Italy v France 6N
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Monday, 6 February 2023
Kick-off 4.00am NZT (Sunday, 4.00pm local time)
Stadio Olimpico, RomeMatch officials
Referee: Matthew Carley (RFU)
Assistant Referee 1: Nic Berry (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: Jordan Way (RA)
TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)
Italy
Italy: 15 Ange Capuozzo, 14 Pierre Bruno, 13 Juan Ignacio Brex, 12 Luca Morisi, 11 Tommaso Menoncello, 10 Tommaso Allan, 9 Stephen Varney, 1 Danilo Fischetti, 2 Giacomo Nicotera, 3 Simone Ferrari, 4 Niccolò Cannone, 5 Federico Ruzza, 6 Sebastian Negri, 7 Michele Lamaro (c), 8 Lorenzo CannoneReserves: 16 Luca Bigi, 17 Federico Zani, 18 Pietro Ceccarelli, 19 Edoardo Iachizzi, 20 Giovanni Pettinelli, 21 Manuel Zuliani, 22 Alessandro Fusco, 23 Edoardo Padovani
France
15 Thomas Ramos, 14 Damian Penaud, 13 Gaël Fickou, 12 Yoram Moefana, 11 Ethan Dumortier, 10 Romain Ntamack, 9 Antoine Dupont (c), 1 Cyril Baille, 2 Julien Marchand, 3 Uini Atonio, 4 Thibaud Flament, 5 Paul Willemse, 6 Anthony Jelonch, 7 Charles Ollivon, 8 Grégory AlldrittReserves: 16 Gaëtan Barlot, 17 Reda Wardi, 18 Sipili Falatea, 19 Romain Taofifenua, 20 Thomas Lavault, 21 Sekou Macalou, 22 Nolann Le Garrec, 23 Matthieu Jalibert
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Heard the Italian tight head has wheels.
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Speaking of props, have you guys seen the U20 version of this game? The Italians destroyed the French in the scrum. Some big, strong players in the Italian front row.
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@Stargazer said in Italy v France 6N:
Speaking of props, have you guys seen the U20 version of this game? The Italians destroyed the French in the scrum. Some big, strong players in the Italian front row.
Unlucky not to win that one
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@MiketheSnow Agree!
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The Italy 15 really knows how to run a sharp line.
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Italian 9 Varney is shithouse
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The Italian 15 is a class attacking threat. Christiano Culleno.
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Just finished a boozy Sunday lunch and turned on the Rugby. 11-19 to France.
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Both these teams are going to be in the same RWC group as the ABs later this year.
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Italy with a lot of ball inside the French 22 just before half time. Good French defence until they give away a penalty. Easy kick good.
Italy 14 France 19 at the drinks.
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Italians showing better individual skills than England yesterday. Certainly in their handling.
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@Catogrande said in Italy v France 6N:
Italians showing better individual skills than England yesterday. Certainly in their handling.
And their one on one tackling
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@Catogrande said in Italy v France 6N:
Italians showing better individual skills than England yesterday. Certainly in their handling.
They look dangerous when they get into the groove. Huge improvement from a year or two ago. Great game to watch - pity about the commentary...
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They have to stop trying to run it out of their 22 though. Who do they think they are? NZ under Foster?
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Just watched unawarded Italian penalty at goal three times in slow motion. Absolutely no doubt it was over. What the hell are the touchies doing?
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France so many penalties.
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France were poor and nearly paid for it.
If Italy had a clas 9-10 they would cause even more problems
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Great game. France looked so-so.
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French very often lack motivation against Italy, for some reason.
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@KiwiMurph said in Italy v France 6N:
France were poor and nearly paid for it.
If Italy had a clas 9-10 they would cause even more problems
Yes. I am more than a little nervous for next week.
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Excellent game and Italy so close to ruining the France campaign.
You do have to wonder though if this is a sign that the old France traits of not always switching on are still relevant.
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I've only seen highlights, but these last two/ mabie three years have to be italys best in a long long time if not ever
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As went the U20s so too the full team
Fickou was immense
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Under 20 games have been excellent as well
Watched the Ireland v Wales game , the first five for Ireland Sam Prendergast is going to be a star , looked like Johnny Sexton right now now but with so many more strings to his bow
Looks like he could play International rugby right now
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Just watched the replay. Great game and Italy so close! French ill-discipline was terrible.
Italy could cause a few problems during the Six Nations, and also the RWC. Underestimating them will be seriously dangerous, because they now have a well-coached team that will punish anyone who does.
Going by what I've seen of the U20 game, Italy also have some talent for the future.
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@Stargazer said in Italy v France 6N:
Italy could cause a few problems during the Six Nations, and also the RWC.
