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    Australia v England - the decider

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    • Catogrande
      Catogrande last edited by Duluth

      Another one bites the dust. Underhill out of contention with concussion. We must be nearly level with Aussie on injuries/unavailabilities now. Maybe not.

      So our two specialist 7s have bitten the dust, meanwhile Hooper continues and will be a menace at the breakdown. Eddie has to roll the dice and I'm guessing he will go with a Ludlam at 7 and Willis on the bench, which to be honest is about as good as we could hope for. Starting locks will hopefully be Hill the Hair Puller and Chessum and please, please, please anyone but Ewels on the bench. Isiekwe I'd guess (hope).

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      • MiketheSnow
        MiketheSnow @Catogrande last edited by

        @Catogrande said in Australia v England - the decider:

        Another one bites the dust. Underhill out of contention with concussion. We must be nearly level with Aussie on injuries/unavailabilities now. Maybe not.

        So our two specialist 7s have bitten the dust, meanwhile Hooper continues and will be a menace at the breakdown. Eddie has to roll the dice and I'm guessing he will go with a Ludlam at 7 and Willis on the bench, which to be honest is about as good as we could hope for. Starting locks will hopefully be Hill the Hair Puller and Chessum and please, please, please anyone but Ewels on the bench. Isiekwe I'd guess (hope).

        Itoje?

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        • mariner4life
          mariner4life last edited by

          While the rugby hasn't been exactly champagne this has been a bloody good, bloody tough series and this Saturday should be awesome

          Both teams flying in replacements left right and centre

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          • antipodean
            antipodean last edited by

            When I agreed to go to this, I mistakenly thought the new stadium was complete. Instead I'll be squinting at ants running around 100m away.

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            • ACT Crusader
              ACT Crusader last edited by

              A low scoring coin toss in this.

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              • Catogrande
                Catogrande @MiketheSnow last edited by

                @MiketheSnow said in Australia v England - the decider:

                @Catogrande said in Australia v England - the decider:

                Another one bites the dust. Underhill out of contention with concussion. We must be nearly level with Aussie on injuries/unavailabilities now. Maybe not.

                So our two specialist 7s have bitten the dust, meanwhile Hooper continues and will be a menace at the breakdown. Eddie has to roll the dice and I'm guessing he will go with a Ludlam at 7 and Willis on the bench, which to be honest is about as good as we could hope for. Starting locks will hopefully be Hill the Hair Puller and Chessum and please, please, please anyone but Ewels on the bench. Isiekwe I'd guess (hope).

                Itoje?

                Goooneee. Concussion. That's him, Curry and Underhill missing for the same issue. Aus have had similar problems too.

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                • MiketheSnow
                  MiketheSnow @Catogrande last edited by

                  @Catogrande said in Australia v England - the decider:

                  @MiketheSnow said in Australia v England - the decider:

                  @Catogrande said in Australia v England - the decider:

                  Another one bites the dust. Underhill out of contention with concussion. We must be nearly level with Aussie on injuries/unavailabilities now. Maybe not.

                  So our two specialist 7s have bitten the dust, meanwhile Hooper continues and will be a menace at the breakdown. Eddie has to roll the dice and I'm guessing he will go with a Ludlam at 7 and Willis on the bench, which to be honest is about as good as we could hope for. Starting locks will hopefully be Hill the Hair Puller and Chessum and please, please, please anyone but Ewels on the bench. Isiekwe I'd guess (hope).

                  Itoje?

                  Goooneee. Concussion. That's him, Curry and Underhill missing for the same issue. Aus have had similar problems too.

                  Ta

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                  • MiketheSnow
                    MiketheSnow last edited by

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                    Can't see Eddie dropping Smith

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                    • Catogrande
                      Catogrande @MiketheSnow last edited by

                      @MiketheSnow

                      Yeah I doubt he will drop Smith and he will definitely start Ludlam over Willis.

                      RA's selection is based on him thinking that Eddie will revert to Plan Yesterday and revert to type. I think he is too stubborn to do that and also feel that he would be right to continue on the "journey" copyright @cueball.

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                      • NTA
                        NTA @antipodean last edited by

                        @antipodean said in Australia v England - the decider:

                        When I agreed to go to this, I mistakenly thought the new stadium was complete. Instead I'll be squinting at ants running around 100m away.

                        There was a big raffle run across all the Subbies clubs. Our club guys bought maybe a dozen tickets, with a winner in every bucket of 300.

                        One of our guys and his mate will therefore also be squinting at the "action".

