Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=11770187
What a crazy shitwitch.
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
venture Southland tourism team leader Warrick Low said the enormous ship was like a mobile Gore.
Having been to Gore many years ago, I would have thought one was enough - let alone being trapped there (apologies to folk from Gore, I'm sure it is fantastic now).
I'm also guessing that the "Ovation of the sea" marketing department didn't approve that comment.
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Blah blah bloody blah. So read a fucking newspaper ! Support NZ journalism. You don't hear complaints about content, journalism, typos within newspapers huh ? The content is less but higher "quality". But oh no. The digital warriors demand news as it unfolds. Whatever that news is. For free and with no advertising. You get what you deserve. And pay for.
It's not all about you. There's another 4.5m people to consider. You're only interested in what you're interested in anyway. Plenty of other websites can accomodate you I'm sure. Stuff appeals to the masses and lots of people like the bs.
Stuff is the biggest local news website in NZ. The biggest are freaking FACEBOOK and GOOGLE.
Advertising has ALWAYS paid for journalism. Print is expensive. Print is real. Digital not so much. SO unless you're a massive advertiser, deal with it. MORONS ! -
@Lozzy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Blah blah bloody blah. So read a fucking newspaper ! Support NZ journalism. You don't hear complaints about content, journalism, typos within newspapers huh ? The content is less but higher "quality". But oh no. The digital warriors demand news as it unfolds. Whatever that news is. For free and with no advertising. You get what you deserve. And pay for.
It's not all about you. There's another 4.5m people to consider. You're only interested in what you're interested in anyway. Plenty of other websites can accomodate you I'm sure. Stuff appeals to the masses and lots of people like the bs.
Stuff is the biggest local news website in NZ. The biggest are freaking FACEBOOK and GOOGLE.
Advertising has ALWAYS paid for journalism. Print is expensive. Print is real. Digital not so much. SO unless you're a massive advertiser, deal with it. MORONS !What an odd rant and to think he/she calls the posters on this thread digital warriors.
Anyway lets look at newspaper circulations,
Whats that? oh right they are fucked, hell I didn't even know the sunday news was still a thing . Hmm wonder why?
If this years taught us anything its that the mainstream media have lost touch with their audience. The other 4.5 million people Lozzy asks us to consider don't want to pay for news written by people they don't trust. But the posters on this thread are the ones in the wrong.
Um ok.
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@jegga
Ummmm. I hear plenty of whinging from you jegga but not a lot of bright ideas. Nice graphs but so what ? Less people buy newspapers. We already knew that. Less people reading them, less people advertising, less money for journalism.Not an odd rant. I'm sick of hearing digital warriors whinge endlessly about "MSM".
Your comments on a random website aren't news. Theyre not fact. They're just comments. Equal in relevance to mine. Just blah blah for people who have something to say and no mandate, no facts, no legitimate website to waffle on. Just opinion .... irrelevant, anonymous people waffling on. Like me haha
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@Lozzy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga
Ummmm. I hear plenty of whinging from you jegga but not a lot of bright ideas. Nice graphs but so what ? Less people buy newspapers. We already knew that. Less people reading them, less people advertising, less money for journalism.Not an odd rant. I'm sick of hearing digital warriors whinge endlessly about "MSM".
Your comments on a random website aren't news. Theyre not fact. They're just comments. Equal in relevance to mine. Just blah blah for people who have something to say and no mandate, no facts, no legitimate website to waffle on. Just opinion .... irrelevant, anonymous people waffling on. Like me haha
When did I say my comments were news? I don't work in journalism I have my own shit to do so why are you looking to me for ideas about how to fix falling trust and circulation?
Have you just come from your work xmas do? Must have been a decent bar tab judging by your posts.
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Just read legitimate news jegga. Scoff all you like about the gossip articles surrounding it but journalists are proud and passionate about what they do and it pisses me off endlessly to keep hearing the beat up. You're just the one that copped it so sorry
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@Lozzy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Just read legitimate news jegga. Scoff all you like about the gossip articles surrounding it but journalists are proud and passionate about what they do and it pisses me off endlessly to keep hearing the beat up. You're just the one that copped it so sorry
I have no idea what makes you think you can tell me what I should and shouldn't do, you've been here for all of two days and made a clown of yourself on this thread. Denzel Washington sums up the pathetic state of the media these days quite well in this video.
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@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga Granny Herald had an article the other day proudly (fair enough too) trumpeting that both on-line and hard copy circulation had increased in the past year
Do you have a link mate? That'd be interesting to see, in the graph NBRs circulation has halved but they also put up a paywall too so its hard to gauge what really happened there.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=11770187
What a crazy shitwitch.
I'm not a massive fan of Xmas but not because I'm some sort of green warrior. I see a lot of people stressing out and getting further into debt because of the pressure to live up to expectations. The reality almost always disappoints. Throw in spending time with people you would normally avoid and add alcohol. No wonder it sees a rise in domestic violence and suicide.
But that's my personal opinion, coloured by the fact that the last time I was around kids on Xmas Day I was one myself. I find it boring but for all those that don't - fill your boots. I wouldn't be as arrogant as that oped writer.
Jegga I saw the Herald bit in a hard copy of the Herald I was reading at a pub. I'll try and find a link
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@Lozzy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Just read legitimate news jegga. Scoff all you like about the gossip articles surrounding it but journalists are proud and passionate about what they do and it pisses me off endlessly to keep hearing the beat up. You're just the one that copped it so sorry
Journalists cop it nowdays because as a profession they are not trusted, and with good reason. Journalists nowdays are just internet warriors with an opinion as well.Respect needs to be earnt, and the vast majority of journalists dont do that.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat xmas doesn't do much for me either for the exact reasons you just described, Racheal Stewart is an absolute loon though .
FFS jegga I read the athiest part and thought yeah maybe that's worth a read. What a fucking loser, I hope to hell she doesn't have kids.
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For what it's worth I enjoy doing Christmas, I have great memories from when I was a kid. Getting and decorating the tree, presents, food, all good stuff. We only did it with immediate family which probably helped, I know a lot of people feel obliged to share it with extended family that they otherwise wouldn't want to be around. Nowdays I just do it with the better half and our boy - we have a great time and it's awesome seeing how excited our son gets about Santa, the tree/decorations and of course the presents! Nothing bad in all of that.
And it doesn't have to be about Christianity. Plenty of stuff in Western cultures was born out of Christianity as that was obviously prevalent in the past. That doesn't mean we ditch our public holidays and celebrations - I think of it more of a celebration of Western culture than anything else.
Probably the only bad part of Christmas is people putting themselves under undue financial stress by spending more then they have to try and make a "perfect" Christmas. But that comes down to the individual, and unfortunately those that make bad decisions around financing stuff etc are at the bottom of the rung already due to a lifetime of bad decisions.
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@No-Quarter I hear you on the xmas takes on a whole new meaning part when you have kids .
