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I agree with @dogmeat I am now old enough to remember at least 3 iterations of 'WE ARE DOOMED!', usually accompanied by some pompous douche telling us to 'think of the next generation'. Fuck. Off.
What they really mean when they tell us to think of the next generation is ' do what we want or you hate children'.
The world is fine we have infinite resources, so are not in any kind of trouble.
I think western society is in a tricky spot, but that is around a lack of freedom, govt overreach and authoritarianism.Somehow govts and corporations have coninced enough plebs that in order to save the planet they must give away money, freedom and power to the rich, free and powerful, quite the nifty trick. Pretty much anyone who is overly enthusiastic about the climate change agenda is either in on the rort or is a willing fool.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
I agree with @dogmeat I am now old enough to remember at least 3 iterations of 'WE ARE DOOMED!', usually accompanied by some pompous douche telling us to 'think of the next generation'. Fuck. Off.
What they really mean when they tell us to think of the next generation is ' do what we want or you hate children'.
The world is fine we have infinite resources, so are not in any kind of trouble.
I think western society is in a tricky spot, but that is around a lack of freedom, govt overreach and authoritarianism.Somehow govts and corporations have coninced enough plebs that in order to save the planet they must give away money, freedom and power to the rich, free and powerful, quite the nifty trick. Pretty much anyone who is overly enthusiastic about the climate change agenda is either in on the rort or is a willing fool.
Word on that last para.
Following the fall of communism, everything seemed so positive. Our systems and values had won over. There was pride and confidence. Now that appears to have been replaced by self-flagellation and navel-gazing.
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I think these ladies are making the right choice, I support them 100%. Them not breeding is just a great thing.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
I think these ladies are making the right choice, I support them 100%. Them not breeding is just a great thing.
I find it sad more than anything now. What are they going to do in 12 years time when they find out its all just hysteria and their fertile years are coming to an end? Oh thats right..get even more bitter and twisted and help propagate new hysteria to shield them from the fact that they have been suckered out of their best years.
A western woman choosing not to have a baby is not going to do anything to stop population growth in developing nations that don't give a damn about the environment.
Having a child with all the possibilities that entails where that child might grow into someone who can contribute to the world and actually become part of the furture solution to this issue.
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@Rembrandt said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
I think these ladies are making the right choice, I support them 100%. Them not breeding is just a great thing.
A western woman choosing not to have a baby is not going to do anything to stop population growth in developing nations that don't give a damn about the environment.
Having a child with all the possibilities that entails where that child might grow into someone who can contribute to the world and actually become part of the furture solution to this issue.
GENDERIST
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@canefan said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@dogmeat can someone show me evidence that a man has carried and birthed a baby please? Otherwise those who say gender is a social construct can continue to go fuck themselves
You are such a bigot
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@jegga said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@canefan said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@dogmeat can someone show me evidence that a man has carried and birthed a baby please? Otherwise those who say gender is a social construct can continue to go fuck themselves
You are such a bigot
One of the dads must carry and grow the foetus in their body. Then physically give birth to it
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@canefan said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@jegga said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@canefan said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@dogmeat can someone show me evidence that a man has carried and birthed a baby please? Otherwise those who say gender is a social construct can continue to go fuck themselves
You are such a bigot
One of the dads must carry and grow the foetus in their body. Then physically give birth to it
Are you questioning the headline? It clearly states two men are expecting a baby. next thing you'll be telling us theres only two genders.
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@jegga said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@canefan said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@jegga said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@canefan said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@dogmeat can someone show me evidence that a man has carried and birthed a baby please? Otherwise those who say gender is a social construct can continue to go fuck themselves
You are such a bigot
One of the dads must carry and grow the foetus in their body. Then physically give birth to it
Are you questioning the headline? It clearly states two men are expecting a baby. next thing you'll be telling us theres only two genders.
You mean there's more than 2? I will concede that some people can't help bring attracted to the same sex or that some people truly feel trans gender. But science tells us that biologically there is only male and female
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Some random jumbled thoughts on this thought-provoking topic:
Without a doubt it is the best time to be alive. Our standard of living is way, way higher than anyone could have imagined even 60 odd years ago. The technology at our fingertips is crazy.
