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    • Bovidae
      Bovidae last edited by

      Closer to a first-choice team.

      Gallagher Chiefs motivated for first game at home

      Gallagher Chiefs motivated for first game at home

      The Gallagher Chiefs are excited to be home in front of family and fans for the first time this season when they host the Highlanders at FMG Stadium Waikato on Friday in DHL Super Rugby Pacific.

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      • Bovidae
        Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

        The team is (Chiefs caps in brackets):
        1 Aidan Ross (62)
        2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (65)
        3 John Ryan (2)
        4 Brodie Retallick (117)
        5 Tupou Vaa’i (33)
        6 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (35)
        7 Sam Cane (Co-Captain, 139)
        8 Luke Jacobson (51)
        9 Brad Weber (Co-Captain, 112)
        10 Damian McKenzie (97)
        11 Etene Nanai-Seturo (30)
        12 Rameka Poihipi (16)
        13 Alex Nankivell (60)
        14 Emoni Narawa (9)
        15 Shaun Stevenson (69)

        Reserves:
        16 Bradley Slater (41)
        17 Ollie Norris (30)
        18 George Dyer (9)
        19 Samipeni Finau (19)
        20 Pita Gus Sowakula (55)
        21 Cortez Ratima (11)
        22 Josh Ioane (9)
        23 Daniel Rona (Debut)

        Players not considered because of injury: Angus Ta’avao (season), Atu Moli, Josh Lord, Quinn Tupaea, Anton Lienert-Brown.

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          SouthernMann last edited by

          Highlanders team looks shit. Chiefs by 40

          Ethan de Groot
          Rhys Marshall
          Jermaine Ainsley
          Pari Pari Parkinson
          Josh Dickson
          Shannon Frizell
          James Lentjes (C)
          Hugh Renton
          Aaron Smith
          Mitch Hunt
          Mosese Dawai
          Thomas Umaga-Jensen
          Josh Timu
          Martin Bogado
          Freddie Burns
          Reserves: 16. Leni Apisai 17. Ayden Johnstone 18. Saula Mau 19. Fabian Holland 20. Sean Withy 21. Kemara Hauiti-Parapara Fetuli Paea 23. Connor Garden-Bachop

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          • Kiwiwomble
            Kiwiwomble last edited by

            seriously, burns to 15? when we have CGB on the bench make me mad, we thought he was a starting 10 last week...we're going to get another flogging

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            • Stargazer
              Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

              Highlanders media release:

              Smith, Frizell and de Groot to return for Chiefs clash | Highlanders Rugby Club Limited Partnership

              Smith, Frizell and de Groot to return for Chiefs clash | Highlanders Rugby Club Limited Partnership

              Some experience returns for the Highlanders for their third-round match against Chiefs with Head Coach Clarke Dermody welcoming back the Highlanders’ most capped player, Aaron Smith.

              Harmon and Folau Fakatava will observe their All Black breaks this week.

              Not Available due to injury: Marty Banks (groin), Sam Gilbert (shoulder), Scott Gregory (knee), Vili Koroi (knee), Jonah Lowe (concussion), Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (ribs), Jona Nareki (foot), Jeff Thwaites (back), Will Tucker (groin).

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                SouthernMann last edited by

                @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                seriously, burns to 15? when we have CGB on the bench make me mad, we thought he was a starting 10 last week...we're going to get another flogging

                I would have taken Sean Withy or Lentjes at 8. If one of Hunt or Burns had to play fullback, I would have gone Hunt. CGB should be on the wing in front of the other two.

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                • Kiwiwomble
                  Kiwiwomble @SouthernMann last edited by

                  @SouthernMann would have been happy with those changes, Hunt had a cracking game in 2021 at 15 against the chiefs

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                  • FakatavaAllBlack
                    FakatavaAllBlack @Stargazer last edited by

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                    • Bovidae
                      Bovidae last edited by

                      I thought that Selby-Rickit would be on the bench this week (he hasn't played yet) but now more likely to be involved in the Rebels game as one of Retallick or Vaa'i are rested.

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                      • Stargazer
                        Stargazer @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                        @FakatavaAllBlack I was just editing my post to add that. I'm surprised that Harmon has to observe All Blacks breaks, as he trained with them, but wasn't a full (playing) squad member. That makes me think that the group of players that has to take ABs breaks is probably wider than the initial 2022 squad.

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                        • taniwharugby
                          taniwharugby @Stargazer last edited by

                          @Stargazer assume when they get selected/called up to go on tour they sign a new or amended contract?

                          But is a bit silly really for some of them to require a rest, when some want/need the time to push thier case further

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                          • Stargazer
                            Stargazer @taniwharugby last edited by Stargazer

                            @taniwharugby Or there is a standard clause in a player's contract that is activated as soon as they're called into the ABs (but doesn't apply if they aren't)? I have no idea.

