All Blacks 2025
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?
Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?
Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.
Yeah some Canes supporters on here were pretty harsh on him too.
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In all seriousness though I’m just hoping Proctor at least gets more of a chance to show what he has at international level because he was the best centre in Super Rugby last year and in his first start in 2025 he arguably has already had the best game by a centre this season when you factor in the opposition and where they played.
Ioane and Leinert-Brown have had plenty of time to nail down the 13 AB jersey and haven’t. No point in the ABs doing the same shit because we’ll just get the same results. No better opportunity to give Proctor an opportunity outside Jordie against an understrength French side in July as well.
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,
It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.
I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.
Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French. I’ve also included AJ Lam because for me he’s been pretty damn classy for the Blues and can cover wing if required.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Sititi
- Lakai
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- Taukei’aho
- De Groot
- Tosi
- Holland
- Kirifi
- Ratima
- Barrett
- Lam
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?
Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.
No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?
Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.
No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently
An incumbent that hasn’t played well for at least two seasons now.
What have the ABs become? The centre of mediocrity?
I’m not saying drop Ioane, just move him back to the position where he flourished.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?
Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.
No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently
An incumbent that hasn’t played well for at least two seasons now.
What have the ABs become? The centre of mediocrity?
I’m not saying drop Ioane, just move him back to the position where he flourished.
others positions have their issues as well, not just the midfield
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?
Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.
No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently
An incumbent that hasn’t played well for at least two seasons now.
What have the ABs become? The centre of mediocrity?
I’m not saying drop Ioane, just move him back to the position where he flourished.
others positions have their issues as well, not just the midfield
I’m glad you picked up on my play on words.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,
It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.
I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.
Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Sititi
- Lakai
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- Taukei’aho
- De Groot
- Tosi
- Holland
- Kirifi
- Ratima
- Barrett
- Lam
I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.
With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,
It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.
I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.
Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Sititi
- Lakai
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- Taukei’aho
- De Groot
- Tosi
- Holland
- Kirifi
- Ratima
- Barrett
- Lam
I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.
With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).
Yeah I agree I can’t see that team happening
Or deserve those selections
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The other interesting ones are Samisoni and Asafo Aumua. I seriously would not discount McAllister usurping them. Moananu has probably been the form Super Rugby hooker, but I suspect McAllister's game would translate better to the international arena, which is often something cited by Jason Ryan.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,
It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.
I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.
Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Sititi
- Lakai
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- Taukei’aho
- De Groot
- Tosi
- Holland
- Kirifi
- Ratima
- Barrett
- Lam
I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.
With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).
Yeah I agree I can’t see that team happening
Or deserve those selections
.Says the Blackadder fan.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,
It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.
I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.
Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Sititi
- Lakai
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- Taukei’aho
- De Groot
- Tosi
- Holland
- Kirifi
- Ratima
- Barrett
- Lam
I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.
With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).
I didn’t say it was the team Razor would pick, it’s the team I would pick. I reckon that loose trio would be bloody hard to stop. Forget Finau, what’s he actually done apart from putting a few big shots on a couple of tiny number 10s?
Kirifi off the bench in the last twenty wouldn’t be a bad idea for mine.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The other interesting ones are Samisoni and Asafo Aumua. I seriously would not discount McAllister usurping them. Moananu has probably been the form Super Rugby hooker, but I suspect McAllister's game would translate better to the international arena, which is often something cited by Jason Ryan.
McCalister? You’re having a laugh. Moananu isn’t bad at all but he’ll need a second year in Super to show he can keep the standard from what he’s shown this year.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,
It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.
I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.
Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Sititi
- Lakai
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- Taukei’aho
- De Groot
- Tosi
- Holland
- Kirifi
- Ratima
- Barrett
- Lam
I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.
With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).
Yeah I agree I can’t see that team happening
Or deserve those selections
.Says the Blackadder fan.
Says the in love with Love
man who has done fuck all.
And 2 midget Cane LFs is not the way to go one yeah but two nah. -
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,
It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.
I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.
Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Sititi
- Lakai
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- Taukei’aho
- De Groot
- Tosi
- Holland
- Kirifi
- Ratima
- Barrett
- Lam
I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.
With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).
I didn’t say it was the team Razor would pick, it’s the team I would pick. I reckon that loose trio would be bloody hard to stop. Forget Finau, what’s he actually done apart from putting a few big shots on a couple of tiny number 10s?
I know that is your team, but I personally don't think it is a coincidence Moana have been so good, with Ardie looking like a million bucks with a proper blindisde and a proper eight next to him. Ardie excels in the wide channels, and is the best openside we have. Peter Lakai is a fucken awesome player, so I'd probably stick him on the bench, because i think he has 100 test AB written all over him.
I am also not overly convinced by Finau, so potentially if we are looking for an eight to do the dirty work with Sititi roaming at six, I couple be intrigued to see CLW rewarded with the spot at eight.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
The other interesting ones are Samisoni and Asafo Aumua. I seriously would not discount McAllister usurping them. Moananu has probably been the form Super Rugby hooker, but I suspect McAllister's game would translate better to the international arena, which is often something cited by Jason Ryan.
McCalister? You’re having a laugh. Moananu isn’t bad at all but he’ll need a second year in Super to show he can keep the standard from what he’s shown this year.
McAlister has been the Chiefs best hooker this year, and has been really good - and has always been really good. Has struggled with injuries, but without Taylor blocking his path, he has strung together a strong season. Has been far more consistent than Taukei'aho and Aumua.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,
It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.
I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.
Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Va’ai
- Sititi
- Lakai
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
- Barrett
- Proctor
- Jordan
- Love
- Taukei’aho
- De Groot
- Tosi
- Holland
- Kirifi
- Ratima
- Barrett
- Lam
I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.
With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).
Yeah I agree I can’t see that team happening
Or deserve those selections
.Says the Blackadder fan.
Says the in love with Love
man who has done fuck all.
And 2 midget Cane LFs is not the way to go one yeah but two nah.I’d have Jordan at fullback but he lacks a proper kicking game which you need at international level. IMO, he’s also a better wing for the ABs.
That leaves either Beaudy or Love at fullback and I would sway towards Love because he’s only going to get better, while Barrett is only going to decline with age.
