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Cheating fucking Aussies.

@Bovidae said in Highlanders v Reds:

Super Rugby Pacific refereeing officials believe there was indeed foul play by the Highlanders in the tackle which broke the neck of Reds lock Connor Vest, but that it wasn’t Shannon Frizell at fault, and no yellow card was warranted.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/132180622/referees-admit-fault-in-brokenneck-tackle-but-shannon-frizell-in-the-clear

I don't see a single quote admitting fault. Quality Stuff journalism again.

@ploughboy said in Chiefs v Reds:

interesting moli only got time when ryan had hia

I thought that maybe because they needed to hold someone back on bench, there were getting to be a lot of injuries in their forwards.

@NTA said in Reds v Waratahs:

Shine has come off Harry Wilson. Needs to pick his moments better.

He still has next to no footwork - he just trucks the ball up straight into contact.

Watched bits of this. Very puzzled by refereeing at the tackle. Reds had immunity to take out anyone and come in from any angle. I know many refs are now tolerant and rarely pull up attackers but I thought this was extreme. Commentary was a bit ott so I fast forwarded a lot. Interesting to see how Reds go v NZ teams with this tactic.

@Stargazer said in Moana Pasifika v Reds:

... 80 minutes of high-intensity rugby in front of more than 15,000 home supporters ...

Hard to believe there were that many.

Apr 14  /  Pacific Moana Pasifika lose battle in Apia against Reds Moana Pasifika lose battle in Apia against Reds

In an historic Super Rugby Pacific game in Samoa, Moana Pasifika lost to the Queensland Reds 40-28 in their first ever home game at Apia Park on Friday.

80 minutes of high-intensity rugby

Hard to believe there was that much!

@KiwiMurph said in Reds v Brumbies:

@Dan54 said in Reds v Brumbies:

@KiwiMurph said in Reds v Brumbies:

Vintage Reds. Ill discipline and high error rate.

Yep what I have been watching at Suncorp when I was living there. They just slow learners it seems.

Time for a new voice at coach.

Yep even Thorn is saying it.

@SBW1 said in Reds v Crusaders:

@Chris Has Macca played Super rugby yet?

Yeah he came off the bench in Rd1 & Rd 2 against Chiefs and Highlanders started v Dura and off the bench v Blues.

Haha Vest with the knock on.

WTF?
That puts them above the Saders in the table.

@KiwiMurph said in Reds vs Hurricanes:

@Canes4life said in Reds vs Hurricanes:

@Bones said in Reds vs Hurricanes:

@cgrant Salesi probably did something ghastly for everything gold. Luckily it was only the Reds.

Yeah I felt Salesi was really up and down in that game aswell. He really needs to find some consistency in his game where he doesn't clock off in moments and stays switched on for the full 80.

He is who he is and it's been the same since he had the breakout season with Auckland back in 2018 - I wouldn't expect him to suddenly change now .

It definitely keeping him from pushing for higher honours. Fine if he’s happy being a Super player only but some of the mistakes he makes wouldnt cut it at the next level.

@Bones LOL

@Dan54 said in Crusaders. v Reds:

@Derpus said in Crusaders. v Reds:

@taniwharugby the inconsistent application of the laws by the SR refs and the general thuggery of the SR players (how many tip tackles have we seen now? all in the space of about three weeks) have killed off any chance of the 20 minute card getting up.

And we now see the ref is absolutely correct according to WR laws which is what the game is played under. Matera has not been cited because the tackle did not meet the red card threshold. It's probably not the inconsistency of the refs the probelm, but perhaps we see things differently on perhaps who we support etc.
And shows what I know I thought it was red, but after seeing replayes he lands on arm, then shoulder etc so not a red card. I not arguing whether it should be or not, but it was correct decision re the laws of game.

Yes perfectly summed up @Dan54

@Stargazer said in Reds v Moana Pasifika:

certainly their commentators are way more biased.

I wouldn't go that far.

@ACT-Crusader Yeah Eklund won't be getting a call up as good as he has been over the last few years.

@Damo said in Reds v Highlanders:

blimp

Clearly the badyear one and not the Goodyear.

Ross rightly got props for his work at scrum time, but one thing which spider cam showed was how much Taukei’aho worked with him to overwhelm the TH. Impressive stuff when that was Tupou!
Must be one of first names down on AB team sheet.

@Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Reds:

@NZbloke said in Hurricanes v Reds:

Was bloody annoying that the ref pinged us heaps in in the first 15-20 minutes on 50/50 calls, so was hardly surprising the Reds went out to a pretty big lead in that period... at least after that the ref started to ping both sides.

