@taniwharugby the inconsistent application of the laws by the SR refs and the general thuggery of the SR players (how many tip tackles have we seen now? all in the space of about three weeks) have killed off any chance of the 20 minute card getting up.
And we now see the ref is absolutely correct according to WR laws which is what the game is played under. Matera has not been cited because the tackle did not meet the red card threshold. It's probably not the inconsistency of the refs the probelm, but perhaps we see things differently on perhaps who we support etc.
And shows what I know I thought it was red, but after seeing replayes he lands on arm, then shoulder etc so not a red card. I not arguing whether it should be or not, but it was correct decision re the laws of game.
Ross rightly got props for his work at scrum time, but one thing which spider cam showed was how much Taukei’aho worked with him to overwhelm the TH. Impressive stuff when that was Tupou!
Must be one of first names down on AB team sheet.
Was bloody annoying that the ref pinged us heaps in in the first 15-20 minutes on 50/50 calls, so was hardly surprising the Reds went out to a pretty big lead in that period... at least after that the ref started to ping both sides.
Yeah it was a dodgy first 15 by the refs, I mean how the hell did they miss that crooked throw by the Reds? One of the worst misses I’ve ever seen. What made it worse was that the Reds gained a penalty a few phases later which got them on the front foot.
That's for sure, in the first quarter the ref let the Reds get away with a lot of stuff - gave them a huge advantage starving us of ball... from a penalty they could either have a crack at a 3pointer, or kick the ball out 40-50 metres downfield & then have the throw in to the lineout as well.
Odd one this. The decision is absolutely correct as far as the head contact protocols go but there is no messaging happening here to dissuade players charging into rucks and prone players with the shoulder. His arm was tucked at the side
Yeah, how good was O'Connor! Impressive performance.
O'Connor and Paisami were impressive. I was surprised how well Paisami stepped into first receiver. He has always been able to distribute but organising off 2nd/3rd phase ball was impressive. The shot he put on Mataele outside of the legality was Sam Tuitupou like.
And further, at the risk of ridicule, I still think the red was harsh.
It was understandable in terms of the protocol, but I still have reservations. To my mind he wasn't attempting a tackle, he ran into the line that the halfback was running, and there was resultant contact, made to look worse by slomo.
Okay, I'll bite. The red was fully deserved and very similar to that of Alex Hodgman, who got a 3-week suspension. If it was just an unfortunate collision while running into the same line as the Reds' halfback, he wouldn't have jumped and directed his left shoulder towards the halfback's upper body (I assume he intended to hit him in the chest or shoulder). If he was just running, he would have kept both his feet on the ground and ran straight. He would probably have braced for impact with his right arm; instead, he used his left shoulder.
I haven't read the entire thread, but I just would like to add that Weber deserves a Razzie for the worst actor. Faking to be shocked by the decision. 👎🏼
The other thing about that play with DMac going in like that, it also exposed a hole. Poor play all round.
I think they have changed the rules to avoid club games counting for a suspension.
This was one of the changes made ahead of the 2017 SR season:
In the determination of an incident and the handing down of any sanctions, the committee will now have the ability to exclude any regular season Super Rugby byes as part of a meaningful sanction. This is a significant change and will ensure all sanctions issued during Super Rugby are treated consistently across all teams.
Personally although I supported Reds ,I thought game was a little disappointing. A bit pissed that refs are missing laws of the game while trying these new variations. Much as I dislike saying it no way should our(Reds) first try of been allowed under the laws that say you can only take a ball by hand and not swim back. I hope that not coming back into our game.
This was heaps of fun. I think SuperAU has really hit it's stride, five of the last six games have been crackers.
The quality has been pretty good after a slow start
The matches tend to be more of a grind than the NZ comp. So if you aren’t supporting a team I can see why some neutrals find them dull.
Maybe. It's all in the eye of the beholder. I reckon if two NZ teams produced a game like Saturday it would be lauded as 'test match intensity' by some Aussie pundits who flog themselves at anything that comes out of your place.
A really good effort by the Reds, who have to be the best 1-5 team I've ever seen. They should have won though.
Their average age is 21 and it showed. They just needed a few cool heads to direct traffic in the Crusaders 22, too often they went the wrong way or let the attack stagnate and the D-line get set.
The goalkicking was abysmal and genuinely affected the game. I've never seen a pro kicker shank as many as Jock Campbell.
Harry Wilson and Lukhan S-Loto were two real standouts, as was Hunter Paisami. Really nice to see the next generation coming through. Combine these Reds youngsters with guys like Harrison and Bell at the Tahs, Lolesio and Valetini at the Brumbies and you've got a few potential Test stars running around.