Bledisloe 3
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@booboo said in BLEDISLOE 3:
What fucks me off about this was the fucking MORONIC fucking mistakes we made.
Time after fucking time after FUCKING time.
Especially when we got on attack.
Dumb
Dumb
Dumb
Had the winning of that amd blew it.
Fuck
Didn't realise Wales were playing today
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@majorrage said in BLEDISLOE 3:
At the risk of sounding all English media ... finally, all the off the ball shit the AB's do costs us.
Barnes awarded two penalties against us at crucial times, both when we were in a middle of a good run, and both of needless, pointless off the ball rubbish. We take a lot of criticism from a lot of corners about the cleanest of non tacklers, past the ruck etc, and some of it is duly deserved. And today, these actions went along way to the Wallabies winning the match.
Momentum was everything this match - we had it in the first 30 mins, then the Aussies had it the next 30. Then twice when we had it again, we were penalised for needless, stupid, pointless with no upside, off the ball crap.
I hope this is a learning experience, and turning point.
Post of the Day 👏
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@westcoastie said in BLEDISLOE 3:
@booboo Is the difference in on-field leadership between Richie McCaw & Kieran Read starting to come through?
Too often, we just do dumb-shit lately.
Does Kieran just not have the Mana Richie had? hard to imagine TJP or SBW making dumb kicks if Richie was boss.
Wonder if a few egos are a bit out of check...I think you’re overstating it. Plenty of dumb play under Richie’s reign. Remember all the pointless grubber kicks by MacAllister and Weepu....
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@act-crusader True.
But at least Luke went out of the team post 2007, and Piri sorted his shit by the 2011 RWC so alls forgiven there..
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@majorrage said in BLEDISLOE 3:
At the risk of sounding all English media ... finally, all the off the ball shit the AB's do costs us.
I'm glad you said it.
One of the issues with the interpretation of Law in Rugby is the winners-are-grinners syndrome. Get away with something for long enough, you see it as a right of sorts.
When a ref finally pings you for it, suddenly THEY are at fault.
Of course, the opposition has to be close enough for it to matter, which is a rare thing for the ABs of late.
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@nta indeed ... look, it's part of the game and we aren't alone in doing it, but I do think it's crept more and more into being a decent sized part of our game.
Barnes wasn't wrong to penalise us today, but on many other days, nothing would have been blown.
As I said, I hope we learn from this.
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There were always going to be scratchy performances this year with the personnel changes and young players coming in.
But we have been here before. In 2012 after that Brisbane draw there were some signs that things weren’t right. We then went on to lose to England in a very convincing win to the Poms.
2010 Bledisloe series seems eerily similar to this year. First Bledisloe we won convincingly and then the next three were very scratchy performances.
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On a related matter: while this is unnecessary from Coles on Beale, there isn't much in it.
However, Coles looks a right twat carrying on for the rest of the game with niggle.
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The sky is falling, haha
How many losses would you guys be willing to stomach to ensure Ian Foster doesn't take over as coach?
Well, let's keep this question for 2019, and keep the stellar record until then.Personally, I'd hope we lose 50% of matches in 2019, win the RWC, and do a clean sweep of the coaching team.
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Was hoping I was wrong , but I kinda saw that coming ,
Wallabies are improving , they had more to play for , and ours was a bit of a thrown together team ,
in a game where all the trophies are already put away ,it shouldnt matter , but subconsciously it always does when the chips are down ,
But the wallabies are better , that is undeniable , which is good for rugby
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@booboo said in BLEDISLOE 3:
What fucks me off about this was the fucking MORONIC fucking mistakes we made.
Time after fucking time after FUCKING time.
Especially when we got on attack.
Dumb
Dumb
Dumb
Had the winning of that amd blew it.
Fuck
People are going on about the errors but the stats show Australia made twice as many errors as we did. Our handling was actually quite good. We just conceded more penalties and kicked away so much ball.
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@nta said in BLEDISLOE 3:
Was tossing up earlier today whether Barrett or Retallick was the bigger loss.
It's actually hard to call but maybe Barrett squeaks it for the sake of execution.
I don't think the first half plan was necessarily wrong - pin us back, kick points when available in the wet, try to build some pressure and acute a try or two. The odd contestable kick worked well.
Just that occasionally Sopoaga didn't get it quite right, and we settled on Aaron Smith's kicks better as the game went along. And of course SBW with that.. thing at the end.
Barrett might have given some of those through kicks just a bit more venom, or taken the line on a couple more times.
Retallick. Barrett (lock) is miles below Retallick. Whereas the gap between Sopoaga and BB isn't as great. Maybe the selectors need to have a good look at Garden Bachop.
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Just watched it, and fuck me that was the dumbest most stupid attacking play I’ve seen from the ABs in a long time.
Shovelling shit ball backwards and sideways, aimless kicking, giving away really dumb penalties while on attack. And that fucking kick from Havilli when you need a try with 4 minutes to play and you’re attacking inside the 22.
What happened to the pick and go after they used it to create the space for our first try - it was unsighted again.
And just errors at crucial times killed our chances in that game.DMac’s decision making was poor at the back and really put us under pressure.
They say defence wins matches, and the physicality we defended with should have been enough to get the job done with just a little bit of smart play. But unfortunately we so so fucking clueless when we had the ball that impressive defence was neutralised.
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Of the starting 15 last night, we were probably missing at least 6 first choice players. It has probably been awhile since we have been that short? In contrast the wallaby side was near full strength?
- (Moody)
- Coles
- (Franks)
- Whitelock
- (BBBR)
- (Kaino)
- Cane
- Read
- Smith
- (BB)
- Ioane
- SBW
- Crotty?
- (Dagg/NMS)
- (Smith)
I think the game highlighted we are missing some depth at lock, 6,8,10 and the midfield just isn't clicking consistently.
This wallaby side outplayed us and deserved to win. Plenty for the coaches to think about.
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