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    replied to Rancid Schnitzel on last edited by
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    @Rancid-Schnitzel something we do alot is move left 2 phases then back right 2 phases...all we are doing is running into heavy traffic, need to go more or wider one way before pulling it back to spread the defence.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Quick stat look shows we only won 66% (10/15) of our lineouts. Fuuuuck.

    We tackled at 83%. Won't win like that.

    But surprisingly SA was even worse at 80%. You know what they say about stats...

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    How bad did Lomax's injury look. Missed that part.

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    @Frank

    Looked like he ripped open a large flap of skin over his knee, not sure how much other damage was done

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    Stuff
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    Vermuelen is it? Punching Jacobsen 3 times in the head.

    The third of which seemed particularly forceful.

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    @Stargazer I assume Fozzie means he won't be unavailable for the RWC, not the French test?

    And while Lomax will need to be medically assessed after the defeat, Foster said he doubts that the 27-year-old will be unavailable come France.

    "Tyrel's pretty bad, actually," said Foster post-match. "He's got quite a big cut, it's right through into the muscle of the thigh.

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    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Vermuelen is it? Punching Jacobsen 3 times in the head.

    The third of which seemed particularly forceful.

    Cane asked Carley about this to which he replied "no foul play" "and to stop holding players in the rucks".

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel that wasn't a set move to run blind FFS. Ardie accidently tapped the ball blind. Had Talea kicked the ball ahead, they bay have been planted further down field for a while.

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    replied to Steve on last edited by
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    @Steve

    Don't hold players at a ruck

    Fuck you whine a lot

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    So, I need to go for a walk before the big game of the weekend in 2 hours, but not really sure what to make of that.

    Ryan was getting a lot of fluffing in the lead up to this match, therefore is he taking the lions share of the blame for this loss considering the ABs failed spectacularly in the set piece?

    Also, why the fuck don't NZ teams clear the ball from our own 22. It seems like a disease in all NZ rugby. Two of the tries (I think) can be partially attributed us fucking around.

    Was Smith's pass to Cane behind the line the worst pass of his entire career?

    The first scrum penalty was hilarious, the ref said for elbow touching the ground, on the replay he raises his arm before the elbow touches the ground. Plus, Vermeulen should have been penalised for lying in the ruck, not babied by the ref for a non injury. We probably deserved a lot of those early penalties but not sure we were getting any rub of the green.

    Roigard had great input.

    Not a great night for the Barrett whanau.

    In that early period in between the first and second tries where we held them out for ages I think Cane did some captaining, the type of stuff people complain he doesn't do, he was questioning the ref and relaying stuff to the players, and for a time it was working.

    I'm not sure whether this actually hindered our preparation or helped us - this seems like a good moment to make a pact. 😉

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    in the leadup to SA first try a south African player grabs at saveas legs to stop him defending.

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    @Steve that's because Foster is a moron. Had he not lost all those games and spent 3 years trying to find his team, the ABs would be in a much better place.

    Fark me the best hasn't played more than two tests together. They beat Oz, beat SA. Two weeks later changed the entire team. 2 weeks later, changed the entire team. It's now 2 more weeks, our best team got pinged off the park, couldn't put together more than 3 phases, couldn't kick 50m and defend, couldn't hold a pass, lost half our line-outs and now we have to beat France with a team that hasn't played together other than getting humped sideways. Those saying you can't blame Foster, the players don't pick the teams. They certainly don't rotate themselves. They don't forge the game plan. Foster has, lost to Argentina for the first time ever. Lost to Argentina at home for the first time ever. Lost a series to Ireland for the first time ever. And at home. Humped by France. Should have beaten England. Almost lost to Japan. Could easily have lost to Australia twice. Humped against SA. Barely puts out the same side twice and takes the team to a record loss leading in to the RWC. When was the last time this side put 3 statement wins together? None. They had the opportunity this year and fucked it.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Front row okay at the scrum considering the shitshow behind them. But cooked from being on their heels
    Sam Whitelock a huge shift
    Scott Barrett welcome back. 3 dumb blatant penalties and a red card worthy piece of rubbish. Fuck entirely off
    Luke Jacobson non entity
    Cane did fuck all, but abandoned by those around him
    As bas as you will see Ardie play. An overall negative in attack and defence
    Smith given nothing
    Mounga is the worst 10 in the world to.have behind that "platform"
    Jordie? Doesn't pass except to green shirts. Missed a one on one to give up a 40m linebreak. Awful
    Ioane may as well have not played
    The wings were good!
    BBarrett was shit. At least try and tackle you fucking fairy

    Bench? Dropped balls. Shit set piece. ALB knocked on

    Mostly agree. I'm slightly less critical of the backs because of the shit that was happening in front of them. Poor kicking from hand didn't help though

    I though Rieko had a tidy game on defence, quite often he was having to cover a couple of attackers and he used his speed well.