They get another crack at France at the RWC.Pity about their pool draw as if they were on the other side of the draw they would have more chance at the finals.
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that first French try shows what would happen more often if those annoying snake walls were not allowed when prepping box kicks...therefore, reducing box kicks as an option.
Also, that last maul, reckon he coulda pinged the french there too (unsurprisingly, maul was a mess)
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@taniwharugby said in Italy v France 6N:
that first French try shows what would happen more often if those annoying snake walls were not allowed when prepping box kicks...therefore, reducing box kicks as an option.
Also, that last maul, reckon he coulda pinged the french there too (unsurprisingly, maul was a mess)
Simple law application (under time wasting). No player can join the ruck once the ball is called available and players cannot make the ball “less available” once contest is over.
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@pakman said in Italy v France 6N:
Just watched unawarded Italian penalty at goal three times in slow motion. Absolutely no doubt it was over. What the hell are the touchies doing?
Yeah I was keen for another look at that, but nobody else has kicked up a fuss have they? Even the kicker didn't appear to have a problem.
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@Bones said in Italy v France 6N:
@pakman said in Italy v France 6N:
Just watched unawarded Italian penalty at goal three times in slow motion. Absolutely no doubt it was over. What the hell are the touchies doing?
Yeah I was keen for another look at that, but nobody else has kicked up a fuss have they? Even the kicker didn't appear to have a problem.
When French guy caught ball he was outside line of sticks. BUT that was because the ball swerved AFTER it had crossed the crossbar.
If that had correctly been awarded Frenchies’ constant infringing would have lost them the game, given the kickable penalties at the end.
WTF have a TMO if he can’t check that?
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@Billy-Tell said in Italy v France 6N:
The Italian 15 is a class attacking threat. Christiano Culleno.
Capuozzo is a gun. He was one of the top players last November and was MOTM against the Wallabies. He is a great attacker and knows how to hit the line.
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@pakman said in Italy v France 6N:
@Bones said in Italy v France 6N:
@pakman said in Italy v France 6N:
Just watched unawarded Italian penalty at goal three times in slow motion. Absolutely no doubt it was over. What the hell are the touchies doing?
Yeah I was keen for another look at that, but nobody else has kicked up a fuss have they? Even the kicker didn't appear to have a problem.
When French guy caught ball he was outside line of sticks. BUT that was because the ball swerved AFTER it had crossed the crossbar.
If that had correctly been awarded Frenchies’ constant infringing would have lost them the game, given the kickable penalties at the end.
WTF have a TMO if he can’t check that?
Agree, but no one even seemed to question it at the time, even comms didn't remark at all. Looked dodgy as and at the time I said that went over, but assumed as everyone else was happy and no one mentioned it, I was wrong!
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@Crucial said in Italy v France 6N:
@Stargazer said in Italy v France 6N:
Italy could cause a few problems during the Six Nations, and also the RWC.
They get another crack at France at the RWC.Pity about their pool draw as if they were on the other side of the draw they would have more chance at the finals.
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@pakman said in Italy v France 6N:
@Bones said in Italy v France 6N:
@pakman said in Italy v France 6N:
Just watched unawarded Italian penalty at goal three times in slow motion. Absolutely no doubt it was over. What the hell are the touchies doing?
Yeah I was keen for another look at that, but nobody else has kicked up a fuss have they? Even the kicker didn't appear to have a problem.
When French guy caught ball he was outside line of sticks. BUT that was because the ball swerved AFTER it had crossed the crossbar.
If that had correctly been awarded Frenchies’ constant infringing would have lost them the game, given the kickable penalties at the end.
WTF have a TMO if he can’t check that?
How fucking hard is it to put VAR tech on goalposts ffs?
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@MiketheSnow said in Italy v France 6N:
@pakman said in Italy v France 6N:
@Bones said in Italy v France 6N:
@pakman said in Italy v France 6N:
Just watched unawarded Italian penalty at goal three times in slow motion. Absolutely no doubt it was over. What the hell are the touchies doing?
Yeah I was keen for another look at that, but nobody else has kicked up a fuss have they? Even the kicker didn't appear to have a problem.
When French guy caught ball he was outside line of sticks. BUT that was because the ball swerved AFTER it had crossed the crossbar.
If that had correctly been awarded Frenchies’ constant infringing would have lost them the game, given the kickable penalties at the end.
WTF have a TMO if he can’t check that?
How fucking hard is it to put VAR tech on goalposts ffs?
At the moment they can't easily get shot clock tech running. Shot/play clocks have been used in other sports for a very long time yet rugby has to try and work out how to do it?!
Seriously though, it would be another time waster as anything that looked close would be checked. Happy for it to remain the judgement of trained officials with the option for the TMO to check on clear blunders.