                            I agree that not all players need (or want) an ABs rest break. RTS didn't take his (with permission of NZR) for that reason. I assume there are more players who aren't keen.

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                            • kiwi_expat
                              kiwi_expat @Bovidae last edited by kiwi_expat

                              @Bovidae Narawa back at 14, Chiefs' best back 3 unless Punivai can make a big enough impression.

                              Is Rona any good? why does Wrampling never get a go? He should move to Highlanders or Crusaders who're light on powerful midfield options.

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                              • Bovidae
                                Bovidae @kiwi_expat last edited by Bovidae

                                @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                Is Rona any good?

                                He impressed in the preseason games and covers the midfield and wing, so an ideal sub for this team.

                                why does Wrampling never get a go?

                                He is returning from a serious knee injury but should be available for selection soon.

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                                • Nepia
                                  Nepia last edited by

                                  Looking at the Highlanders hookers Thompson really should have gone there instead of the Chiefs to get more gametime.

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                                  • Kiwiwomble
                                    Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                    Not Available for the highlanders due to injury: Marty Banks (groin), Sam Gilbert (shoulder), Scott Gregory (knee), Vili Koroi (knee), Jonah Lowe (concussion), Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (ribs), Jona Nareki (foot), Jeff Thwaites (back), Will Tucker (groin).

                                    for me thats 4 starters out

                                    whats up with Gatland?

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                                      Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                      This is it! This is the week the Clan clicks and takes it!!

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                                      • Bovidae
                                        Bovidae @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                        whats up with Gatland?

                                        What do you mean? Clearly, Gatland isn't going to start at 1st 5 ahead of DMac, and Ioane can play 10, 15 and even 12. He is also the better impact player as seen against the Crusaders.

                                        McMillan has given most fit players a run in the first 3 Rds.

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                                        • Kiwiwomble
                                          Kiwiwomble @Bovidae last edited by

                                          @Bovidae i guess i expected him to get more game time, he left us even though had a 50/50 chance to start at 10 with Hunt but i guess youre right with DMac...just feels daming he'd rather get the odd game on the bench with the chiefs than start for us....in saying that we dont know, maybe we told him he wasn;t wanted

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                                          • Crucial
                                            Crucial @Kiwiwomble last edited by Crucial

                                            @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                            @Bovidae i guess i expected him to get more game time, he left us even though had a 50/50 chance to start at 10 with Hunt but i guess youre right with DMac...just feels daming he'd rather get the odd game on the bench with the chiefs than start for us....in saying that we dont know, maybe we told him he wasn;t wanted

                                            Daddy was Chiefs remember.
                                            I do agree though that it is dumb for him to be a training jersey wearer only at the Chiefs when he could be well used at the Landers.
                                            Need to bring back loan players IMO. Better that these guys play.
                                            Even if Gatland would rather be backup in a good team, you guys could certainly do with a player like Reihana who gets no time at all.

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                                            • kiwi_expat
                                              kiwi_expat @Crucial last edited by kiwi_expat

                                              @Crucial

                                              Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                                              DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                                              ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                                              Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                                              I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

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                                              • Kiwiwomble
                                                Kiwiwomble @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                                @kiwi_expat crusaders have done if before, blues too...different positions maybe...some times a team just ha sa culture that attracts players i guess

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                                                • Bovidae
                                                  Bovidae @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                                  @kiwi_expat TTT is an injury replacement for Roe. Nobody wanted him in 2023.

                                                  The Chiefs have lost plenty of halfbacks and 1st 5s to other teams too. The Crusaders have three of them.

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                                                  • kiwi_expat
                                                    kiwi_expat @Kiwiwomble last edited by kiwi_expat

                                                    @Kiwiwomble I was being facetious

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                                                    • Crucial
                                                      Crucial @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                                      @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                                      @Crucial

                                                      Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                                                      DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                                                      ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                                                      Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                                                      I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

                                                      Stockpiled/top level player in bold. Injured players being carried in italics.
                                                      The rest of the depth is their own development which is simply what you do with a squad.

                                                      I do agree though (and I have commented on the Saders stockpiling in the past) that there should be an avenue for players to go on loan and spread the talent when another franchise is empty.
                                                      That would be, for example, Gatland being loaned to the Clan

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                                                      • Kiwiwomble
                                                        Kiwiwomble @Crucial last edited by Kiwiwomble

                                                        @Crucial shelby ricket, Ioane and Gatland "their development"? even Weber headed north very well developed

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                                                        • Stargazer
                                                          Stargazer @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                          @Kiwiwomble Weber never played for another SR franchise.

