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    6N 2023 England v France

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    • Catogrande
      Catogrande last edited by Duluth

      England team to face Les Bleus on Saturday:

      England: Steward; Malins, Slade, Lawrence, Watson; Smith, Van Poortvliet; Genge (capt), George, Sinckler; Itoje, Chessum; Ludlam, Willis, Dombrandt.

      Replacements: Walker, M Vunipola, Cole, Ribbans, B Curry, Mitchell, Farrell, Arundell.

      Obviously the big call is Farrell being dropped which I think is a good call, as much for showing he CAN be dropped, more than just my preference for Smith. However it will be really interesting to see if Smith can run the game with a more balanced midfield with no Farrell to stifle him. I expect to see Farrell at some point though.

      Good to see Ribbans on the bench as he brings a point of difference to second row and can actually have an impact.

      We must see more of Arundell this time round too. Again a point of difference and capable of making a good impact. We need impact players on the bench, not just a lesser version of what is already on the field. Mako, I’m looking at you.

      Given the Twickenham hoodoo that the French have been suffering for so many years, I think we might scrape this one.

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      • Bones
        Bones @Catogrande last edited by

        @Catogrande yeah interested to see if Smith really is as good as hyped. Opposition should suit him too.

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        • Catogrande
          Catogrande @Bones last edited by

          @Bones

          I’m pretty sure they’ll be targeting him but with Dombrandt at 8 and Lawrence at 12 both being good bale out options, hopefully he can get to play a bit.

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          • Crucial
            Crucial @Catogrande last edited by

            @Catogrande said in 6N 2023 England v France:

            @Bones

            I’m pretty sure they’ll be targeting him but with Dombrandt at 8 and Lawrence at 12 both being good bale out options, hopefully he can get to play a bit.

            Yeah. Hope he proves me wrong about his fit in the team. It could well be that it is having piss face next to him is the real problem. I guess we will find out.
            At least the coaches are trying it now. Eddies desire to squeeze both Smith and Farrell in didn’t work.

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            • Catogrande
              Catogrande @Crucial last edited by

              @Crucial

              The Smith/Farrell thing just never seemed to gel with any consistency. I can see what Eddie was trying to do - Squidge did a good breakdown of it - but even under Eddie it really lost it's way. Under Borthwick there was not the same ambition so the selection really confused me. I'm hoping that what we are seeing now is an increasing influence from Evans, there is a rumour going round that Wiggleworth is now going to be the kicking coach with a hand in defence rather than attack coach, leaving Evans in the hot seat. I hope so.

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              • Bones
                Bones last edited by

                @MiketheSnow to be fair this is some quality grief the ITV team are giving Kayser about his gloves.

                Emoji hands.

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                • Bones
                  Bones last edited by

                  Geez how had England already run out of defenders there?

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                  • Jailbreak7
                    Jailbreak7 last edited by

                    One thing is for sure, we are going to have to be at our very best early on in our WC match against France. If they start well, we are going to have to be better.

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                    • Jailbreak7
                      Jailbreak7 last edited by

                      WTFis going on, England defence fractured and all at sea so far..

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                      • Bones
                        Bones last edited by

                        Ludlam will wanna forget this first ten minutes.

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                        • Jailbreak7
                          Jailbreak7 last edited by

                          Already too much kicking....

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                          • Tim
                            Tim last edited by

                            Guessing that France think that England can't keep up with a fast game.

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                            • Jailbreak7
                              Jailbreak7 last edited by

                              Dupont running the show Marcus Smith is MIA

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                              • MiketheSnow
                                MiketheSnow last edited by

                                France are off to the races

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                                • Tim
                                  Tim @Jailbreak7 last edited by

                                  @Jailbreak7 said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                  Marcus Smith

                                  So far below test level it's a joke.

                                  Useless player.

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                                  • MiketheSnow
                                    MiketheSnow last edited by

                                    England deserve that for trying to be S Africa circa 2017

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                                    • Bones
                                      Bones @Tim last edited by

                                      @Tim said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                      @Jailbreak7 said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                      Marcus Smith

                                      So far below test level it's a joke.

                                      Useless player.

                                      Yeah getting found out. I really didn't understand the hype before he debuted and I get less convinced the more he plays.

                                      Dupont is back in form.

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                                      • MiketheSnow
                                        MiketheSnow last edited by

                                        Ref is on it

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                                        • Tim
                                          Tim @Bones last edited by

                                          @Bones When he played in Australia last year he was so far behind the pace. Awful.