                        England to win

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                        • ACT Crusader
                          ACT Crusader last edited by

                          Smith did a few good things, nothing out of the box, but was by no means bad. The halfback change actually helped Smith I thought. Eddie has clearly given this tour to him to build experience.

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                          • Bovidae
                            Bovidae last edited by

                            1 James Slipper (116 Tests)
                            2 David Porecki (2 Tests)
                            3 Taniela Tupou (39 Tests)
                            4 Nick Frost (1 Test)
                            5 Matt Philip (22 Tests)
                            6 Harry Wilson (10 Tests)
                            7 Michael Hooper (c) (120 Tests)
                            8 Rob Valetini (20 Tests)
                            9 Nic White (49 Tests)
                            10 Noah Lolesio (11 Tests)
                            11 Marika Koroibete (44 Tests)
                            12 Samu Kerevi (40 Tests)
                            13 Hunter Paisami (16 Tests)
                            14 Tom Wright (11 Tests)
                            15 Reece Hodge (54 Tests)

                            Reserves
                            16 Folau Fainga’a (27 Tests)
                            17 Angus Bell (18 Tests)
                            18 Allan Alaalatoa (54 Tests)
                            19 Rob Leota (8 Tests)
                            20 Pete Samu (21 Tests)
                            21 Tate McDermott (15 Tests)
                            22 Len Ikitau (14 Tests)
                            23 Suliasi Vunivalu*

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                            • Canes4life
                              Canes4life @Bovidae last edited by Canes4life

                              @Bovidae said in Australia v England - the decider:

                              1 James Slipper (116 Tests)
                              2 David Porecki (2 Tests)
                              3 Taniela Tupou (39 Tests)
                              4 Nick Frost (1 Test)
                              5 Matt Philip (22 Tests)
                              6 Harry Wilson (10 Tests)
                              7 Michael Hooper (c) (120 Tests)
                              8 Rob Valetini (20 Tests)
                              9 Nic White (49 Tests)
                              10 Noah Lolesio (11 Tests)
                              11 Marika Koroibete (44 Tests)
                              12 Samu Kerevi (40 Tests)
                              13 Hunter Paisami (16 Tests)
                              14 Tom Wright (11 Tests)
                              15 Reece Hodge (54 Tests)

                              Reserves
                              16 Folau Fainga’a (27 Tests)
                              17 Angus Bell (18 Tests)
                              18 Allan Alaalatoa (54 Tests)
                              19 Rob Leota (8 Tests)
                              20 Pete Samu (21 Tests)
                              21 Tate McDermott (15 Tests)
                              22 Len Ikitau (14 Tests)
                              23 Suliasi Vunivalu*

                              Damn, I thought we saw the back of Reece Hodge. He somehow comes crawling back in due to injuries.

                              I think they need someone more adventurous at halfback aswell, Nic White has been a little sloppy in both the tests so far.

                              I would also have Wilson at 8, and Valetini at 6 considering that's where they predominantly play in Super.

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                                Derpus @Canes4life last edited by Derpus

                                @Canes4life Hodge always does.

                                He isn't the most talented, but there is something to be said for his versatility and resilience. Id rather he start and be mediocre at 15 than have Petaia on for anywhere from 3 to 60 minutes before needing to be replaced.

                                Valetini is more effective in tight which is where Rennie likes his 8. Im guessing Wilson will spend a fair bit of time on the right fringe.

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                                • Machpants
                                  Machpants @Canes4life last edited by

                                  @Canes4life said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                  @Bovidae said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                  1 James Slipper (116 Tests)
                                  2 David Porecki (2 Tests)
                                  3 Taniela Tupou (39 Tests)
                                  4 Nick Frost (1 Test)
                                  5 Matt Philip (22 Tests)
                                  6 Harry Wilson (10 Tests)
                                  7 Michael Hooper (c) (120 Tests)
                                  8 Rob Valetini (20 Tests)
                                  9 Nic White (49 Tests)
                                  10 Noah Lolesio (11 Tests)
                                  11 Marika Koroibete (44 Tests)
                                  12 Samu Kerevi (40 Tests)
                                  13 Hunter Paisami (16 Tests)
                                  14 Tom Wright (11 Tests)
                                  15 Reece Hodge (54 Tests)

                                  Reserves
                                  16 Folau Fainga’a (27 Tests)
                                  17 Angus Bell (18 Tests)
                                  18 Allan Alaalatoa (54 Tests)
                                  19 Rob Leota (8 Tests)
                                  20 Pete Samu (21 Tests)
                                  21 Tate McDermott (15 Tests)
                                  22 Len Ikitau (14 Tests)
                                  23 Suliasi Vunivalu*

                                  Damn, I thought we saw the back of Reece Hodge. He somehow comes crawling back in due to injuries.

