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@Catogrande said in US Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
Trump got a lot of women votes, to claim in any way or shape that those marchers represent all women is a nonsense. Those marchers represent salty Clinton voters with waaay to much time on their hands and nothing more.
Just a bunch of sore losers with vaginas having a huge moan over nothing.
Can we have a "Like but not for the right reasons" button?
Hey if you want to get excited about a whole bunch of sore loser Clinton supporters wandering about with vaginas on their heads, no problem.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
Trump got a lot of women votes, to claim in any way or shape that those marchers represent all women is a nonsense. Those marchers represent salty Clinton voters with waaay to much time on their hands and nothing more.
Just a bunch of sore losers with vaginas having a huge moan over nothing.
that's what makes me laugh about all these protests, how many of them either didn't vote or still voted for Trump...only thing worse than their seemingly pointless march, is those in other countries protesting too.
Trump has clearly shown he gives less than a f@ck about what anyone thinks, all this was known to voters prior to the election, do they think it will make one bit of difference after?
I appreciate some of those protesting are there for the sexist and derogatory remarks, but at the end of the day, they are marching against Trump.
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That woman is a piece of work eh. It beggars belief that people can take the time out of their day, dress up as a vagina, and go on a big march where they repeat everything some idiot says on a megaphone, without having any idea about who is organising the march and what that persons views on woman's rights are. She doesn't care about woman's rights, she's just anti-America. She can get fucked.
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@gollum said in US Politics:
Its a show of strength to congress as much as anything.
Trump is the most on record anti-woman president pretty much ever, confessed to sexual assault, accused of raping ex wife, wants to defund the no.1 source of womens healthcare in America, wants to stop safe available abortion etc. Nothing in that march will change that, but when it comes to pushing it through congress they will vote less with whats right or their core beliefs, more with what keeps their seat.
Its a play straight out of the Tea Party, who protested Obama a lot - especially on healthcare & tax reform. The TP vocally went to town over Obamacare WAY before most GOP congressmen, those who got on board were fine, those that didn't got thrown out by TP candidates.
If you put aside the silly claims of sexual assault and rape, defunding planned parenthood and stopping abortion aren't necessarily "anti-woman" stances. There are millions of woman in America that are completely on board with both of those. I get that you have your own stance on those issues, and that you are certain in your moral superiority, but calling anyone that disagrees with you "sexist" or any other stupid name does not help the debate one bit.
For what it's worth I think planned parenthood/abortion clinics are an absolute necessity in any country. But if you want to have that debate with people that are against it, you need to put your moral superiority and your petty name calling aside. It's that bullshit attitude that leads to the division and resentment we are seeing today.
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@No-Quarter said in US Politics:
That woman is a piece of work eh. It beggars belief that people can take the time out of their day, dress up as a vagina, and go on a big march where they repeat everything some idiot says on a megaphone, without having any idea about who is organising the march and what that persons views on woman's rights are. She doesn't care about woman's rights, she's just anti-America. She can get fucked.
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@Catogrande said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel No, I'm not joking mate. I concede that if you were trying to convict him of committing a sexual assault based on him admitting such, then the evidence would be far too flimsy. But if you think that what he said is anything other than an admission of committing those acts then I would have to say, please believe what you want to believe. And I will do the same.
So the evidence would be far too flimsy, but that's still enough for you to claim he's definitely admitted to sexual assault? Have you even listened to the audio and considered the context? Clearly not.
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@gollum said in US Politics:
Is big bird your word for part of your body? Because I can see which way you are leaning here & I feel like I might need an adult....
No, I just like to think that I possess the intellect and integrity to recognise and admit when I'm wrong.
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Kind of wonder how the TPPA stance sits with the veggo lefties ...
Yes I'm anti Trump, preferred Hillary, hate his petty childish attitude, but I find this particular situation highly amusing. Well if it wasn't for the loss of an agreement that was beneficial to us either side of the Ta$man.
And just to clarify further the protests against a democratically elected President - as much as I dislike him and think he could be farking dangerous- is some Third World shit and more abhorrent than Trump and his circus.
Also tend to think that he's "misunderestimating" the US influence on the wprld nowadays and as noted above China may have expanded into that position. Unless he can make America great again.
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@booboo said in US Politics:
Kind of wonder how the TPPA stance sits with the veggo lefties ...
Yes I'm anti Trump, preferred Hillary, hate his petty childish attitude, but I find this particular situation highly amusing. Well if it wasn't for the loss of an agreement that was beneficial to us either side of the Ta$man.
And just to clarify further the protests against a democratically elected President - as much as I dislike him and think he could be farking dangerous- is some Third World shit and more abhorrent than Trump and his circus.
Also tend to think that he's "misunderestimating" the US influence on the wprld nowadays and as noted above China may have expanded into that position. Unless he can make America great again.
Him withdrawing from the TPPA sucks donkey balls. Fuck you Hilary.
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I'm all against the crazy-let's-bring-in-sharia-law ridiculousness, and the bullshit of targeting his family. Such idiots need to be called out and labelled as the shit-heads they clearly are.
However, I think it's fair for women and men (some of whom are republicans) to voice their protest* against policies that Trump has proposed, and even started implementing. For example, people may have been marching to protest Trump instituting the gag rule again, which he apparently signed by executive order yesterday. That's a policy that ties US funding to no support whatsoever of abortion (and it was already protected by the Helmesly provision so that no money could be used for abortion).
- And the march seems to have influenced a number of my friends into joining volunteer groups, get-out-the-vote groups etc. so it may be a tea-party style way of going about building momentum on the left. I'm doubtful though.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@NTA Interesting times ahead. A probable move back to protectionism and the loss of American influence in the South East Asia region at the same time China is throwing money around buying friends.
It looks they're also considering to bring in a new import tax policy and corporate tax policy. So, going to get very interesting.
If they can get the USA dollar really high, they'll knock out the bad influence of the effect on imports, but exporters could be totally fucked if it leads to a high dollar, which isn't ideal since it's apparently worth 2.3 trillion dollars.
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@NTA said in US Politics:
Trump has signed an executive order to withdraw from the TPP.
Now see what you've done. People are talking about policy and decisions and implications and stuff.
We didn't get to over 5,000 posts talking about shit like that
Shame!
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@gt12 said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@NTA Interesting times ahead. A probable move back to protectionism and the loss of American influence in the South East Asia region at the same time China is throwing money around buying friends.
It looks they're also considering to bring in a new import tax policy and corporate tax policy. So, going to get very interesting.
If they can get the USA dollar really high, they'll knock out the bad influence of the effect on imports, but exporters could be totally fucked if it leads to a high dollar, which isn't ideal since it's apparently worth 2.3 trillion dollars.
The growth in America's export trade is predominantly in services; travel, intellectual property, business and financial trade. Moving from a production economy to the services economy has left traditional areas bereft of work opportunities. The same areas Trump plugged into.
America, just like everywhere else, comes out worse off if they can't utilise their natural advantage. What happens if they start producing goods at home and the price skyrockets because they have to pay Americans American level wages?
Australia would go to hell in a handbasket very quickly if we had to start producing our own goods again.
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@dogmeat said in US Politics:
@NTA said in US Politics:
Trump has signed an executive order to withdraw from the TPP.
Now see what you've done. People are talking about policy and decisions and implications and stuff.
We didn't get to over 5,000 posts talking about shit like that
Shame!
It's not really as interesting as crotch grabbing though is it?
Just trying to get back on topic.
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