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@aucklandwarlord sorry I can only like that once, this is the reason I support all officers having cameras on . There's a definite revenue stream being wasted there on a police cam YouTube channel and imagine the money from ads that go with 2017 top 10 feral takedowns ( number six will shock you) or the top 10 least lucid ferals trying to talk their way out of a breath test?
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Yup. It's super easy for people to clutch their pearls and shriek 'only 12/13!' but there are pre teens, and then there are pre teens.
Some offenders are even younger, like the pair that got into my bathroom window and stole my entire make up bag last year. Now this window is round the back of my place, that you have to cross my property to find. Not near a driveway or thoroughfare or easy to get to. This was plotted out. Both fucking primary school, girl about 9, boy about 6. I chased after them, they lived nearby. Lied repeatedly to my face, but slowly their story unraveled. Handed back the bag, which was near empty, saying that was all that was in it.
Little shits had taken most items out of the bag and scattered them in their backyard, burying them in the vege patch, under shrubs etc. The father had the nerve to ask me to calm down. I would have punched him in the face, and backhanded those two little fuckwits into the middle of next week, but the mother and grandmother were so mortified, and apologetic as they helped me find things.
So don't fucking talk to me about the innocence of pre-teens. They know damn well when they are somewhere they aren't supposed to be, doing something they sure as shit aren't supposed to do. Like trespassing, breaking/entering, theft etc.
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like those little teenage fucks whose GRandmother and Mother turned them in this week...got out on bail then were involved in an incident of stealing a car, leading cops on a chase and hitting some cows.
Best we protect the little petals.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11825775
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@aucklandwarlord are you still working in the police in Auckland? (Probably a daft question)
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@taniwharugby Seven billion of us wandering the planet and people still make arguments against eugenics...
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To answer a question that came up earlier, the Maori Party will work with whoever is in govt:
Putting aside the various commentary in the article, the stats that come up are unpleasant reading:
Maori being 15% of the general population and yet making up 51% of the prison population (and 56% of the remand population), suggests that there is some work to do somewhere. I doubt it's caused by intergenerational trauma as suggested by an interviewee in the article, but unconscious bias and Maori being over-represented in the low income brackets causing impaired access to good lawyers probably have something to do with it.
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Interesting article and I agree with the basic points that we need to confront the over representation of Maori (and your points about access to good lawyers etc as well).
However, I'm not convinced that stuff have actually shown real racism - rather than being a reflection of the shitty economic and education problems surrounding Maori. For a supposedly lengthy investigation, they don't seem to be able to provide very strong personal examples.
Four years ago, he was charged with manslaughter following the death of a man in Auckland. Morrison, who was studying to be a paramedic, was working at a Salvation Army rehabilitation centre when a man who had been drinking heavily and had been involved in a previous stoush stumbled on to the property and smashed a glass door.
Morrison found the man down the road and confronted him about the damage.
"He just steps in and I think he's coming at me," Morrison says. "My instinct is to push him away [and] I catch him on the side of the face he falls down, hits his head on back of the ground."
Morrison calls an ambulance and starts giving the man first aid, but a week later he dies in hospital.
The police, meanwhile, allege Morrison punched the man with a closed fist - even though there is no evidence he had.
"It came down to a [witness] who had been drinking for 11 and a half hours who said he saw me run across the road and said that's all he saw. When he was asked in court, and also in his statement if he saw me punch the guy he said no."
A jury took less than two hours to find him not guilty.
That seems to me like the system working as it should to me? Hard to see racism when a jury took two hours to show that the case hadn't been made and he was acquitted. I'd like to see other similar examples of pakeha with prior records who weren't charged in order to consider any normative racism with that example.
I'd also like to see the data when controlling for income, education, and gang membership.
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I hope that these two get sued for this and the NZDF is telling the truth.
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Breakfast grilling English over this now.
Asking why they don't just do an enquiry to clear it up....there has been an independent in inquiry.
I wonder how much an inquiry would cost, to the taxpayer cos if allegations turned out unfounded would Hagar have to stump up?
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@taniwharugby of course he doesn't have to pay. But he should. Why is it he only releases his books in election year? #affecttheresult
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby of course he doesn't have to pay. But he should. Why is it he only releases his books in election year? #affecttheresult
Supposedly that was the co-author's fault - it was meant to be released last year but he didn't finish his research in time.
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If it turns out Hager and co have their 'facts' wrong I hope there is some type of comeback - especially if it requires an inquest.
ha ha as if we can ever believe that line about it being planned for release last year.
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Has anyone read the book? IIRC his original accusation was that the SAS went in on a revenge kill mission. Since then others have widened this to say that "civilians died" and "why were we there at all?" Second guessing those who made the decision when they acted on available intel is bullshit. If Hagar can't prove that it was a revenge mission then he should be brought to account. It is sad if innocent people died but shit, they live in a war zone FFS (not their fault but it is what it is), and war is one big SNAFU
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That's the way Hagar writes 1+1= whatever he can twist out of it. I read dirty politics and most of it was him reading what he could into people's Facebook conversations and emails to make them look as sinister as possible . most of the dirty politics he outlined was pretty tame by international standards .
Fortunately the emaciated little turd is preaching to the choir with his books and they have no effect outside of his leftard fan base , case in point the last election .
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
That's the way Hagar writes 1+1= whatever he can twist out of it. I read dirty politics and most of it was him reading what he could into people's Facebook conversations and emails to make them look as sinister as possible . most of the dirty politics he outlined was pretty tame by international standards .
Fortunately the emaciated little turd is preaching to the choir with his books and they have no effect outside of his leftard fan base , case in point the last election .
Just take a look at the comments on Stuff articles about him right now. He's getting torn apart by all and sundry.
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@No-Quarter not sure I'd be relying on Stuff coments as any indication of anything.
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@No-Quarter not sure I'd be relying on Stuff coments as any indication of anything.
Yeah, but when you're pushing bullshit conspiracy theory agenda's and you can't even get the Stuff trolls on your side you are really struggling...
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@gt12 John Tamihere has actually done a bunch of research into the justice system and it's handling of Maori - I'm not sure he's published much if it though (I've read a bunch of it while doing contract work). He looks more at institutional racism (culturalism?) and socio economics rather than just the blanket term 'racism' which it seems Stuff is pushing. I think he particularly looks at charging, sentencing etc of similar crimes. Hell, even Jegga, opps I mean Whaleoil thinks that Maori receive more severe sentences.
But, there's a definite proportion of it that comes down to socio economic factors. I've had a couple of mates who've worked as barristers sole and derived some of their revenue from legal aid and they've said they weren't really up to the task (these are guys who worked at Russell McVeigh etc) as they weren't specialised enough.
@Godder If the Labour Party got into govt and didn't need the one or two seats that the Maori Party would provide then they'll be outside looking in anyway.
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