                                  I think they need someone more adventurous at halfback aswell, Nic White has been a little sloppy in both the tests so far.

                                  ** I would also have Wilson at 8, and Valetini at 6 considering that's where they predominantly play in Super**

                                  I think moderninternational coaches feel like they have to change at least a couple of player’s ositions so they look like they’re doing something!

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                                  • Catogrande
                                    Catogrande last edited by

                                    England team announced:

                                    England: Steward, Nowell, Porter, Farrell, Freeman, Smith, Care, B Vunipola, Ludlam, Lawes (capt), Hill, Chessum, Stuart, George, Genge.

                                    Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, M Vunipola, Heyes, Isiekwe, Willis, Van Poortvliet, Joseph, Arundell

                                    A bit surprised at Van Poortvliet being dropped to the bench, though I have to say I felt his box kicking was inches away from being charged down most of the game last week. Other than that a refreshing lack of Eddie's left-field selections.

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                                    • MiketheSnow
                                      MiketheSnow @Canes4life last edited by

                                      @Canes4life said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                      @Bovidae said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                      1 James Slipper (116 Tests)
                                      2 David Porecki (2 Tests)
                                      3 Taniela Tupou (39 Tests)
                                      4 Nick Frost (1 Test)
                                      5 Matt Philip (22 Tests)
                                      6 Harry Wilson (10 Tests)
                                      7 Michael Hooper (c) (120 Tests)
                                      8 Rob Valetini (20 Tests)
                                      9 Nic White (49 Tests)
                                      10 Noah Lolesio (11 Tests)
                                      11 Marika Koroibete (44 Tests)
                                      12 Samu Kerevi (40 Tests)
                                      13 Hunter Paisami (16 Tests)
                                      14 Tom Wright (11 Tests)
                                      15 Reece Hodge (54 Tests)

                                      Reserves
                                      16 Folau Fainga’a (27 Tests)
                                      17 Angus Bell (18 Tests)
                                      18 Allan Alaalatoa (54 Tests)
                                      19 Rob Leota (8 Tests)
                                      20 Pete Samu (21 Tests)
                                      21 Tate McDermott (15 Tests)
                                      22 Len Ikitau (14 Tests)
                                      23 Suliasi Vunivalu*

                                      Damn, I thought we saw the back of Reece Hodge. He somehow comes crawling back in due to injuries.

                                      I think they need someone more adventurous at halfback aswell, Nic White has been a little sloppy in both the tests so far.

                                      I would also have Wilson at 8, and Valetini at 6 considering that's where they predominantly play in Super.

                                      Long range goal kicking option can not be underestimated

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                                      • MiketheSnow
                                        MiketheSnow @Catogrande last edited by

                                        @Catogrande said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                        England team announced:

                                        England: Steward, Nowell, Porter, Farrell, Freeman, Smith, Care, B Vunipola, Ludlam, Lawes (capt), Hill, Chessum, Stuart, George, Genge.

                                        Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, M Vunipola, Heyes, Isiekwe, Willis, Van Poortvliet, Joseph, Arundell

                                        A bit surprised at Van Poortvliet being dropped to the bench, though I have to say I felt his box kicking was inches away from being charged down most of the game last week. Other than that a refreshing lack of Eddie's left-field selections.

                                        5-3 split

                                        Eddie looking to gas the Aussies, not strangle them?

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                                        • Catogrande
                                          Catogrande @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                          @MiketheSnow Well, with five caps between the three back replacements, he's certainly not looking to experience to close out the game. In all honesty I feel that we've been left with little choice with the backs in this squad. Marchant, as good a player as he is just doesn't seem to fit in with the England game plan, of course being shuttled around between 12, 13 and the wing does not help. Cockanasiga has fallen out of favour, which I feel is a shame. Give him more of a chance and he could be a real point of difference to us.

                                          I reckon that Eddie is thinking that after last week, we maybe have the wood over the Aussie pack and he may be right but we will have to combat the breakdown very well to ensure this.

                                          I am hopefully optimistic of an England win, but it will be close whatever the score I feel.

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                                          • ACT Crusader
                                            ACT Crusader last edited by

                                            @Catogrande boooooo. Don’t like the change at halfback. JvP was excellent. Played with great assurance too for a kid that’s just starting his test career. Played at a good speed that I think suited Smith better too.

                                            Care is the safe choice.

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                                            • Catogrande
                                              Catogrande @ACT Crusader last edited by

                                              @ACT-Crusader

                                              Hard to disagree but maybe Care is there early doors to provide some affinity with Smith, who looked a little out of sorts last week?

