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    • Duluth
      Duluth last edited by Duluth

      So what changes are likely?

      Even if R Ioane's hamstring strain is minor it's worth making sure he's 100%. So Heem to start at 13.
      Tele'a as midfield cover on the bench? Does that mean no room for AJ again?

      Romano to return at lock alongside Tucker? Robinson is too good to be out of the 23, so no specialist lock on the bench. That allows them to have Robinson and an openside (Choat) on the bench

      Anything else?

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      • nzzp
        nzzp @Duluth last edited by

        @Duluth Prioritise the scrum. Needs best scrummagers I reckon - probably Nepo, Ofa and Kurt, with Tucker and Romano.

        Loosies pick themselves.

        Rieko if fit, if not Heem (as you say).

        You know what hte Brumbies are going to bring, the question is if you are focussed and committed enough to handle it and strike back effectively.

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        • Tim
          Tim last edited by

          When was Goodhue due back?

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          • Duluth
            Duluth @nzzp last edited by

            @nzzp said in Brumbies v Blues:

            You know what hte Brumbies are going to bring, the question is if you are focussed and committed enough to handle it and strike back effectively.

            Discipline should be the main focus this week. Blues have been giving away some soft penalties in the last few weeks. Need to deny the Brumbies attacking lineouts

            The Brumbies look shit hot with front foot ball. Win the contact and they can look a bit flakey (yes, you can say that about every side, but the Brumbies really rely on getting a roll on)

            I'm confident we can win the contact.. less confident about the the penalties

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            • Duluth
              Duluth last edited by Duluth

              It won't happen, but I wouldn't mind seeing a Papali'i/Ioane/Robinson trio

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              • Duluth
                Duluth @Tim last edited by

                @Tim said in Brumbies v Blues:

                When was Goodhue due back?

                @Steven-Harris said 6-8 weeks when it happened. That was 4 weeks ago

                So QF if he recovers quick?

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                • Bovidae
                  Bovidae last edited by

                  The Brumbies will be a different team if Lolesio and Valetini are back.

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                  • booboo
                    booboo @nzzp last edited by

                    @nzzp said in Brumbies v Blues:

                    @Duluth Prioritise the scrum. Needs best scrummagers I reckon - probably Nepo, Ofa and Kurt, with Tucker and Romano.

                    Loosies pick themselves.

                    Rieko if fit, if not Heem (as you say).

                    You know what hte Brumbies are going to bring, the question is if you are focussed and committed enough to handle it and strike back effectively.

                    Two x tightheads?

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                    • gt12
                      gt12 @booboo last edited by

                      @booboo said in Brumbies v Blues:

                      @nzzp said in Brumbies v Blues:

                      @Duluth Prioritise the scrum. Needs best scrummagers I reckon - probably Nepo, Ofa and Kurt, with Tucker and Romano.

                      Loosies pick themselves.

                      Rieko if fit, if not Heem (as you say).

                      You know what hte Brumbies are going to bring, the question is if you are focussed and committed enough to handle it and strike back effectively.

                      Two x tightheads?

                      I assume moving Ofa to LH?

                      I wouldn't do that as they'll need both of them to counter the LHs (start, bench) of the Brumbies.

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                      • number9
                        number9 @nzzp last edited by

                        @nzzp Ofa to LH sounds like you are panicking. I would go Karl and Nepo to start and bring Ofa and Hodgman off the bench. The Brumbies go for the slow grind up front in the first half and try and finish strong in the second. Bringing Ofa and Hodgman in the last 30 minutes would help dominate at the contact. And speed the gane right up.

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                        • nzzp
                          nzzp @number9 last edited by

                          @number9 not panicking, just having a screw up. Listed two TH instead of TH + LH ... thinking of our two most reliable scrummagers.

                          As you were team, my fark up

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                          • Kruse
                            Kruse @nzzp last edited by

                            @nzzp said in Brumbies v Blues:

                            @number9 not panicking, just having a screw up. Listed two TH instead of TH + LH ... thinking of our two most reliable scrummagers.

                            As you were team, my fark up

                            Ban this fluffybunny.
                            Or - man up, refuse to admit that you made a tiny honest mistake, and double-down on it.
                            Find some Rippa Rugby game where he played LH, and insist it's the right move.