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                                          • MiketheSnow
                                            MiketheSnow @Tim last edited by

                                            @Tim said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                            @Bones When he played in Australia last year he was so far behind the pace. Awful.

                                            Van Portfleet is not helping his cause

                                            Doing his best Tomos Williams impression

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                                            • Tim
                                              Tim @Bones last edited by Tim

                                              @Bones A friend knows Nick Evans through work, and he really rates him. My cheeky friend suggested that his height and quality were more Isaiah West level.

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                                              • Jailbreak7
                                                Jailbreak7 last edited by

                                                Our loose trio are really going to have to roll their sleeves up, as has the entire pack. France has been super efficient and so quick at the breakdown.

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                                                • Bones
                                                  Bones @Tim last edited by

                                                  @Tim said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                                  @Bones A friend knows Nick Evans through work, and he really rates him. My cheeky friend suggested that his height and quality were more Isaiah West level.

                                                  I don't think there's much between him and Mounga. Just Smith has a dial that might be even more hateable than Sexdoll.

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                                                  • Victor Meldrew
                                                    Victor Meldrew last edited by Victor Meldrew

                                                    England look awful at the breakdown. Midfield is all over the place - bunching up on attack and getting pulled out of position on defence. Think Farrell may be on after the break to add some leadership.

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                                                    • MiketheSnow
                                                      MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                      Aldritt must read The Fern

                                                      Massive half

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                                                      • Tim
                                                        Tim @Bones last edited by

                                                        @Bones Smith is really substandard. Has showed none of the quality that Mo'unga has.

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                                                        • Tim
                                                          Tim @Victor Meldrew last edited by

                                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                                          Think Farrell may be on after the break to add some leadership.

                                                          You'd hope so.

                                                          His teammates may hate him, but he is much better than the clowns out there.

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                                                          • MiketheSnow
                                                            MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                            Sinfield getting ready with the hair dryer

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                                                            • Tim
                                                              Tim last edited by

                                                              27 - 3 at half time at Twickenham. A fucking rabble.

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                                                              • Bones
                                                                Bones last edited by

                                                                Fucking hell that was a training run.

                                                                French loosies looking out of this world.

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                                                                • Jailbreak7
                                                                  Jailbreak7 last edited by

                                                                  And we can't have BB kicking either....

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                                                                  • Bones
                                                                    Bones @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                    @MiketheSnow said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                                                    Sinfield getting ready with the hair dryer

                                                                    With the resignation letter?

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                                                                    • Tim
                                                                      Tim @Bones last edited by

                                                                      @Bones And the Irish made them look ordinary.

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                                                                      • MiketheSnow
                                                                        MiketheSnow @Bones last edited by

                                                                        @Bones said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                                                        @MiketheSnow said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                                                        Sinfield getting ready with the hair dryer

                                                                        With the resignation letter?

                                                                        Fuck no

                                                                        There’s no way he coached that defensive performance

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                                                                        • Victor Meldrew
                                                                          Victor Meldrew last edited by

                                                                          First half is worst England performance I've seen for a while. Zero direction, silly mistakes & an attack like a toothless squirrel.

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                                                                          • Victor Meldrew
                                                                            Victor Meldrew @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                            @MiketheSnow said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                                                            Sinfield getting ready with the hair dryer

                                                                            Not that Borthwick needs one.

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                                                                            • Tim
                                                                              Tim last edited by

                                                                              Genge
                                                                              Sinckler
                                                                              Itoje
                                                                              Farrell

                                                                              Oh you really hate to see such great and humble guys suck a big one.

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                                                                              • Bones
                                                                                Bones @Tim last edited by

                                                                                @Tim I don't get the Farrell hate, but fuck yes to the others. Farrell doesn't seem like that blustery piston wristed gibbon, he just gets away with shithouse tackling.

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                                                                                • Bones
                                                                                  Bones last edited by

                                                                                  That's really bizarre the back markers swapping when Dupont hit the 50-22. What the fuck were they trying to achieve?

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                                                                                  • sparky
                                                                                    sparky @Victor Meldrew last edited by

                                                                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in 6N 2023 England v France:

                                                                                    First half is worst England performance I've seen for a while. Zero direction, silly mistakes & an attack like a toothless squirrel.

                                                                                    Eddie Jones must being feeling rather smug watching this.

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