@Bones LOL

@Dan54 said in Crusaders. v Reds:

@Derpus said in Crusaders. v Reds:

@taniwharugby the inconsistent application of the laws by the SR refs and the general thuggery of the SR players (how many tip tackles have we seen now? all in the space of about three weeks) have killed off any chance of the 20 minute card getting up.

And we now see the ref is absolutely correct according to WR laws which is what the game is played under. Matera has not been cited because the tackle did not meet the red card threshold. It's probably not the inconsistency of the refs the probelm, but perhaps we see things differently on perhaps who we support etc.
And shows what I know I thought it was red, but after seeing replayes he lands on arm, then shoulder etc so not a red card. I not arguing whether it should be or not, but it was correct decision re the laws of game.

Yes perfectly summed up @Dan54

@Stargazer said in Reds v Moana Pasifika:

certainly their commentators are way more biased.

I wouldn't go that far.

@ACT-Crusader Yeah Eklund won't be getting a call up as good as he has been over the last few years.

@Damo said in Reds v Highlanders:

blimp

Clearly the badyear one and not the Goodyear.

Ross rightly got props for his work at scrum time, but one thing which spider cam showed was how much Taukei’aho worked with him to overwhelm the TH. Impressive stuff when that was Tupou!
Must be one of first names down on AB team sheet.

@Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Reds:

@NZbloke said in Hurricanes v Reds:

Was bloody annoying that the ref pinged us heaps in in the first 15-20 minutes on 50/50 calls, so was hardly surprising the Reds went out to a pretty big lead in that period... at least after that the ref started to ping both sides.

Yeah it was a dodgy first 15 by the refs, I mean how the hell did they miss that crooked throw by the Reds? One of the worst misses I’ve ever seen. What made it worse was that the Reds gained a penalty a few phases later which got them on the front foot.

That's for sure, in the first quarter the ref let the Reds get away with a lot of stuff - gave them a huge advantage starving us of ball... from a penalty they could either have a crack at a 3pointer, or kick the ball out 40-50 metres downfield & then have the throw in to the lineout as well.

Game was ok but QLD dropped away too much ball.

Was very light on the physicality after watching Crusaders Blues.

Tim Horan on deliberate knock on: 'If he had caught that, it wouldn't be a yellow card.'

Odd one this. The decision is absolutely correct as far as the head contact protocols go but there is no messaging happening here to dissuade players charging into rucks and prone players with the shoulder. His arm was tucked at the side

@african-monkey said in Reds v Drua:

@taniwharugby That miss on Petaia for that try was the worst attempt of a tackle i have seen in Pro rugby ever. I would have pulled him after that.

Mounga and Jordan say hi...

@old-samurai-jack said in Force v Reds:

Yeah, how good was O'Connor! Impressive performance.

O'Connor and Paisami were impressive. I was surprised how well Paisami stepped into first receiver. He has always been able to distribute but organising off 2nd/3rd phase ball was impressive. The shot he put on Mataele outside of the legality was Sam Tuitupou like.

I just saw the try the 10 bombed by ignoring the short pass and using hands, instead trying the hero ball that fucked all momentum and brought the only reds defender in to play

Reserve grade shit

Interesting tactics, whether it was the conditions or countering the rush defense, the Reds really attacked through the middle.
Salakaia-Loto and Wilson looked busy for Reds I thought.

@gt12 said in Hurricanes v Reds:

I didn’t comment on the penalty try, I commented on whether he should be given a YC.

In that position i.e. in-goal, you can't really have one without the other under the current framework.

@nzzp said in Reds vs Blues 2021:

@pakman looks more like an 8 to me 😃

Well, he did pass to Akira!

@stargazer said in Reds v Chiefs:

@booboo said in Reds v Chiefs:

And further, at the risk of ridicule, I still think the red was harsh.

It was understandable in terms of the protocol, but I still have reservations. To my mind he wasn't attempting a tackle, he ran into the line that the halfback was running, and there was resultant contact, made to look worse by slomo.

Fire away.

Okay, I'll bite. The red was fully deserved and very similar to that of Alex Hodgman, who got a 3-week suspension. If it was just an unfortunate collision while running into the same line as the Reds' halfback, he wouldn't have jumped and directed his left shoulder towards the halfback's upper body (I assume he intended to hit him in the chest or shoulder). If he was just running, he would have kept both his feet on the ground and ran straight. He would probably have braced for impact with his right arm; instead, he used his left shoulder.

I haven't read the entire thread, but I just would like to add that Weber deserves a Razzie for the worst actor. Faking to be shocked by the decision. 👎🏼

The other thing about that play with DMac going in like that, it also exposed a hole. Poor play all round.

@frank said in Reds v Crusaders:

In regard to the young loosehead prospects the Saders have.

What's Williams' mobility like?
Has the other one (the one with the bench press record beating Owen Franks) played any games yet?

Newell has had a few games too, they’ve both been excellent. One of the Canterbury guys can give you more details but both of them will wear black, I’m sure of that.

@derpus Hegarty was very pedestrian at 1st 5. Stifled momentum by just receiving the ball flat footed.

I thought Scott-Young toiled hard. Both halfbacks had their moments. I like the young kid that started at halfback, he’s got some talent, just needs to calm it down a bit.

