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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dogmeat" data-cid="601986" data-time="1470005052"><p>Wasn't suggesting he doesn't but no one ever gets it right every time and for every story about someone with a premonition about getting off the doomed flight there's 100 embarrassed fools who didn't get away on their holiday</p></blockquote>Oh for sure. Experience just gives you the ability to potentially learn from more mistakes. But it doesn't stop you from making new ones
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<p><strong>A good step towards that goal then would be for people to stop attacking Trump supporters, Brexit supporters etc etc.</strong> It seems nowadays tolerance is preached but not actually actioned. Your article is a great example, the pomposity and self righteousness is incredibly confrontational, the whole article is just one long 'Fuck You' to anyone who does not agree with the political leanings of the author. In fact to use your words the article was pigeon holing and bullshit and the author being a fluffy bunny.</p>
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<p>And for the record, I think tolerance is a bit of a fools gold, the reality is that that you are not going to be very tolerant of people who treat you like shit, do things you dont like or who are just twats.</p>
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<p>You must be kidding right... I'm sure this was meant as a joke.</p>
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<p>This statement is so much like the Christian Fundies in the US who keep talking about a "war on christianity".</p>
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<p>You surely must see that the instigators of most of the attacks have been the Trump and Brexit supporters who saw the debate as an excuse to let lose all of their ignorance and prejudices. They see that behavior from Trump and the leaders of the Exit movement and they saw it is a mandate to let lose their own bile and venom.</p>
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<p>And I stand by that, saying that logic and facts should not be used in a debate of ideas is indicative....</p>
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<p>have you actually read it now then? because if so then you are not understanding that point. it is pretty clear from the context that that statement is saying that the rhetoric of people like trump - scaremongering, and generally not using facts or logic - isn't being defeated by the use of facts and logic. i.e. 'his' side needs to fight the same way.</p>
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<p>You must be kidding right... I'm sure this was meant as a joke.</p>
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<p>This statement is so much like the Christian Fundies in the US who keep talking about a "war on christianity".</p>
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<p>You surely must see that the instigators of most of the attacks have been the Trump and Brexit supporters who saw the debate as an excuse to let lose all of their ignorance and prejudices. They see that behavior from Trump and the leaders of the Exit movement and they saw it is a mandate to let lose their own bile and venom.</p>
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<p>Then when people call them out on their bullshit, they act like the victim.</p>
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<p>Not at all. It is all a matter of perspective.  I think there is very little tolerance from any side nowadays. </p>
<p>You seriously think that there is tolerance towards people who support Trump? You just called them ignorant and prejudiced... people who loosed vile and venom... and who spoke bullshit. if that is what yuo think.. fair enough.. and your views are held by many others. But it is the very opposite of tolerance. And indeed those whom you attack probably see it as the prejudiced ignorance... bile and venom.. bullshit even. But of course you would deny that as you consider yourself correct. But so do they.</p> -
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<p>have you actually read it now then? because if so then you are not understanding that point. it is pretty clear from the context that that statement is saying that the rhetoric of people like trump - scaremongering, and generally not using facts or logic - isn't being defeated by the use of facts and logic. i.e. 'his' side needs to fight the same way.</p>
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<p>it's fine to disagree with the points in the article, there's lots i disagree with - but you're just taking a soundbite out of context to make a specious point.</p>
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<p>I have read it yes. And yes I understand the point thanks. Â And I still think it is a slanted argument using slanted points of reference. Maybe facts and logic are not winning the argument because those facts and logic are not correct? And are in fact just ideology?</p>
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<p>But ok... you can think that the way to defeat bad ideas is to avoid facts and logic. </p>
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<p>The thing is if we are talking about a <strong><em>world war</em></strong>, I get how that can start in 2 places - the South China Sea, and the Baltic states.</p>
