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  • MachpantsM Online
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    Not at all because ABs coaches seem perfectly happy to pick past it players living on former glories and anyone with caps over anyone with form. Adding overseas players won't help

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    @Mr-Fish Couldn't agree more mate!

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    Nov 23, 2024

    Robertson to up ante on selecting overseas players for All Blacks

    Robertson to up ante on selecting overseas players for All Blacks

    The All Blacks coach, reflecting on his first year in charge, said he will make a submission to the NZ Rugby board about changing the selection criteria.

    I think I've been had. I'm already very bearish on next season if that's how he feels. Perhaps the SuperCoach should just select good players and coach, instead of fapping over guys that chose to leave?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

    Nov 23, 2024

    Robertson to up ante on selecting overseas players for All Blacks

    Robertson to up ante on selecting overseas players for All Blacks

    The All Blacks coach, reflecting on his first year in charge, said he will make a submission to the NZ Rugby board about changing the selection criteria.

    I think I've been had

    What a lame arse fluffybunny, picked shit players so he can play 'I need overseas players' card

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    So he obviously wants Richie Mounga, Frizzell, LF etc before they officially return.

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    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

    So he obviously wants Richie Mounga, Frizzell, LF etc before they officially return.

    The dumb fuck doesn't need most of those guys. Wallace has already performed to a higher level in black than Frizell ever had. And given the chance Lakai will do too

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    The overseas eligibility rule is only for a handful of players. Wonder if he is also considering BBR.

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    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

    So he obviously wants Richie Mounga, Frizzell, LF etc before they officially return.

    Bollocks. Razor obviously got wind that many on the Fern are not happy with him, so he is paving the way to select Akira, Sotutu and Plummer.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

    Nov 23, 2024

    Robertson to up ante on selecting overseas players for All Blacks

    Robertson to up ante on selecting overseas players for All Blacks

    The All Blacks coach, reflecting on his first year in charge, said he will make a submission to the NZ Rugby board about changing the selection criteria.

    I think I've been had. I'm already very bearish on next season if that's how he feels. Perhaps the SuperCoach should just select good players and coach, instead of fapping over guys that chose to leave?

    Fuck no I am dead against picking overseas players.It will be the death nail of our competitions imo.
    If players want to come back no problems but play in our competitions to be selected.
    It sounds like Razor wants to keep Cane ffs.
    Stupid idea Razor get your shit together and promote the players we have playing locally and players who return to play locally.

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    I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline

    But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.

    That's fucking disgraceful.

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    Just NO to overseas players. Yes if they play super rugby even in Australia. Find a way somehow to get Japan back into super rugby.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

    I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline

    But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.

    That's fucking disgraceful.

    And, his rationale, TBH, is SA is a bit better than us so can we play by their rules?

    That's not quite the coaching genius I signed up for.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

    I was hoping that was just another sensational media headline

    But no, that's the AB coach wanting players who left NZ, in black and white.

    That's fucking disgraceful.

    And more to the point.

    The players who left, did so, knowing they would be ineligible for Allblack selection going forward.

    They didnt want to put their shoulder to the Allblack wheel anymore.

    Fuck them.

    I dont want any of them back.

    You're with us or you're against us.

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    @Billy-Tell Good point, if we had access to our Australian based Kiwis in Super Rugby, we would have a bit more depth. I wonder if he wants players to play Npc so they are All Black eligible as opposed to Super Rugby only playing for Kiwi franchises.

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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

    The players who left, did so, knowing they would be ineligible for Allblack selection going forward.

    Well some, but maybe some who were close to who they knew would be coach were told to cash in and he would get them back in the fold?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

    Nov 23, 2024

    Robertson to up ante on selecting overseas players for All Blacks

    Robertson to up ante on selecting overseas players for All Blacks

    The All Blacks coach, reflecting on his first year in charge, said he will make a submission to the NZ Rugby board about changing the selection criteria.

    I think I've been had. I'm already very bearish on next season if that's how he feels. Perhaps the SuperCoach should just select good players and coach, instead of fapping over guys that chose to leave?

    Quote from the article.

    “You cannot replace Test experience – that’s one thing I’ve learned. Hence why Sam Cane has been so valuable. That’s the consistency that South Africa have at the moment."

    This is BS. No wonder he's been picking complete has beens all year.

    Experience is not fungible/equal.

    A lot of the old heads in this group have had a decade of being losers, breaking records for losing, and just in general being inferior. They have BAD experience.

    No surprise our best players all year have been debutants who have taken it directly to teams that have been dominating us recently.

    Or 2004 where we transformed the team in ONE EOYT by leaving behind Spencer/Marshall and a bunch of experienced MUST HAVE players.

    And the next gen took over and dominated the world.

    We are on the cusp of that here but apparently Razor is scared to pull the switch.

    Don't forget our best player in Sititi this year may have only had 80 minutes of game time all year if it wasn't for that Blackadder injury.

    Or seeing Aumua step up when he had no CHOICE after Taylors early injury, and he performed and became a monster this tour, after finally being given a full game instead of a BS garbage time 15 minutes at the end.

    We have a bunch of toxic nepotism picks who have been losers for near a DECADE holding us up with our next generation just waiting in the stands until they get they their chance.

    Beauden/Rieko/Jordie are immediate examples.

    Scott Barret/Reece, possibly Ardie are more.

    More than half the team currently literally aren't the best in NZ.

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    The fact that he thinks the issue is the overseas policy is just embarrassing.

    We have all the players we need already in NZ.

    The fact he can't see that is extremely disturbing.

    Also sends a nice message and an ironic hit to the apparent brotherhood he has formed with his players.

    'You aren't good enough'

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    And where is Mark Robinson in all of this? He hasn't publicly said anything which is typical. But I hope they have a candid no BS review and he tells Razor to piss off with the overseas players crap

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    @kpkanz said in All Blacks 2024:

    The fact that he thinks the issue is the overseas policy is just embarrassing.

    We have all the players we need already in NZ.

    The fact he can't see that is extremely disturbing.

    Also sends a nice message and an ironic hit to the apparent brotherhood he has formed with his players.

    'You aren't good enough'

    If you don't consistently select players that might actually crack it, it's much easier to say we don't have the cattle and change the rules. Innovation!

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    @canefan 100%.

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