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                            • nzzp
                              nzzp @Kruse last edited by

                              @Kruse said in Brumbies v Blues:

                              Find some Rippa Rugby game where he played LH, and insist it's the right move.

                              He'd make a better 8 than Hayman!

                              You're right though, not the Fern way. Revised pack below.

                              Nepo + Ofa (Ofa covers both)
                              Papali'i at hooker (can do anything)
                              Luke Romano + Ian Jones at lock (coming out of retirement; need the height for the lineout)
                              Clarke at 7 - like his explosiveness
                              Akira and Hos

                              Counters the Brumbies incliation to mix it up; speed around the ruck crucial, with an extra loosie literally in the pack. Simple eh

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                              • ACT Crusader
                                ACT Crusader @Duluth last edited by

                                @Duluth said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                It won't happen, but I wouldn't mind seeing a Papali'i/Ioane/Robinson trio

                                What about Paps/Robinson/Sotutu with Ioane off the bench? I reckon Sotutu’s running game might be a key difference against this Brumbies team.

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                                • ACT Crusader
                                  ACT Crusader @nzzp last edited by

                                  @nzzp said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                  @Kruse said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                  Find some Rippa Rugby game where he played LH, and insist it's the right move.

                                  He'd make a better 8 than Hayman!

                                  You're right though, not the Fern way. Revised pack below.

                                  Nepo + Ofa (Ofa covers both)
                                  Papali'i at hooker (can do anything)
                                  Luke Romano + Ian Jones at lock (coming out of retirement; need the height for the lineout)
                                  Clarke at 7 - like his explosiveness
                                  Akira and Hos

                                  Counters the Brumbies incliation to mix it up; speed around the ruck crucial, with an extra loosie literally in the pack. Simple eh

                                  Was it the Moana Pasifika hooker that started at openside on the weekend?

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                                  • Duluth
                                    Duluth @ACT Crusader last edited by

                                    @ACT-Crusader

                                    There's lots of good trios you could make. Ioane's ability to hold people up in defence should be useful against this team

                                    I like the idea of picking the most powerful pack early and then finishing with Choat & Sotutu subbing on, plus Robinson at lock

                                    It won't happen though. It seems their priority is sticking with combinations now

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                                    • KiwiMurph
                                      KiwiMurph @Bovidae last edited by

                                      @Bovidae said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                      The Brumbies will be a different team if Lolesio and Valetini are back.

                                      From what I understand Valetini is out for a few weeks.

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                                      • Chris
                                        Chris @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                        @KiwiMurph said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                        @Bovidae said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                        The Brumbies will be a different team if Lolesio and Valetini are back.

                                        From what I understand Valetini is out for a few weeks.

                                        Is he ?,I thought I heard the Aussie commentary team mention during the Crusaders v Brumbies game they were hoping to have him back this week.
                                        I wondered if that was an option of that early a return Hammys usually are 2 weeks for a minor strain.

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                                        • KiwiMurph
                                          KiwiMurph @Chris last edited by

                                          @Chris I think it was Lolesio they were hoping would only be out a week.

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                                          • antipodean
                                            antipodean last edited by

                                            Of the two, Valentini is by far the biggest loss. He's having a stormer of a season.

                                            Wallabies will look much better if he and Harry Wilson carry their form into the Test season.

                                            I'll be at the game, hoping the Blues thump the Brumbies 'cause I'll be surrounded by Brumbies fans.

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                                            • Tim
                                              Tim last edited by

                                              https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/event/1410285/rugby-union/super-rugby/super-rugby-pacific/brumbies-v-blues

                                              Brumbies $2.90
                                              Blues $1.37

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                                              • nzzp
                                                nzzp last edited by

                                                May 16, 2022  /  Sport

                                                Super Rugby Pacific: Injury rules Blues star Rieko Ioane out until playoffs | Newshub

                                                Super Rugby Pacific: Injury rules Blues star Rieko Ioane out until playoffs | Newshub

                                                Brother Akira Ioane will also spend a week on the sidelines.

                                                Stink.

