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@Salacious-Crumb said in The Folau Factor:
Jesus, the Waratahs are soft. Several years back the Crusaders went through an earthquake, played rejigged match fixtures all over the place and made the final. Israel Folau tweets Corinthians and the Waratahs need mommy to tuck them into bed.
Wounded Wallaby: Waratahs blame Folau for wrecking their season
I'd take that NZ Herald's take on it with a grain of salt. Even Phipps deserves to have his words taken in context and as Fitzpatrick says:
"It's been pretty glaring that there's been some stuff going on in our team but full credit to our guys and the resilience they've shown in really trying to stick to the job week to week,""I don't want to use that as an excuse because I feel we've prepared well, had game plans specifically prepared for the teams we were playing."
They weren't exactly on fire prior to this fiasco, so it's a bit rich to suggest that this is the reason the season has been shit. Phipp's passing can explain a healthy percentage...
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Nick Phipps.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11725503
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11701335
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/nick-phipps-takes-the-reins-as-international-rugbys-biggest-villain/So he is a bit of a whiney, petulant child that makes excuses i.e. a halfback
(but yes it must have been a bit off putting).
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@ACT-Crusader said in The Folau Factor:
@Snowy let’s not forget his cheating in the World Cup QF against Scotland.
or urinating in a public premises
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@Mokey said in The Folau Factor:
I saw Folau was trending on twitter last night, and it was for another anti-gay rant at his church.
To be honest, I wish the media would stop giving this twat a platform and oxygenising his bullshit. His sermons don't need to be reported on.
That's not going to happen unfortunately and feeds nicely into the conspiracy theory I heard at club rugby on the weekend; namely that the rights are coming up and it suits News Ltd to not have to pay a premium, so the more they report on it the more the brand is damaged in the short term.
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@Mokey said in The Folau Factor:
I saw Folau was trending on twitter last night, and it was for another anti-gay rant at his church.
To be honest, I wish the media would stop giving this twat a platform and oxygenising his bullshit. His sermons don't need to be reported on.
Not sure how I feel about editors quoting from church sermons. Bit of a closed, private environment I'd have thought. This type of reporting acceptable at any church, temple or mosque?
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Folau is full of bile and bitterness. His views are expressed with all the charm and eloquence of an irate stoat. Of course, he and his like are allowed to express their opinions in a free society, but there are many things more deserving of the media's attention.
Hopefully one day, Folau will reflect on the implications of his hate preaching for vulnerable young people (who contribute so much more to human progress than him), but I am not holding my breath. Until he has something worthwhile to say, he is best ignored.
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@Mokey said in The Folau Factor:
I saw Folau was trending on twitter last night, and it was for another anti-gay rant at his church.
To be honest, I wish the media would stop giving this twat a platform and oxygenising his bullshit. His sermons don't need to be reported on.
I didn't know about it until you reported on it.
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@sparky said in The Folau Factor:
Folau is full of bile and bitterness. His views are expressed with all the charm and eloquence of an irate stoat. Of course, he and his like are allowed to express their opinions in a free society, but there are many things more deserving of the media's attention.
Hopefully one day, Folau will reflect on the implications of his hate preaching for vulnerable young people (who contribute so much more to human progress than him), but I am not holding my breath. Until he has something worthwhile to say, he is best ignored.
As is this thread. Good grief Izzy just fuck right off.
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I disagree on the this thread being ignored.
Quite a few people earlier on were firmly of the opinion that Folau is being shafted properly by the ARU and should go after them. I'm sort of on the fence.
So the more I read about the sorts of things, but more I shift to thinking "fuck 'im"
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@taniwharugby said in The Folau Factor:
He should talk to Brian Tamaki, he has recanted his statement that the gays caused earthquakes, maybe together they can, er, ride off into the sunset hating all us sinners, somewhere else...Auckland islands are good
Izzy and Brian can have a Biggest Religious Dickhead contest if he moves back to NZ with his missus.
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@taniwharugby said in The Folau Factor:
@NTA I was more leaning toward Brian moving to the land that is girt by sea.
Yeah, nah. Nah. You keep him.
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I actually had a listen to the sermon in context. Not as bad as some are making it out. They video all their sermons going back ages so it was in no way a case of Folau doubling down in another homophobic rant.
Sermon was on doing things to please god, not to please man. He's positioning himself as a bit of a martyr here, christians thrown to the lions sort of thing. Talks a bit about other parishes letting go of their principles. Says its the devils work this gender transitioning in kids and having government replacing parents, also says homosexual marriage is a sin. Also mentions a future where everyone is microchipped and you could be punished for having the wrong beliefs so its important to stand on principle now.
Anyway I have absolutely no idea why he could possibly have any of these thoughts.
...I don't share Folau's beliefs but I respect that he is standing on principle here even if it could cost him millions. People are rightfully afraid to speak out against these excesses and its children here who are really paying the price. I'm fortunate that I have conservative gay friends who speak out against this pride movement, many don't so they naturally see acceptance of these behaviour as being representative of all members of the LGBTQQIP2SAA+ community, they also see what happens to people who dare to criticise this orthodoxy. What Folau is alluding to is by no means baseless and this mob mentality to run him out of town will do nothing to quell homophobia.
Times have changed, maybe the 'oppressed minority' has too.
Sports requiring athletes to support cultural positions