    Telea somehow keeps beating people. It makes no sense. 11 defenders beaten in a game where we didn't have much ball is impressive

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    Hot take. Roigard to start v. France.

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    @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Hot take. Roigard to start v. France.

    Not a snowballs chance in hell I’d imagine but certainly gives opposition D something else to look at and probably not too much film on him.

    On a slightly related but tangential note….I think injuries in certain positions could actually BENEFIT us, not that you’d wish it on anyone. And I won’t name any one in particular because it would be uncouth.

    But Foster doesn’t make bold decisions unless his hand is forced.

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Front row okay at the scrum considering the shitshow behind them. But cooked from being on their heels
    Sam Whitelock a huge shift
    Scott Barrett welcome back. 3 dumb blatant penalties and a red card worthy piece of rubbish. Fuck entirely off
    Luke Jacobson non entity
    Cane did fuck all, but abandoned by those around him
    As bas as you will see Ardie play. An overall negative in attack and defence
    Smith given nothing
    Mounga is the worst 10 in the world to.have behind that "platform"
    Jordie? Doesn't pass except to green shirts. Missed a one on one to give up a 40m linebreak. Awful
    Ioane may as well have not played
    The wings were good!
    BBarrett was shit. At least try and tackle you fucking fairy

    Bench? Dropped balls. Shit set piece. ALB knocked on

    Mostly agree. I'm slightly less critical of the backs because of the shit that was happening in front of them. Poor kicking from hand didn't help though

    I though Rieko had a tidy game on defence, quite often he was having to cover a couple of attackers and he used his speed well.

    Telea somehow keeps beating people. It makes no sense. 11 defenders beaten in a game where we didn't have much ball is impressive

    Apparently Telea beat 7 more defenders than the bloke in second. Some shift.

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    @Steve

    Telea 11
    Savea 4
    Ioane 3
    J Barrett 3
    Taukei'aho 3

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    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Front row okay at the scrum considering the shitshow behind them. But cooked from being on their heels
    Sam Whitelock a huge shift
    Scott Barrett welcome back. 3 dumb blatant penalties and a red card worthy piece of rubbish. Fuck entirely off
    Luke Jacobson non entity
    Cane did fuck all, but abandoned by those around him
    As bas as you will see Ardie play. An overall negative in attack and defence
    Smith given nothing
    Mounga is the worst 10 in the world to.have behind that "platform"
    Jordie? Doesn't pass except to green shirts. Missed a one on one to give up a 40m linebreak. Awful
    Ioane may as well have not played
    The wings were good!
    BBarrett was shit. At least try and tackle you fucking fairy

    Bench? Dropped balls. Shit set piece. ALB knocked on

    Mostly agree. I'm slightly less critical of the backs because of the shit that was happening in front of them. Poor kicking from hand didn't help though

    I though Rieko had a tidy game on defence, quite often he was having to cover a couple of attackers and he used his speed well.

    Telea somehow keeps beating people. It makes no sense. 11 defenders beaten in a game where we didn't have much ball is impressive

    Apparently Telea beat 7 more defenders than the bloke in second. Some shift.

    Caleb Clarke looks redundant with Telea in that sort of touch.

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    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Front row okay at the scrum considering the shitshow behind them. But cooked from being on their heels
    Sam Whitelock a huge shift
    Scott Barrett welcome back. 3 dumb blatant penalties and a red card worthy piece of rubbish. Fuck entirely off
    Luke Jacobson non entity
    Cane did fuck all, but abandoned by those around him
    As bas as you will see Ardie play. An overall negative in attack and defence
    Smith given nothing
    Mounga is the worst 10 in the world to.have behind that "platform"
    Jordie? Doesn't pass except to green shirts. Missed a one on one to give up a 40m linebreak. Awful
    Ioane may as well have not played
    The wings were good!
    BBarrett was shit. At least try and tackle you fucking fairy

    Bench? Dropped balls. Shit set piece. ALB knocked on

    Mostly agree. I'm slightly less critical of the backs because of the shit that was happening in front of them. Poor kicking from hand didn't help though

    I though Rieko had a tidy game on defence, quite often he was having to cover a couple of attackers and he used his speed well.

    Telea somehow keeps beating people. It makes no sense. 11 defenders beaten in a game where we didn't have much ball is impressive

    Apparently Telea beat 7 more defenders than the bloke in second. Some shift.

    All 7 were in the kick off take he made most likely

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