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                                                • TheMojoman
                                                  TheMojoman @nzzp last edited by TheMojoman

                                                  @nzzp said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                                  May 16, 2022  /  Sport

                                                  Super Rugby Pacific: Injury rules Blues star Rieko Ioane out until playoffs | Newshub

                                                  Super Rugby Pacific: Injury rules Blues star Rieko Ioane out until playoffs | Newshub

                                                  Brother Akira Ioane will also spend a week on the sidelines.

                                                  Stink.

                                                  Crap. The team has been playing so well we can cover with Heem but it would be nice to continue to build the RTS/Reiko combo and to have the additional strike power outwide.

                                                  Discipline and accuracy will be absolutely key. If Blues are undisciplined, Brumbies will punish them - kick to corner and rolling maul from lineout or milk more penalties.

                                                  Blues have been able to get away with being a little sloppy because Rebels/Reds have not been good enough to capitalise/punish them but the Brumbies are the real deal.

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                                                  • D
                                                    Derpus @TheMojoman last edited by

                                                    @TheMojoman pretty sure the Blues didn't concede a single penalty in the second half of last match?

                                                    Blues have been great. Bigger, stronger, faster and more disciplined than anyone else. If the Brumbies are still missing key players it should be blues by 15+

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                                                    • KiwiMurph
                                                      KiwiMurph @nzzp last edited by

                                                      @nzzp hamstrings are notoriously niggly so I think it's good news if he can truly be back for the quarter final.

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                                                      • Machpants
                                                        Machpants last edited by Machpants

                                                        Noiones

                                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300590940/super-rugby-pacific-ioane-brothers-set-to-miss-blues-visit-to-act-brumbies

                                                        Big Red is the anti-frizzle

                                                        Akira’s absence this week will likely mean versatile Blues forward Tom Robinson will slot back into No 6 to face the Brumbies. If so, the hard-nosed Northlander told Stuff he will be ready after deputising in the second row for the last two matches.

                                                        “I like it in there,” said Robinson of his shift to second-row duties. “You’re in the thick of it. In our system the 6 is often on the edge on attack and defence, so sometimes you’re not involved in a whole lot of the action. It’s something I really enjoy, getting stuck in, doing the dirty work.

                                                        “But wherever I need to be for the team, I’ll happily play.”

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                                                        • Bones
                                                          Bones @TheMojoman last edited by

                                                          @TheMojoman the good thing being Heem is a pretty like-for-like replacement.

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                                                          • Bovidae
                                                            Bovidae last edited by

                                                            Damon Murphy is the ref. This could be fun.

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                                                            • Crazy Horse
                                                              Crazy Horse @Bones last edited by

                                                              @Bones said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                                              @TheMojoman the good thing being Heem is a pretty like-for-like replacement.

                                                              I wouldn't call Heem pretty, but each to their own. I am not one to judge.

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                                                              • Bones
                                                                Bones @Crazy Horse last edited by

                                                                @Crazy-Horse said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                                                @Bones said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                                                @TheMojoman the good thing being Heem is a pretty like-for-like replacement.

                                                                I wouldn't call Heem pretty, but each to their own. I am not one to judge.

                                                                How the other half live eh

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                                                                • F
                                                                  Frye last edited by

                                                                  Ofa being touted as the first choice All Blacks tighthead I'd really like to see him start both this match and next week against 2 very good scrums.

                                                                  I want to see him continue his form and really nail that position down.

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                                                                  • Duluth
                                                                    Duluth last edited by Duluth

                                                                    Brumbies

                                                                    Scott Sio, Folau Fainga’a, Allan Alaalatoa (c), Darcy Swain, Caderyn Neville, Tom Hooper, Luke Reimer, Pete Samu, Nic White, Noah Lolesio, Andy Muirhead, Irae Simone, Len Ikitau, Tom Wright, Tom Banks

                                                                    Reserves: Billy Pollard, James Slipper, Sefo Kautai, Nick Frost, Rory Scott, Ryan Lonergan, Hudson Creighton, Ollie Sapsford

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                                                                    • Daffy Jaffy
                                                                      Daffy Jaffy @Duluth last edited by

                                                                      @Duluth The Brumbies site has Sio starting with Slipper on the bench.

