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@Hooroo said in Ferners in London:
@Catogrande said in Ferners in London:
There have been stories of people jumping off the bridge. Into the Thames FFS! Have you seen how that mutha flows? Of course may be apocryphal but certainly there has been one woman pulled out of the river. Alive thankfully, but if she did jump in, Darwin has been robbed of a candidate.
I honestly don't see how you could say that. If you think you're in a life or death situation, generally the first thought of escape is the one you will take.
If some one came at me with a knife and I thought I was in trouble, I wouldn't think twice about hoisting into the river
Yep... I'd been thinking that one through, and there's not many places to go on the bridge with a 4WD coming at you and presumably traffic nearby... not sure how deep it is, but if I was by myself and the 4WD was getting too close I'd be lining it up too. Goodness knows what you do if you have the kids with you though...
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Fuck. Hope friend and family of the UK Fern crew are ok.
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there is a Facebook thing that people can click and it sends an alert to all their friends saying they are ok...I got one saying a Ferner in London is ok.
Just horrific, very little you can do to prepare for an attack using a vehicle as your weapon on a normal road.
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You've got to be pretty unlucky odds wise to get caught up in an isolated incident like this but thanks for the thoughts.
I work in E1 hipsterville where the worst thing someone could do is remove all the beard grooming oil from the shelves so nowhere near this. The missus had her building in lockdown though for a while and the cops where out in force all over target spots like train stations carrying the big toys.
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This isn't a terror attack and it's piss poor of everybody - journo's, media, PM's who are labelling this it.
It's a nutjob. Nutjobs have always existed and always will. Long after terrorist organisation have been wiped out, nutjobs will still be there.
Every shitty little fucking thing that happens shouldn't be credited to these fuckheads.
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@MajorRage said in Ferners in London:
This isn't a terror attack and it's piss poor of everybody - journo's, media, PM's who are labelling this it.
It's a nutjob. Nutjobs have always existed and always will. Long after terrorist organisation have been wiped out, nutjobs will still be there.
Every shitty little fucking thing that happens shouldn't be credited to these fuckheads.
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@MajorRage said in Ferners in London:
This isn't a terror attack and it's piss poor of everybody - journo's, media, PM's who are labelling this it.
It's a nutjob. Nutjobs have always existed and always will. Long after terrorist organisation have been wiped out, nutjobs will still be there.
Every shitty little fucking thing that happens shouldn't be credited to these fuckheads.
To be fair, the Acting Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police referred to it as a terrorist attack. I guess that makes it official, doesn't it?
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well it would meet the definition of terrorism?
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
Of course we don't know the reasons...
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@JC Not really the point I'm making honestly.
Bloomberg news has written right in front of me on their ticker "Attacker assumed to be influenced by international terrorism " & "suspect Islamist-related terrorism".
Which means immediately the likes of ISIS etc have some justifiable right to claim / own etc.
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@MajorRage Well as long as Bloomberg is correcting the Acting Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police...
I wonder if the perpetrator was known to police for his charitable acts before this awful accident?
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@jegga said in Ferners in London:
Or it could be that these organisations seek out mentally ill/mentally weak people and get them to do their dirty work?
Sadly it'll be that on top of everything else that the swines in those organisations do...
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@antipodean Still not the point.
Anyway, nothing else really to be commenting on until more facts come to hand. .
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I think calling it a terrorist attack these days just means it was undertaken by an islamic extremist. The melbourne bourke st killer wasn't categorised as a terrorist even though in effect they both killed people and caused terror in much a similar way. To be fair when someone says terrorist I immediately think of islamic extremist so I'm happy with how they are labelling it. Kinda like an article about an unexpected death followed by a link to lifeline which means suicide because we aren't supposed to say exactly what it was.
Whether this guy was a lone nut or put up to it by other fuckheads will get investigated. I personally don't think a lone nut killing people in the name of allah should be differentiated from a group of nuts doing the same thing.
Just glad the fluffybunny is dead though and won't be a further waste on society.
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@Rembrandt I do wonder if calling it a terrorist attack, even if there are no apparent links (at this stage) makes it easier for people to accept rather than some nutter went on a rampage and caused terror...
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@taniwharugby I don't really buy the whole 'links with terrorism' thing. Isis arent a super organised bunch in the west, this is no doubt due to the inevitable trail they would end up leaving which intelligence would find. I think they primarily rely on finding sympathisers via social media. These sympathisers may band together and create groups which may then lead to recruitment to the group but not specifically isis. In my mind they're not linked to Isis but they are still islamic terrorists just by the fact that they are using a literal interpretation of the qu'ran to insight terror. No doubt isis will claim them and why not?, there is a good chance they inspired them. I don't think it very likely isis can send funds or weapons to the uk so this in effect is as isis as it gets.
Different media but they were very careful not to call the melbourne guy a terrorist and you're right that was much harder for people to accept.
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