Rugby

                                                                              There is a relatively settled look to the Blues team for their final regular season clash in the DHL Super Rugby Pacific competition. They host the Queensland Reds at Eden Park on Saturday at 7.05pm, with the Australian visitors fully committed as they are in a fight with the Chiefs, Waratahs and

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                                                                              • Tim
                                                                                Tim last edited by

                                                                                Any news on when Goodhue might be back?

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                                                                                • Frank
                                                                                  Frank last edited by

                                                                                  For all the talk of Zarn Sullivan - it seems he plays 2nd string to Perofeta at fullback.

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                                                                                  • nzzp
                                                                                    nzzp @Frank last edited by

                                                                                    @Frank said in Blues v Reds:

                                                                                    For all the talk of Zarn Sullivan - it seems he plays 2nd string to Perofeta at fullback.

                                                                                    Perofeta's playing really good rugby at the moment. But yeah - a bit surprised to see Zarn struggling to break into the side.

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