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I am disappointed but not surprised that the UK media is so fucking gutless and partisan... towards Europe.
Regardless of wether you want to remain or leave I think most people agree.
1/ The MP's have made a mess of it
2/ The EU has treated the UK like an enemy and done nothing to 'help' get a smooth Brexit happen.These 2 things would rally the people of the UK, fuck the commons, and fuck the EU negotiators and leadership. At a time then the country is so disunited they need to rally some Brit Grit and get a bit of war time spirit. The UK just has no fight.
EU leadership is scornful of the UK and UK voters. EU media s the the same, yet the UK leadership and media is almost subservient and pathetic. They need to grow some balls and actually fight hard on behalf of the country. I think to much of the leadership class and media are remainers and are suffering some serious Stockholm syndrome. -
@Rembrandt said in Brexit:
Surely there is no way in hell that the EU will want a No Deal way too much money on the table.
They’re in a position where they can always get more money. Until of course they can’t. But that’s a long way off.
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She hasn't covered herself in glory to date has she?
That said, we are where we are, and her comments on people being pissed off with MPs and just wanting to get on with things was spot on.
As for Corbyn, who's spent the last year preaching on the need to reach out and get a consensus on a deal, walking out on May's party leaders meeting because a Labour defector was in the room.... Jesus wept.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Brexit:
That said, we are where we are, and her comments on people being pissed off with MPs and just wanting to get on with things was spot on.
Absolutely. But trying to seperate herself from this? Fuck. Off.
As for Corbyn, who's spent the last year preaching on the need to reach out and get a consensus on a deal, walking out on May's party leaders meeting because a Labour defector was in the room.... Jesus wept.
Petty politics. Which Some may argue got us here in the first place.
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@MajorRage said in Brexit:
Absolutely. But trying to seperate herself from this? Fuck. Off.
Yep. They all share the blame. MPs are now accusing her of "stoking hatred of MPs" for stating the bleeding obvious and saying people are pissed off with Parliament and just want to get on with it.
The self-indulgence across the board is breathtaking
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Brexit:
@MajorRage said in Brexit:
... The self-indulgence across the board is breathtaking
And entirely predictable
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I’m on international, maybe that’s the difference? It was the show with the really big iPad-like board cutting to the reporter in Brussels.
Anyway, it’s short on strong sources, but here is the article:
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The online petition just requires a unique email address and the user to input a uk postal code
There’ll be loads of fake votes and they’ve had trouble with bots before
Let me get this straight a few million 'people' have 'signed' a 'petition' to tell the govt to ignore the actual votes of close to 20 million real people?
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Financial Times and BBC reporting she’ll go no deal if her shit-sandwich isn’t accepted.
Good - The EU should have been aware that was always the fall back position.
Then there's the imbeciles that want the will of the people recognised as a measure of democracy. As long as it involves ignoring the referendum they had.
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Yes
It's an official UK Gov site. 100k is enough to get the petition considered for debate in Parliament
It's getting more media attention than it should
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Amongst many, I personally think her biggest mistake was not saying about a month ago that it was her deal or no deal. If she is that wedded to it, she should have said so.
I imagine that Labor and others (i.e., the DUP) would have come around to her plan in such a case too. It's not like she had saved herself any more leverage anyway.
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