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                                                                      • Duluth
                                                                        Duluth @Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                                                                        @Daffy-Jaffy

                                                                        Thanks I’ve fixed the post now

                                                                        Rugby.com.au seems to have a few mistakes this week

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                                                                        • Daffy Jaffy
                                                                          Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                                                                          With Akira out this week they are likely to move Robinson to 6 and bring Romano in to start. I kinda wish they would Trust Plumtree to start at 6 in this game. He has been excellent when given chances but must be getting frustrated by now at not making the 23 even when All Blacks are rested or injured. I would like to have seen him, Suafoa, Evans, JRK etc gat a few more chances. One of my favourite things about how the team has been going this year is how the squaddies/rookies have performed when called upon to play. E.g. Jordan Lay has been good enough to now keep Big Karl on the bench and may even join his injured brother James in next years squad unless they choose to promote young Fisitua. Most of the concern on here around this years squad naming was about the weakness at lock, but they have all played so well that lock has been a strength (a few lineout wobbles aside). Goodhue was our number one lock, playing well early on but it will be difficult to find space for him when he returns from injury. Even young Darry who I wasn't sure about by NPC form has gone well, working hard and throwing himself about with impact. I see they are returning to Auckland post this game rather than go straight to Sydney. I guess the ideal plan is win this game , secure top spot then send a B team over to play the Tahs while most of the 1st xv stay home to prep for the Landers!

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                                                                          • Duluth
                                                                            Duluth @Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                                                                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                                                            I see they are returning to Auckland post this game rather than go straight to Sydney. I guess the ideal plan is win this game , secure top spot then send a B team over to play the Tahs while most of the 1st xv stay home to prep for the Landers!

                                                                            Can't find it now but MacDonald made comments about wanting to keep the full squad together. Staying in Aussie would've meant working with a smaller group next week

                                                                            If they win this week, I still think the team against the Tahs will be strong. Maybe one or two players with heavy workloads rested. Momentum and combinations are too important

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                                                                            • Crucial
                                                                              Crucial @Duluth last edited by

                                                                              @Duluth said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                                                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Brumbies v Blues:

                                                                              I see they are returning to Auckland post this game rather than go straight to Sydney. I guess the ideal plan is win this game , secure top spot then send a B team over to play the Tahs while most of the 1st xv stay home to prep for the Landers!

                                                                              Can't find it now but MacDonald made comments about wanting to keep the full squad together. Staying in Aussie would've meant working with a smaller group next week

                                                                              If they win this week, I still think the team against the Tahs will be strong. Maybe one or two players with heavy workloads rested. Momentum and combinations are too important

                                                                              Yeah, he said that a small group 'on tour' would disrupt the training week processes that had been working well for them where they can have opposed runs using the full squad.

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                                                                              • Tim
                                                                                Tim last edited by

                                                                                Rugby AU has this team on their site, but have been known to make mistakes?

                                                                                BLUES (1-15): Alex Hodgman, Kurt Eklund, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, James Tucker, Sam Darry, Tom Robinson, Dalton Papalii (c), Hoskins Sotutu, Finlay Christie, Beauden Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Bryce Heem, Mark Telea, Stephen Perofeta

                                                                                RESERVES: Ricky Riccitelli, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Anton Segner, Sam Nock, Tanielu Tele'a, Zarn Sullivan

                                                                                Nathan Williamson  /  May 18, 2022

                                                                                Super Rugby Pacific Teams: All the team news for Round 14 | Latest Rugby News | RUGBY.com.au

                                                                                Super Rugby Pacific Teams: All the team news for Round 14 | Latest Rugby News | RUGBY.com.au

                                                                                Check out all the details for the Super Rugby Pacific teams for round 14 as they drop

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                                                                                • Tim
                                                                                  Tim last edited by Tim

                                                                                  Huge game for Darry, if that's the team.

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                                                                                  • number9
                                                                                    number9 @Tim last edited by

                                                                                    @Tim I don't know about Ricitelli? I thought Vikena played well off the bench. And RR throwing is not at Super level. I would have had Plumtree off the bench instead of Segner would provide greater impact although he has not played.

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