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                                                          • Kiwiwomble
                                                            Kiwiwomble @Stargazer last edited by

                                                            @Stargazer no but that was largely just because people like Smith and even cowen were ahead of him in dunners, had turned out for otago and there were lots of us calling for him to turn out for the Highlanders, pretty much straight into starting for the chiefs show to me he was ready

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                                                            • Stargazer
                                                              Stargazer @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                              @Kiwiwomble He didn't start a single game in his first season at the Chiefs.

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                                                              • Kiwiwomble
                                                                Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                my bad, i forgot you can never make a throwaway comment without getting pulled up, not going to check if youre right as i dont think it really matter, he still signed with the chiefs on the back of playing in dunedin which suggests to me he was ready for that next step. Not saying he hasn't got better being up there, just that he was 22-23 when he headed to the chiefs not some teenager

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                                                                  ARHS @kiwi_expat last edited by

                                                                  @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                                                  @Crucial

                                                                  Weber, Ratima, Roe, TTT.
                                                                  DMac, Gatland, Ioane, Reihana.
                                                                  ALB, Tupaea, Nankivell, Poihipi, Wrampling.
                                                                  Rettalick, Vaaii, McWhannell, Lord, Selby-Ricket, Ah Kuoi.

                                                                  I wonder how Chiefs get away with their blatant stockpiling of halves, midfielders & locks?

                                                                  The Chiefs have the burden of having 4 feeder npc teams and always lose a bunch of players due to that. But it does leave them with better depth capabity overall than other super sides. If they only had 2 teams they could basically recruit for those two npc teams and for their development teams to plug any holes in either.

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                                                                  • Crucial
                                                                    Crucial @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                    @Kiwiwomble my bad also. Developed wasn’t the right word for all of them.
                                                                    I think quite a few are just average for this level so can’t really be classified as hoarded

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                                                                    • Kiwiwomble
                                                                      Kiwiwomble @Crucial last edited by

                                                                      @Crucial fair, didn't actually think my comment would go anywhere

                                                                      im also just bitter, felt our squad wasn;t actually THAT bad preseason....have been proved wrong

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                                                                        SouthernMann @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                                                        @Stargazer no but that was largely just because people like Smith and even cowen were ahead of him in dunners, had turned out for otago and there were lots of us calling for him to turn out for the Highlanders, pretty much straight into starting for the chiefs show to me he was ready

                                                                        Weber had Josh Renton in front of him at Otago at the time. It baffled a lot of us. Turns out a reason why was because he was seen as a good time party boy who was perceived to prioritise getting on the piss ahead playing and training. He was clearly one of the best players in Dunedin Club Rugby at the time, in a Dunedin team that featured High Blake and Gareth Evans. His talent was clear to see, sadly, I think at the time, Tony Brown as coach liked Renton's work ethic. On reflection a silly move. It would have been interesting to see how he would have gone over the last decade, giving the Highlanders a 1-2 punch of Smith and Weber.

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                                                                        • Duluth
                                                                          Duluth @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                                                          seriously, burns to 15?

                                                                          I'm guessing they want his kicking game, and for him to come into first receiver often, but they don't trust his defence in the front line? His misses the previous week were costly

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                                                                          • Jailbreak7
                                                                            Jailbreak7 last edited by Jailbreak7

                                                                            I'm starting to think ALB may fall into the same category as Goodhue. Too broken, too often. Nothing wrong with his rugby brain but appears that injuries have curtailed his pace and impaired reaction time, making him easier to read for defences. Whilst I'm keen to see more of Poihipi, Chiefs midfield has a temporary look and feel to it with Nankivell heading offshore, whereas TUJ and Timu are progressing nicely complementing each other (and have been bright spots) in an underperforming team.

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                                                                            • FakatavaAllBlack
                                                                              FakatavaAllBlack @Jailbreak7 last edited by

                                                                              @Jailbreak7 unfortunately Timu is now injured, landers backline casualty ward is ever growing Timu, Gilbert, Lowe, Nareki, Gregory

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                                                                                Duluth @FakatavaAllBlack last edited by

                                                                                @FakatavaAllBlack said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                                                                unfortunately Timu is now injured, landers backline casualty ward is ever growing Timu, Gilbert, Lowe, Nareki, Gregory

                                                                                Fetuli Paea starts, Jake Te Hiwi on the bench

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                                                                                • Bovidae
                                                                                  Bovidae @Jailbreak7 last edited by

                                                                                  @Jailbreak7 That ankle injury was a freak injury. If ALB has repeated problems with his shoulder then I would be concerned.

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                                                                                    SouthernMann @Duluth last edited by

                                                                                    @Duluth said in Chiefs v Highlanders:

                                                                                    Fetuli Paea starts, Jake Te Hiwi on the bench

                                                                                    Paea who would be the fourth choice centre with Tasman? Being backed up to Te Hiwi who is barely getting his provincial career going. What shithouse options.

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