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  • RapidoR Offline
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    So. In summary.

    Eden Paek 2.0 would still likely be a joke by 5m in each straight direction in current orientation. Despite likely lengthening by 5m each way.

    But an Eden Park 2.0 with the orientation flipped 90 degrees would be OK.

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    @Rapido the expensive seats and corporate are north and south, and the sun goes east west.

    So I can't see a realignment happening

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    @nzzp said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    @Rapido the expensive seats and corporate are north and south, and the sun goes east west.

    So I can't see a realignment happening

    I also think it unlikely.

    They are quite (demonstrably) comfortable with shit dimensions.

    The East-West orientation and sunsets is a real thing for cricket grounds, I agree. But isually not when the ground is a full stadium with building heights no longer making it an issue. Although it would require modeling.

    McLean Park (which has a SW orientation) has that issue, where a gap in the stands at exactly due west, causes problems at sunset at certain parts of the summer.

    Eden Park orientation is very slightly WNW.

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    @nzzp said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    @Rapido the expensive seats and corporate are north and south

    For this part.

    Taking Eden Park 2.0 irenders n good faith .... I'm expecting covered seating at least at one end, if not both.

    I don't expect corporate at either end though, they would remain square.

    That would be Adelaide Oval equivalent.

    Rare, but not unknown or unsuccessful.

    I would expect a corporate lounge oriented side-on that, but at a ground that actually hosts test matches again, so increases cricket days at the stadium by about 200 to 300%, to be of more value than the status quo of about 4 days use per summer.

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    I remember when the West stand was the best stand in the ground.

    This is from the document that went to Council and illustrates why Eden Park 2.0 was the only choice, albeit the reality any redevelopment has been kicked down the road.

    image.png

    The Waterfront Stadium was, (as always thought) pretty renders and not much else

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667337/auckland-fc-home-base-tataki-auckland-unlimiteds-preferred-option-western-springs-stadium

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    @mikedogz said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667337/auckland-fc-home-base-tataki-auckland-unlimiteds-preferred-option-western-springs-stadium

    I presume the lack of seating behind one of the goals is so they can have a concert stage go there.

    Would be better if there was a stand behind that goal and the field moved back. Then a smaller concourse linking to the existing terraces

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    I see Eden Park released a video about the 3 stages. After a minute of fluff there is some details on distances in the different configurations

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    @Duluth said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    @mikedogz said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667337/auckland-fc-home-base-tataki-auckland-unlimiteds-preferred-option-western-springs-stadium

    I presume they lack of seating behind one of the goals is so they can have a concert stage go there.

    Would be better if there was a stand behind that goal and the field moved back. Then a smaller concourse linking to the existing terraces

    I do like the KOP like stand behind the goal…but am I missing something, with that huge concourse people sitting in the first few rows won’t see any/most of the pitch….

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    @Duluth said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    @mikedogz said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667337/auckland-fc-home-base-tataki-auckland-unlimiteds-preferred-option-western-springs-stadium

    I presume they lack of seating behind one of the goals is so they can have a concert stage go there.

    Would be better if there was a stand behind that goal and the field moved back. Then a smaller concourse linking to the existing terraces

    I do like the KOP like stand behind the goal…but am I missing something, with that huge concourse people sitting in the first few rows won’t see any/most of the pitch….

    And the top rows will be miles away from the field

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    @Duluth said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    I see Eden Park released a video about the 3 stages. After a minute of fluff there is some details on distances in the different configurations

    Looks good. Soooooooooooooo, where's the money coming from?

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    @Duluth said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    @mikedogz said in Auckland stadiums - Eden Park, Western Springs etc:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360667337/auckland-fc-home-base-tataki-auckland-unlimiteds-preferred-option-western-springs-stadium

    I presume they lack of seating behind one of the goals is so they can have a concert stage go there.

    Would be better if there was a stand behind that goal and the field moved back. Then a smaller concourse linking to the existing terraces

    I do like the KOP like stand behind the goal…but am I missing something, with that huge concourse people sitting in the first few rows won’t see any/most of the pitch….

    That would just be for concerts. (The hill).

    If there was going to be enough people attending football matches here that the hill was needed, then why build it at all. There is already Mt Smart and Eden Park.

    Google some images of 1980s David Bowie concert at Westrn Springs, and can understand why an architect wouldn't want to seal that off permanently from the rest of the arena. But I would have doubts it would actually get used, much, if ever.

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    Aucklanders to weigh in on $300m stadium vs rugby club plan at Western Springs
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