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  • MN5M Offline
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    @junior said in The Current State of Rugby:

    @MajorRage said in The Current State of Rugby:

    @NTA said in The Current State of Rugby:

    When the game threatened to be overtaken by roid munching freaks they brought in things like 6 again to help speed it up and make it more about fitness. That's something Rugby needs to look at because players north of 120kg are becoming too frequent.

    Couldn’t agree more Nick.

    Half the players don’t even look like people, let alone athletes.

    Couldn't agree more - I saw a Twitter / X exchange earlier this week where someone mentioned something about the Boks being able to replace their entire tight 5 by bringing on 5 "mutants" at halftime. A jaapie chap responded by pointing out that Oz, Nyakane and Mbonambi are all 175cm or under. Not sure if this is true, but it simply highlights the point the original poster was making - a 175cm tall human being should not be weighing in at over 120kg - this is more mutant than a guy who's 6 foot 11.

    Sounds like you need to visit Porirua for a dose of reality

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  • sparkyS Do not disturb
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    @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

    N I like you and you know that

    But that is shit the Sydney private school piston wristed gibbons that you hate tell themselves to feel superior to to the western Sydney bogans

    Rugby union has lost its way

    And even if I am wrong, it 8s most certainly not the sport I played a little over a decade ago

    The Rugby World Cup is the third biggest international sporting event in world behind the Olympics and the Football World Cup.

    The sport keeps growing and growing and growing.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

    @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

    N I like you and you know that

    But that is shit the Sydney private school piston wristed gibbons that you hate tell themselves to feel superior to to the western Sydney bogans

    Rugby union has lost its way

    And even if I am wrong, it 8s most certainly not the sport I played a little over a decade ago

    The Rugby World Cup is the third biggest international sporting event in world behind the Olympics and the Football World Cup.

    The sport keeps growing and growing and growing.

    I'm sorry but this is complete bullshit

    The RWC is not in the top 10 sporting events for either revenue or viewership

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  • sparkyS Do not disturb
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    @mariner4life

    Sauce: https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/about/growth

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #1104

    That's no a source

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

    And even if I am wrong, it 8s most certainly not the sport I played a little over a decade ago

    The professional game has been moving away from the rest of us for years. Because money.

    That has been going on for - literally - decades, and has always been inferior based on your reasoning when compared to league.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @Steve said in The Current State of Rugby:

    Cut out the nit picky refereeing.

    "Review the Law book" is what you're saying.

    That definitely needs to happen. There is a bunch of technical stuff we could throw away and improve the game.

    It isn't going to stop cheating though, or even mitigate it, until you get down to having about a dozen Laws and a restriction on how many players can enter a ruck.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @mariner4life this one has it 6th

    https://sportsbrief.com/other-sports/40039-which-watched-sporting-event-world/

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    @taniwharugby

    Right behind the Women's football WC final. It's a better source, and basically makes mariners point.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @NTA said in The Current State of Rugby:

    That has been going on for - literally - decades, and has always been inferior based on your reasoning when compared to league.

    Example: I was at a game of Test Rugby one time, and a couple of locals - league fans - had come along for a look.

    I spent the game talking to them and explaining decisions. Some of them I couldn't because I missed the referee's signal.

    That was RWC 2003. WIN Stadium in Wollongong for Canda v Tonga. Twenty years ago.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    Rugby league is a niche sport. It’s not that great and will never grow. Rugby will continue to grow.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @gt12 I wasnt trying to prove/disprove anything, just providing a slightly more independent link

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    @taniwharugby

    Apologies, wasn't trying to suggest you supported one position or another.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    was away for the weekend so only managed to watch the AB's, snuck out of the room and watched my phone....when i got home last night the only game i watched was Otago v Northland....and i enjoyed it more, seeing teams actually building +15 phases is good rugby for me...doesnt need to be the absolute highest actual skill, plenty of fun to be had playing the basics of rugby...ive said before i think my actual enjoyment is inversely proportional to the level

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    @Kiwiwomble said in The Current State of Rugby:

    .ive said before i think my actual enjoyment is inversely proportional to the level

    Often true - I love watching suburban footy because I can relate to it more. Same as I love seeing reserve props come on from Chile or Namibia because they're big fat bastards with a day job. Relateable 😉

    Doesn't always have to be that way. The Australia A v Japan series last year was a bloody good set of games, with nothing on the line but trying to prove a point: that you're worth of higher honours.