Yeah it was a dodgy first 15 by the refs, I mean how the hell did they miss that crooked throw by the Reds? One of the worst misses I’ve ever seen. What made it worse was that the Reds gained a penalty a few phases later which got them on the front foot.

That's for sure, in the first quarter the ref let the Reds get away with a lot of stuff - gave them a huge advantage starving us of ball... from a penalty they could either have a crack at a 3pointer, or kick the ball out 40-50 metres downfield & then have the throw in to the lineout as well.

Game was ok but QLD dropped away too much ball.

Was very light on the physicality after watching Crusaders Blues.

Tim Horan on deliberate knock on: 'If he had caught that, it wouldn't be a yellow card.'

Odd one this. The decision is absolutely correct as far as the head contact protocols go but there is no messaging happening here to dissuade players charging into rucks and prone players with the shoulder. His arm was tucked at the side

@african-monkey said in Reds v Drua:

@taniwharugby That miss on Petaia for that try was the worst attempt of a tackle i have seen in Pro rugby ever. I would have pulled him after that.

Mounga and Jordan say hi...

@old-samurai-jack said in Force v Reds:

Yeah, how good was O'Connor! Impressive performance.

O'Connor and Paisami were impressive. I was surprised how well Paisami stepped into first receiver. He has always been able to distribute but organising off 2nd/3rd phase ball was impressive. The shot he put on Mataele outside of the legality was Sam Tuitupou like.

I just saw the try the 10 bombed by ignoring the short pass and using hands, instead trying the hero ball that fucked all momentum and brought the only reds defender in to play

Reserve grade shit

Interesting tactics, whether it was the conditions or countering the rush defense, the Reds really attacked through the middle.
Salakaia-Loto and Wilson looked busy for Reds I thought.

@gt12 said in Hurricanes v Reds:

I didn’t comment on the penalty try, I commented on whether he should be given a YC.

In that position i.e. in-goal, you can't really have one without the other under the current framework.

@nzzp said in Reds vs Blues 2021:

@pakman looks more like an 8 to me 😃

Well, he did pass to Akira!

@stargazer said in Reds v Chiefs:

@booboo said in Reds v Chiefs:

And further, at the risk of ridicule, I still think the red was harsh.

It was understandable in terms of the protocol, but I still have reservations. To my mind he wasn't attempting a tackle, he ran into the line that the halfback was running, and there was resultant contact, made to look worse by slomo.

Fire away.

Okay, I'll bite. The red was fully deserved and very similar to that of Alex Hodgman, who got a 3-week suspension. If it was just an unfortunate collision while running into the same line as the Reds' halfback, he wouldn't have jumped and directed his left shoulder towards the halfback's upper body (I assume he intended to hit him in the chest or shoulder). If he was just running, he would have kept both his feet on the ground and ran straight. He would probably have braced for impact with his right arm; instead, he used his left shoulder.

I haven't read the entire thread, but I just would like to add that Weber deserves a Razzie for the worst actor. Faking to be shocked by the decision. 👎🏼

The other thing about that play with DMac going in like that, it also exposed a hole. Poor play all round.

@frank said in Reds v Crusaders:

In regard to the young loosehead prospects the Saders have.

What's Williams' mobility like?
Has the other one (the one with the bench press record beating Owen Franks) played any games yet?

Newell has had a few games too, they’ve both been excellent. One of the Canterbury guys can give you more details but both of them will wear black, I’m sure of that.

@derpus Hegarty was very pedestrian at 1st 5. Stifled momentum by just receiving the ball flat footed.

I thought Scott-Young toiled hard. Both halfbacks had their moments. I like the young kid that started at halfback, he’s got some talent, just needs to calm it down a bit.

Aaron Smith’s speed to the ruck and then clearance is still world class for an old fella....

Reds and Brumbies will be hard to beat esp. at home and judging by the refs' performances so far in both comps, it could really be a factor. Looking forward to the combined competition.

@bovidae said in Force v Reds:

I think they have changed the rules to avoid club games counting for a suspension.

This was one of the changes made ahead of the 2017 SR season:

In the determination of an incident and the handing down of any sanctions, the committee will now have the ability to exclude any regular season Super Rugby byes as part of a meaningful sanction. This is a significant change and will ensure all sanctions issued during Super Rugby are treated consistently across all teams.

News News

It seems the Judiciary in the recent cases in SR AU considers missing club rugby games as part of a "meaningful sanction", or the Juriciary Process introduced in 2017 is no longer applied.

@kiwimurph fair enough

@kiwimurph said in SR Australia Round 6: Waratahs v Reds:

@chris he's so small he's not a running threat either.

Yeah must be a better HB in Nsw

@nta I think it was a fair criticism of his last year but he seems to be putting in more of a shift this year. My main concern picking him for the Wallabies is a lack of lineout presence.