I think one key challenge we have in the west is around mental health. Kids today are getting extremely mixed messages from our education system, politically obsessed parents and activists, and wider society. Not to mention the "always connected" social media that means the playground politics and bullying follows them everywhere.
It's little wonder anxiety and depression is on the rise. Part of that is we've become a bit too progressive for our own good, and more traditional ideas around responsibility have taken a back seat to our youths detriment. That is self-correcting - see Jordan Peterson's popularity - but we've neglected the discussion about what constitutes a meaningful existence for a long time now.
I would also say we appear more politically polarized now, but that's hard to get a gauge on. The crazies congregate on social media and make things seem worse than they are, but it does worry me that the intolerance from people on both sides there is seeping into the real world.
Climate change is obviously a hot topic, I don't doubt we need to be very careful with our planets environment to ensure it stays liveable. But I'm far from convinced the solutions that get the most funding are going to make much difference. I also wonder why nuclear power gets no focus at all, despite it having the potential to provide all of our energy needs. I think with the advancement of technology we will find solutions.
I also think a key to that is lifting people out of poverty to unlock all of that potential. That's something we are doing very well at in recent times, with the standard of living dramatically improving all over the world.
I think overall we're heading in the right direction. Things will never be perfect - the default condition of life is suffering and tragedy - that our standard of living is so high despite that is nothing short of a miracle. But the real world is a brutal, messy, unforgiving place so it will always be easy for naysayers to spin a negative "the world is ending" narrative no matter how good we have things overall.
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One other point around youth mental health I forgot to mention is the number of kids growing up in broken homes with little stability in their lives. Without a doubt that is having a negative impact. It's so important that we prioritise childrens well-being.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
The world is fine we have infinite resources, so are not in any kind of trouble.
Are we taking that literally, or is it a resource accessibility assisted through tech type position?
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@Paekakboyz said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
The world is fine we have infinite resources, so are not in any kind of trouble.
Are we taking that literally, or is it a resource accessibility assisted through tech type position?
Literally.
Resources is raw materials factored by human imagination. Human imagination is infinite or at least immeasurable. Of course raw materials are finite( if we limit ourselves to this world).
Of course when you multiply a finite number by an infinite number the result is infinite.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Paekakboyz said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
The world is fine we have infinite resources, so are not in any kind of trouble.
Are we taking that literally, or is it a resource accessibility assisted through tech type position?
Literally.
Not if we ban things like offshore oil and gas exploration.
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@No-Quarter said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Paekakboyz said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
The world is fine we have infinite resources, so are not in any kind of trouble.
Are we taking that literally, or is it a resource accessibility assisted through tech type position?
Literally.
Not if we ban things like offshore oil and gas exploration.
You are confusing resources with raw materials.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@No-Quarter said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Paekakboyz said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
The world is fine we have infinite resources, so are not in any kind of trouble.
Are we taking that literally, or is it a resource accessibility assisted through tech type position?
Literally.
Not if we ban things like offshore oil and gas exploration.
You are confusing resources with raw materials.
Yes, I see what you mean now. Though if we outlaw the collection of raw materials I guess we limit our resources.
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@No-Quarter said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@No-Quarter said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Paekakboyz said in Is this thing sustainable?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Is this thing sustainable?:
The world is fine we have infinite resources, so are not in any kind of trouble.
Are we taking that literally, or is it a resource accessibility assisted through tech type position?
Literally.
Not if we ban things like offshore oil and gas exploration.
You are confusing resources with raw materials.
Yes, I see what you mean now. Though if we outlaw the collection of raw materials I guess we limit our resources.
Nope. Unless we outlaw collecting all raw materials, but even then.....
In 200 years we might decide that all we will collect is sea water.. you want to bet we couldnt do amazing things with just sea water in 200 years? In 1819, they would not have dream of some of the things we can do with materials they didnt even know existed or how to harvest. Our puny little 2019 imaginations cannot even comprehend what might be possible in 200 years. People just always apply todays ideas and tech to future shortages or supply. It has never worked that way and never will. -
@Baron-Silas-Greenback figured that was the take but thought I'd check 😁
Is this thing sustainable?