    @mariner4life is right in some aspects about rugby being more like NFL than NRL: there are a lot of people more afraid of making mistakes than willing to take a chance.

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

    @sparky said in The Current State of Rugby:

    @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

    N I like you and you know that

    But that is shit the Sydney private school piston wristed gibbons that you hate tell themselves to feel superior to to the western Sydney bogans

    Rugby union has lost its way

    And even if I am wrong, it 8s most certainly not the sport I played a little over a decade ago

    The Rugby World Cup is the third biggest international sporting event in world behind the Olympics and the Football World Cup.

    The sport keeps growing and growing and growing.

    I'm sorry but this is complete bullshit

    The RWC is not in the top 10 sporting events for either revenue or viewership

    https://www.totalsportal.com/list/biggest-sports-tournaments/

    8 Rugby Union World Cup $10 million 857 Million

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in The Current State of Rugby:

    With all due respect I call bullshit Nick

    The defence was high quality but was beaten with pace and shape. And then fatigue when half3the team didn't get half the game off

    I just watched the game due to the hype in this thread (and due to the fact Kayo don't have the extended highlights available). The defence was shit. That doesn't take away from it being an exciting game but there were lots of soft misses.

    It's actually made me feel more confident that the Warriors can stop the Knights roll next week. (Well assuming Webster remembers that props exist).

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  • NTAN Offline
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    #1117

    Back to France: wondering to what degree the heat is hindering some teams, and what effect it'll play in the second round. The teams who lie in wait - Uruguay, Tonga, Portugal, Samoa - will benefit from not having bashed themselves to date in 30+

    Next weekend will be mid/high 20s, and then by the week after it'll be back in the teens.

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  • sparkyS Do not disturb
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    #1118

    The first weekend of the Rugby World Cup was spectacular and a great range of styles on offer from different teams.

    Two moans:

    1. Disappointed at how poor the AB’s set piece and decision-making was.

    2. I wish the games were done from kick off to final whistle inside two hours.

    Apart from that, great entertainment.

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 1: Wales v Fiji:

    Had to go radio silence otherwise I would have been banned

    Was on a lovely little buzz until the 60th minute where Wales were comfortably in charge of the match

    Watched the match in Cardiff Rugby Club and it was a great atmosphere

    Last 20 minutes felt like I’d been in / witnessed an accident and I sobered up pretty quickly

    Thrilling, infuriating, exhausting

    After walking the dog I opened up a bottle of red and watched it again

    Carley was absolutely atrocious and should be stood down

    Not the required standard for the RWC

    Despite his inadequacies Fiji still had the opportunity to win the match but blew it

    That’s not Carley’s fault

    Should Elias have been YCarded and Fiji awarded a Penalty Try?

    Yes

    Should Biggar have been YCarded?

    Yes

    However, prior to Biggar’s offside the Fijians had dummied a tap & go and Carley had called them back and said you can’t dummy and move players

    They retook it and did the same thing and Carley waved play on

    Penalty Wales

    What no one has talked about and no one has criticised is that prior to both Fiji’s 3rd and 4th tries the Fijian hooker popped out of the scrum

    That’s an automatic penalty to Wales negating both Fijian tries

    We’re Fiji hard done by?
    Yes

    But so too were Wales

    Great game of rugby
    Better side just won

    Wanna know the state of the game?

    Mike has summed it up perfectly here.

    Easily the game of the round, and certainly a world cup classic.

    First post about it from the biggest Welsh fan is roughly

    1/3 talking about the atmosphere / intensity / match
    1/3 talking about cards
    1/3 talking about the referee

    This shouldn't be.

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