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<p>Its a very short join the dots to get from either of those to WW3</p>
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<p>What I don't get is how you go from appeasemernt of ISIS to world war? World war against who? Russia and the US are co-ordinating in Syria against IS, China has zero involvement. Europe & the US are not threatened at all, nor is Russia, certainly not in a "we could all be destroyed" point of view as in WW1 & WW2. Even in the middle East Israel is currently co-operating with Jordan, Egypt & Saudi (!)</p>
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<p>The actual threat posted by radical islam is tiny. Spectacular, but tiny.</p>
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<p>In contrast its incredibly easy to go from Trump presidency - recognise the annexing of Crimea - announce US will only support Nato if Nato spends the 2% on defence it commited to - Nato very much does not - Putin does to Estonia what he did to Ukraine - UK jet shoots down Russian jet in Lithuanian airspace etc... to major geopolitical conflict</p>
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<p>Same in the South China Sea with China attacking the Phillipines. Can anyone step from "appease Islam a bit" to "Nukes in the air!"?</p>
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<p>Both world wars kicked off because a country thought it could get away with a limited attack but treaty cascades broadened it. So anything that makes treaties look shakey is a bad thing. IE Germany calculated that the UK would not actually honor its treaty obligations, as it had backed away from conflict over German rearmament, the Rhineland, Austria etc. If China or Russia believe the US or Western europe will not honor its treatly obligations those threaties become a potential flashpoint. Â </p> -
Back to this:
Russian Ambassador to Turkey shot and killed in Ankara at some kind of exhibition. Early translations of the shooter's last rant (shot and killed by security forces) relate to Aleppo. Not sure beyond that.
Peep was a policeman in a suit. Not sure if he was there on duty, or just turned up randomly.
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@jegga said in Another World War "imminent"?:
Turkeys been slowly going feral Muslim since the goat fucker took over.
In other news a truck has crashed into a market in Germany killing nine people.
Yeah some interesting messages coming out about this as the media scramble to be first with the breaking news.
The Guardian is reporting the passenger in the truck was killed at the scene, but its unclear how. Also listed this:
The lorry was registered to a company in Stettin, Poland. It was on its way back to Poland, having started its journey in Italy. It was due to unload in Berlin where the driver was due to have a break.
The head of the company has said the registered driver was his cousin. He’s said he’d put his hand in the fire that his cousin would not have been behind this attack. The strong suspicion is that the vehicle was hijacked at some point during its journey.Hijacking would surely have raised some alarm bells? As for putting his hand in the fire: you might think they were never like that but then find out their apartment is drowning in ISIS posters.
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@jegga said in Another World War imminent?:
Putin will probably be offering support to the Gulanists after this if he isn't already doing it .
Has Merkel said something to dismiss the truck crash as an isolated incident from a lone wolf yet?
She needs to say something ASAP before anyone links this to Islam.
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Out on a limb prediction:
This was a lone wolf with mental issues. The fact that he's Muslim is purely coincidental and it could just as easily have been a Buddhist.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel it's because he was marginalised by western society as they refuse to fully embrace multiculturalism.
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@jegga said in Another World War imminent?:
@Rancid-Schnitzel it's because he was marginalised by western society as they refuse to fully embrace multiculturalism.
Let's cut to the chase. What it all boils down to is that straight white males are to blame.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Another World War imminent?:
Out on a limb prediction:
This was a lone wolf with mental issues. The fact that he's Muslim is purely coincidental and it could just as easily have been a Buddhist.
@jegga said in Another World War imminent?:
@Rancid-Schnitzel it's because he was marginalised by western society as they refuse to fully embrace multiculturalism.
@No-Quarter said in Another World War imminent?:
@jegga said in Another World War imminent?:
@Rancid-Schnitzel it's because he was marginalised by western society as they refuse to fully embrace multiculturalism.
Let's cut to the chase. What it all boils down to is that straight white males are to blame.
And so begins the same circle jerk we’ve read on here a hundred times before. Don’t forget to like each other’s posts boys.
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@Tim said in Another World War imminent?:
LOL
Ok... I admit it. I dont know Norm MacDonald.. was he tryign to be funny? Or was it just accidentally funny due to a complete lack of awareness?
Another World War imminent?