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                                              • Bovidae
                                                Bovidae @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                @MiketheSnow said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                                Long range goal kicking option can not be underestimated

                                                The thing is that Hodge seems to be known for missing long-range penalties, not getting them.

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                                                • MiketheSnow
                                                  MiketheSnow @Bovidae last edited by

                                                  @Bovidae said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                                  @MiketheSnow said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                                  Long range goal kicking option can not be underestimated

                                                  The thing is that Hodge seems to be known for missing long-range penalties, not getting them.

                                                  Only has to to hit one 😉

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                                                    gibbon rib @Bovidae last edited by

                                                    @Bovidae said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                                    @MiketheSnow said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                                    Long range goal kicking option can not be underestimated

                                                    The thing is that Hodge seems to be known for missing long-range penalties, not getting them.

                                                    Oh, you wanted direction as well as range?

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                                                    • TheMojoman
                                                      TheMojoman last edited by

                                                      I really rate Wilson, be interesting how he works with Valentini though considering they’re both primarily ball carriers. Hooper better be prepared to up his workload. Leota makes sense coming off the bench for impact.

                                                      Good to see Vunivalu get a shot. He’s finally starting to return on the investment Rugby Aus made. Before this season he just kept the physios busy.

                                                      As for Hodge, the fact Banks, Kellaway and Petaia are injured tells you all you need to know about his selection.

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                                                      • antipodean
                                                        antipodean @TheMojoman last edited by

                                                        @TheMojoman I think Wilson, Valentini and Hooper are a reasonably well matched backrow. Certainly one that would give any team fielding three opensides a torrid time of it.

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                                                        • Bones
                                                          Bones @antipodean last edited by

                                                          @antipodean said in Australia v England - the decider:

                                                          @TheMojoman I think Wilson, Valentini and Hooper are a reasonably well matched backrow. Certainly one that would give any team fielding three opensides a torrid time of it.

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                                                            Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                                            A Fairy Tale
                                                            How they laughed when Aussie fielded 2 opensides and it didn't work. Then the ABs did it for the same results and they gnashed their teeth. But the worst was yet to come! Like magic, there were 3 opensides! But at that stage, everyone wasn't surprised at all, they were just numb.

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                                                            • Tim
                                                              Tim last edited by

                                                              Handling costing Australia.

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                                                              • Donsteppa
                                                                Donsteppa last edited by

                                                                Brilliant lineout move!

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                                                                • Duluth
                                                                  Duluth last edited by

                                                                  Great try, shitty camera angles

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                                                                  • Duluth
                                                                    Duluth last edited by

                                                                    Skills and power from Koroibete. Fend, move ball to other arm, fend the second guy, two arms around the ball and run over the third defender

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                                                                    • Kruse
                                                                      Kruse last edited by

                                                                      Lovely shot of Aus coaches box, with the young IT guy showing Rennie how his laptop works.
                                                                      "Just put your finger on this little square, and move it around - and see how the arrow on the screen moves too... ?"

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                                                                      • Tim
                                                                        Tim last edited by

                                                                        That was dumb from White.

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                                                                          Mattasaurus last edited by

                                                                          Both these teams seem more organised than Fossies fellas...

                                                                          Poor error by white there

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                                                                          • Stag
                                                                            Stag last edited by

                                                                            Clear shot of the mulleted idiot holding a player in the ruck before that try

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                                                                            • MiketheSnow
                                                                              MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                              Australia doing their level best to throw this one

                                                                              Should be 3 tries to the good

                                                                              Cameraman must have just got his drone license

                                                                              Ref has no clue at scrum time

                                                                              English loosehead losing his binding almost every scrum

                                                                              Great coaching from Eddie to hook Care

                                                                              They’ve released the handbrake

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                                                                                hydro11 last edited by

                                                                                I don't understand why teams don't set up better against the counter attack. All you needed was one guy to hold off a little bit, and Smith doesn't score that try. All the Australians rushed up for some reason.

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                                                                                • Jailbreak7
                                                                                  Jailbreak7 last edited by Jailbreak7

                                                                                  Ha Marcus Smith does a Will Jordan and scores from nowhere. but acts like hes won the WC.
                                                                                  One thing you can say for Eddie Jones, he was a good coach.Unlike Foster who was always an averagely shit Chiefs coach at best

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                                                                                  • Kruse
                                                                                    Kruse last edited by

                                                                                    That was some spectacular side-line commentary not quite censored by the broadcasters...
                                                                                    "Owen Farrell's a fucking ... blank... "
                                                                                    I don't think the guy was trying to say "legend".

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