Aaron Smith’s speed to the ruck and then clearance is still world class for an old fella....

Reds and Brumbies will be hard to beat esp. at home and judging by the refs' performances so far in both comps, it could really be a factor. Looking forward to the combined competition.

@bovidae said in Force v Reds:

I think they have changed the rules to avoid club games counting for a suspension.

This was one of the changes made ahead of the 2017 SR season:

In the determination of an incident and the handing down of any sanctions, the committee will now have the ability to exclude any regular season Super Rugby byes as part of a meaningful sanction. This is a significant change and will ensure all sanctions issued during Super Rugby are treated consistently across all teams.

News - Super Rugby News - Super Rugby

It seems the Judiciary in the recent cases in SR AU considers missing club rugby games as part of a "meaningful sanction", or the Juriciary Process introduced in 2017 is no longer applied.

@kiwimurph fair enough

@kiwimurph said in SR Australia Round 6: Waratahs v Reds:

@chris he's so small he's not a running threat either.

Yeah must be a better HB in Nsw

@nta I think it was a fair criticism of his last year but he seems to be putting in more of a shift this year. My main concern picking him for the Wallabies is a lack of lineout presence.

@machpants said in SR Australia Round 4: Brumbies v Reds:

@nevorian said in SR Australia Round 4: Brumbies v Reds:

@machpants said in SR Australia Round 4: Brumbies v Reds:

@nevorian said in SR Australia Round 4: Brumbies v Reds:

@machpants said in SR Australia Round 4: Brumbies v Reds:

@nevorian said in SR Australia Round 4: Brumbies v Reds:

yep some good rugby by both. Looking like it could be an even more improved Wallaby team this year

as long as they don't fill it with under performing players from some other franchise

Would only expect Hooper out of the Tahs and Force combined

Hooper doesn't play for either this season lol

Oops forgot he is in Japan but still available for the Wobblies?

Yeah I think so, like the ABs over there

Think we have enough guys playing their hands up.

@kiwimurph said in SR Australia Round 2: Reds v Rebels:

That was a good game.

Personally although I supported Reds ,I thought game was a little disappointing. A bit pissed that refs are missing laws of the game while trying these new variations. Much as I dislike saying it no way should our(Reds) first try of been allowed under the laws that say you can only take a ball by hand and not swim back. I hope that not coming back into our game.

@nta Swinton will definitely help. Harris at 6 was anonymous.

I wonder what's going to happen with captaincy with Gordon presumably out - Sinclair seemed to take over the captaincy but he was off the bench - does Sinclair start at 8?

@akan004 said in SR AU Final - Brumbies v Reds:

My Aussie friend is convinced that SRAU is more physical than SRA and the defences are better. I haven't watched a lot of SRAU so I can't comment. Any truth to this?

Aussies playing to their traditional strengths?

@booboo geez that was easy. You said you don't care what nationality he is, whilst calling him a mercenary...

Reds finding plenty of space

18-0

@Duluth said in Reds v Rebels:

@barbarian said in Reds v Rebels:

This was heaps of fun. I think SuperAU has really hit it's stride, five of the last six games have been crackers.

The quality has been pretty good after a slow start

The matches tend to be more of a grind than the NZ comp. So if you aren’t supporting a team I can see why some neutrals find them dull.

Maybe. It's all in the eye of the beholder. I reckon if two NZ teams produced a game like Saturday it would be lauded as 'test match intensity' by some Aussie pundits who flog themselves at anything that comes out of your place.

Wow only 45-12 talk about going to sleep glad I didn’t stay up to watch the 2nd half...not that I would’ve of course

That's a bullshit penalty to lose a game. The Brumbies player drove the Reds player back into the scrumhalf. But the Reds did everything they could to lose that in the last five minutes.

Definitely no facial expressions.

Why not? This comp is now a bit of an experiment, so may as well throw some minor law changes in there too.

The concept behind extra time is sound, as draws are pointless in a pointless comp. May as well find a winner.

The issue is the way the attacking team is now being officiated it's not advisable to have the ball in your own half at any stage. So it's kick to kick to kick until a team makes an error.

@barbarian I'm with you till the last bit. They only got half the known crowd size. Now they've got a win, the crowds might start coming back.

@Duluth said in Reds v Bulls:

@MajorRage said in Reds v Bulls:

Liam Wright looks a top talent. Aussie procession of 7's continues. Smith - Pocock - Wright.

Wilson looks good too. That’s even better news for Aussie rugby. They’ve struggled to find an 8 for a while

Absolute unit. Should be Wallaby 8 for a decade

A really good effort by the Reds, who have to be the best 1-5 team I've ever seen. They should have won though.

Their average age is 21 and it showed. They just needed a few cool heads to direct traffic in the Crusaders 22, too often they went the wrong way or let the attack stagnate and the D-line get set.

The goalkicking was abysmal and genuinely affected the game. I've never seen a pro kicker shank as many as Jock Campbell.

Harry Wilson and Lukhan S-Loto were two real standouts, as was Hunter Paisami. Really nice to see the next generation coming through. Combine these Reds youngsters with guys like Harrison and Bell at the Tahs, Lolesio and Valetini at the Brumbies and you've got a few potential Test stars running around.