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@Tim said in US Politics:
They achieved all they could back in 2002 . Bizarre to think the kids conceived on the last leave of the soldiers who served there in 2001 are old enough to serve in the same place .
On the upside they are already one fifth of the way there, only 80 more years till they get a functioning government
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@Tim said in US Politics:
It's hard to not say "I told you so" every time this comes up, but I said at the time it was a dumb idea to expand the mission beyond hunting Bin Laden and that we were doomed to failure. The only question would be how much money and how many lives would be expended until someone had the gumption to admit it was all a disaster and move on.
But that would require people who weren't professionally invested in the advocacy and execution of this disaster to now be in charge and that's unlikely.
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One of my biggest issues with Trump was him being anti vaxxer , fortunately he seems to have seen the error of his ways and abandoned such silly anti science nonsense and is advocating people get their shots now .
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/president-trump-might-not-be-an-anti-vaxxer-anymore.html
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I am curious whether news media will cover this yuuge important story or deliberately ignore it and instead go hunting for more bonfires n’ witches to burn?
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This is an astounding clip from three nights ago, a CNN townhall with Nancy Pelosi. It’s been on youtube a couple times, but funnily keeps getting pulled. Another version popped up this past hour, so watch it while you can.
The gyst: Nancy Pelosi admits that as Speaker of the House and member of the House Intelligence Committee in 2002 she knew that Bush was lying about wmd and starting a war of aggression, and says none of that rised to the level of impeachment the way that corrupt Bad Orange Man has been abusing his power.
Tells me all I need to know about what a SCAM this whole process has been.
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Reading through the IG Report it has become clear that the FBI needs to be gutted and overhauled, which won’t be easy. Nobody can trust them. They’re corrupt, they lie, they break the law, they ensnare and litigate on false pretenses, they falsify reports and warrants ... they are Big Brother. Clint’s new film “Richard Jewell” could not have premiered at a more perfect moment.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in US Politics:
This is an astounding clip from three nights ago, a CNN townhall with Nancy Pelosi. It’s been on youtube a couple times, but funnily keeps getting pulled. Another version popped up this past hour, so watch it while you can.
The gyst: Nancy Pelosi admits that as Speaker of the House and member of the House Intelligence Committee in 2002 she knew that Bush was lying about wmd and starting a war of aggression, and says none of that rised to the level of impeachment the way that corrupt Bad Orange Man has been abusing his power.
Tells me all I need to know about what a SCAM this whole process has been.
Going to war to benefit Halliburton shareholders isn’t considered impeachable ?
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Going to war to benefit Halliburton shareholders isn’t considered impeachable ?
I wonder how much it was worth for her (if anything). And how much for trying to stop Trump (if anything of course). Nancy might be one of the few honest ones. And her and her husband really did make all their money from real estate investments.
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Just listening to Catch and Kill by Ronan Farrow .
It’s timing is awkward for Clinton if she does plan on throwing her hat into the ring . Not only was Harvey a longtime donor and supporter he also organised huge fundraisers for her senate and presidents runs .
You might think “so what?” she might not have known what a predator Weinstein was. It was pretty widely known and I find it hard to believe that she didn’t know but even if she didn’t Farrow was also writing a book about politics while he was working on the story . He had earlier worked for the state department with Clinton and they knew each other, she was going to be interviewed for the book and was keen to be part of it till Weinstein got wind of Farrows investigation and suddenly Clinton wanted nothing to do with him .I’m sure if she does run there’ll be even more awkward questions than last time
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ronan-farrow-says-relationship-with-clinton-cooled
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Booker is out .
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/cory-booker-ends-presidential-race/index.html
Bernie’s supporters bleat that the media is against him yet there’s been very little about him having Linda Sarsour as a campaign proxy . She’s a goldmine of awfulness, I’m sure if they were really against him they be drawing attention to his awful choice for a proxy
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The NCAA Football Championship Final is on right now, live national prime time tv, and Trump is at the game, announced and appears on the field with Melania and ROTC. Crowd seems genuinely surprised that he’s there, and ERUPTS in prolonged cheers and booming chants of U-S-A. If Dems were hoping for Impeachment Fever across the heartland, they’ll be sadly disappointed in what they just witnessed. This was not a Trump rally, It just kinda turned into one.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in US Politics:
The NCAA Football Championship Final is on right now, live national prime time tv, and Trump is at the game, announced and appears on the field with Melania and ROTC. Crowd seems genuinely surprised that he’s there, and ERUPTS in prolonged cheers and booming chants of U-S-A. If Dems were hoping for Impeachment Fever across the heartland, they’ll be sadly disappointed in what they just witnessed. This was not a Trump rally, It just kinda turned into one.
The crowd would have been pretty much his demographic though? If you are forking out $1000 for a ticket to the BCS title game (or have a corporate in) and are from South Carolina or Louisiana there is every chance you are an avid Trump supporter.
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@rotated Not if you listen to the media. They’ll tell you EVERYBODY hates Trump — especially if they have an education (this was the college championship) — and they’ll remind you for emphasis that THEY don’t know anybody who likes him.
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Vince Vaughan is apparently cancelled but it’s ok because his recent movies are shit apparently
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@jegga said in US Politics:
Vince Vaughan is apparently cancelled but it’s ok because his recent movies are shit apparently
I love Vince Vaughn. Swingers and Dodgeball have cemented him as a champ in my book.
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@mariner4life said in US Politics:
@jegga said in US Politics:
Vince Vaughan is apparently cancelled but it’s ok because his recent movies are shit apparently
I love Vince Vaughn. Swingers and Dodgeball have cemented him as a champ in my book.
Brawl in Cell block 99 is awesome.
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@jegga said in US Politics:
@mariner4life said in US Politics:
@jegga said in US Politics:
Vince Vaughan is apparently cancelled but it’s ok because his recent movies are shit apparently
I love Vince Vaughn. Swingers and Dodgeball have cemented him as a champ in my book.
Brawl in Cell block 99 is awesome.
I haven't seen that. worth it?
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@mariner4life said in US Politics:
@jegga said in US Politics:
@mariner4life said in US Politics:
@jegga said in US Politics:
Vince Vaughan is apparently cancelled but it’s ok because his recent movies are shit apparently
I love Vince Vaughn. Swingers and Dodgeball have cemented him as a champ in my book.
Brawl in Cell block 99 is awesome.
I haven't seen that. worth it?
I don’t think after the first 20 minutes the rest of the movie goes 5 minutes without someone being shot , stomped or getting a compound fracture.
Basically Strike Back in a prison .
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