Harvey Weinstein
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As mentioned, Weinstein is just the tip of the iceberg and I wonder if this will be a Catholic Church style tsunami of allegations against the entire industry. I certainly hope so. Some justice for the victims and comeuppance to those hypocritical piston wristed gibbons who preach moral virtue for everyone else but themselves.
If these people were willing to defend and work together with a guy who analy raped a 13 year old then no wonder they were "ignorant" of Weinstein's antics.
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
LA Times has come out with their preliminary list.
Asia Argento
Rosanna Arquette
Jessica Barth
Zoe Brock
Emma de Caunes
Cara Delavingne
Dawn Dunning
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez
Louisette Geiss
Judith Godreche
Heather Graham
Angelina Jolie
Ashley Judd
Katherine Kendall
Rose McGowan
Emily Nestor
Lauren O'Connor
Gwyneth Paltrow
Tomi-Ann Roberts
Lauren Sivan
Mira Sorvino
Lucia StollerLook for it to grow...
Add:
An unnamed female assistant
Laura Madden
Zelda Perkins
An unnamed female employee
Lucia Evans
An unnamed actress
Romola Garai
Liz Campbell
Jessica Hynes
Kate Beckinsale
Louise Godbold
Lea Seydoux
Claire Forlani
Florence Darel
Sophie Dix37 and counting, w/ 4 accusations of rape.
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The world seems to be falling over the "outspoken" Emma Thompson's BBC Newsnight interview in which she mentions "the wider problem in the industry."
From the article linked below:
Asked whether there were other men like Weinstein hiding in the entertainment industry, Thompson said there were "many".
"Maybe not to that degree," she continued.
So why doesn't she live up to her "outspoken" nature and just go on and name some of the "many"? Even just the single worst one she knew of (after Weinstein)?
You can't tell me that, right now, if she named someone else whose behaviour was like Weinstein's and her allegations were true, many victims' stories would be flushed out. Surely any actor who'd been harassed in any way is currently effectively immune to career repercussions.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11932907
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Oliver Stone, come on down... you're next.
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
(Rose McGowan must be their worse nightmare about now...)
McGowan has thrown away the Non-Disclosure Agreement she was paid off $100K; says Harvey raped her.
Word is the Weinstein Company is nearing financial collapse, with-or-without the name-change. McGowan probably knows they won't have the money, let alone nerve, to slap a lawsuit on her for breach of the NDA.
Genuine questiin can there be an enforceable agreement to suppress information about a crime?
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We're going to find out.
Disturbingly -- almost unbelievably -- Harvey had a sexual harrassment exemption WRITTEN INTO HIS EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT, and next week will be on video from his sex-therapy clinic in Arizona appealing to the Board of Directors to keep his job for wrongful dismissal.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11933171
This is the kind of thing victims are up against. The stakes are high and if you feel the chance of winning your day in court is minimal and the risk is loss of livelihood, reputation, everything, I can understand why everyone has kept quiet about HW this long. A prosecutor friend and I were chatting about something like this a while back and he said his firm did not waste top resources, ie their best barristers, on sexual assault he said she said cases because the win rate was so low. Sad but true
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@canefan said in Harvey Weinstein:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11933171
This is the kind of thing victims are up against. The stakes are high and if you feel the chance of winning your day in court is minimal and the risk is loss of livelihood, reputation, everything, I can understand why everyone has kept quiet about HW this long. A prosecutor friend and I were chatting about something like this a while back and he said his firm did not waste top resources, ie their best barristers, on sexual assault he said she said cases because the win rate was so low. Sad but true
Good. Because the alternative is even more of a nightmare.
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Not read full thread, but several random thoughts:
I may be being harsh, but to me many of the industry players coming out now to criticise HW seems a bit like the boy in Schindler's List who volunteers that the dead man stole the chicken. Instead they are culpable as they 'knew' many years ago and said nothing. That was the horrible reality of the Saville parallel.
Likewise, it is plain that HW is the tip of the iceberg. If there was a genuine desire to say something worthwhile insiders should now rather be taking the opportunity to come forward about the many others in the industry who do similar, even if maybe not as extreme as HW.
I can't help but wonder about the women who said yes to HW. There is a sizable list of no thanks, but you can bet your bottom dollar that the list of 'aspiring' ladies who took one for their careers runs in to the high hundreds. If that is right, it would be the case that he had a 'line' but it was much higher that most's and condoned the unacceptably forceful.
However, I suspect the dirty secret is that actresses as a whole have always been willing to put it about to further themselves, and that non-PC aspect is something the sisterhood is very quiet on.
Hope HW sees jail time.
And other similar types get named...
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I stopped updating Harvey's list but it's grown/still growing, and you can at at least a pair more accusations of rape.
The Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences pulled him membership ... which only highlights the question why they never did the same for Roman Polanski -- who was convicted not simply in the court of public opinion, but a real criminal court of law.
That's where the storty seems to be heading -- expanding to the culture of sexual arm-twisting & power in the industry, and not simply restricting itself to Harvey.
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@salacious-crumb 80 cents a sheet or 25 cents if you copy yourself is pretty standard isn't it?
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I'd be more worried about the total lack of timeline. Unless there is an official period or something in other info. Otherwise it's, take a number buddy...
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@paekakboyz said in Harvey Weinstein:
I'd be more worried about the total lack of timeline. Unless there is an official period or something in other info. Otherwise it's, take a number buddy...
You're right. I suppose that they are getting inundated with requests for info. I'm not sure they are allowed to discriminated between what they see as the serious and the frivolous?
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Am I the only one irritated by the #metoo trend?
In no way meaning to dismiss the feelings of anyone who has suffered genuine sexual harassment / abuse but it just seems to me like another bandwagon.
I'm sure most people (including even me) have be3en put into some uncomfortable or unwanted situations, but not everyone feels the need to #metoo.
I'd feel more sympathy if these "courageous people of all genders" had spoken out at the time - that would have been courageous. Now it seems like a whole lot of "I really didn't welcome that grope 30 years ago" is obscuring proper rationale debate and action on what is an ongoing issue and one likely to get worse not improve.