Coronavirus - Overall
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Amazing how a handful, few hundred? Communist bureacrats have managed to pretty much fuck over the entire world
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12320909
For all our failures as Western democracies, this is worse
I don't know about worse. But every bit as bad in a different way. That they had the system in place and it was derailed by mid level apparatchiks is an epic fail. Heads will roll in the wake of this, they need to encourage more transparency down the chain of command
That's rubbish, it failed because the top in China are corrupt evil bastards and everyone knows it.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Amazing how a handful, few hundred? Communist bureacrats have managed to pretty much fuck over the entire world
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12320909
For all our failures as Western democracies, this is worse
I don't know about worse. But every bit as bad in a different way. That they had the system in place and it was derailed by mid level apparatchiks is an epic fail. Heads will roll in the wake of this, they need to encourage more transparency down the chain of command
That's rubbish, it failed because the top in China are corrupt evil bastards and everyone knows it.
This. If the people who report to you perceive that there is an advantage to be gained in hiding a difficult truth from you then your governance system is to blame. Doesn’t matter whether it’s a social club, a corporation or a country.
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The lifestyle website I used for marathon training (Kenzai) had a blog today about dealing with the psychological demands of this which was great. In a nutshell it said
- Set aside 30-60 mins a day to keep informed. Morning is best
- Communicate using apps with others a LOT
- Do not talk about the virus / media when speaking to others. Talk about life, strategies for kids etc.
So, one week into lockdown, I've stopped reading media / opinions / commentary from people that aren't experts and reverted to speaking more routinely with my friends / family and keep the focus specifically on life, social distancing with kids, exercise etc.
And it works.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The lifestyle website I used for marathon training (Kenzai) had a blog today about dealing with the psychological demands of this which was great. In a nutshell it said
- Set aside 30-60 mins a day to keep informed. Morning is best
- Communicate using apps with others a LOT
- Do not talk about the virus / media when speaking to others. Talk about life, strategies for kids etc.
So, one week into lockdown, I've stopped reading media / opinions / commentary from people that aren't experts and reverted to speaking more routinely with my friends / family and keep the focus specifically on life, social distancing with kids, exercise etc.
And it works.
So where does that leave the Fern....
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The lifestyle website I used for marathon training (Kenzai) had a blog today about dealing with the psychological demands of this which was great. In a nutshell it said
- Set aside 30-60 mins a day to keep informed. Morning is best
- Communicate using apps with others a LOT
- Do not talk about the virus / media when speaking to others. Talk about life, strategies for kids etc.
So, one week into lockdown, I've stopped reading media / opinions / commentary from people that aren't experts and reverted to speaking more routinely with my friends / family and keep the focus specifically on life, social distancing with kids, exercise etc.
And it works.
So where does that leave the Fern....
See Number 2 ...
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@JC said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Amazing how a handful, few hundred? Communist bureacrats have managed to pretty much fuck over the entire world
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12320909
For all our failures as Western democracies, this is worse
I don't know about worse. But every bit as bad in a different way. That they had the system in place and it was derailed by mid level apparatchiks is an epic fail. Heads will roll in the wake of this, they need to encourage more transparency down the chain of command
That's rubbish, it failed because the top in China are corrupt evil bastards and everyone knows it.
This. If the people who report to you perceive that there is an advantage to be gained in hiding a difficult truth from you then your governance system is to blame. Doesn’t matter whether it’s a social club, a corporation or a country.
Based on my dealings with them, that is their culture in a nutshell. Don't give bad news, don't make a decision because if it's wrong you're gone. Defer to others at all times
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@JC said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Machpants said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Amazing how a handful, few hundred? Communist bureacrats have managed to pretty much fuck over the entire world
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12320909
For all our failures as Western democracies, this is worse
I don't know about worse. But every bit as bad in a different way. That they had the system in place and it was derailed by mid level apparatchiks is an epic fail. Heads will roll in the wake of this, they need to encourage more transparency down the chain of command
That's rubbish, it failed because the top in China are corrupt evil bastards and everyone knows it.
This. If the people who report to you perceive that there is an advantage to be gained in hiding a difficult truth from you then your governance system is to blame. Doesn’t matter whether it’s a social club, a corporation or a country.
The first rule of being ruled by corrupt evil bastards? Dont give them bad news.
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Interesting stuff. So, last week a 21 year old died here of Coronavirus - with no underlying conditions. She was then effectively used as the poster-child for everybody to take note of the govt requirements to isolate etc.
However, apparently her death had nothing to do with Covid. NHS staff who dealt with it have been dubious as to where this information came from.
Note the guardian article has been removed pending investigation. All a bit odd.
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:
My fellow doctors should zip it and let the experts fight this virus
The bloke who's leading the UK response, Chris Whitty, is one of the top epidemiologists in the world and was responsible for containing Ebola in Africa. We are lucky to have him.
Doesn't stop rentaquote doctors with minimal qualifications telling us all that he's got it all wrong.
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That's a list of great hints.
Mrs M & I have stopped reading some of the newspapers as their agendas just wind us up. A quick whiz thru the news in the AM and then the daily breifings - where we enjoy any inane questions being ignored or slapped down.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:
My fellow doctors should zip it and let the experts fight this virus
The bloke who's leading the UK response, Chris Whitty, is one of the top epidemiologists in the world and was responsible for containing Ebola in Africa. We are lucky to have him.
Doesn't stop rentaquote doctors with minimal qualifications telling us all that he's got it all wrong.
Sells newspapers / clicks. Sad to think that this is still the cash for a lot of media during this time when their job is so incredibly important.
Nothing wrong with questioning tactics / theories etc - quite the opposite. However it does get scary when those far less qualified act like they are of equivalence, and then click hungry outlets publish the same.
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Is says something when The Daily Mail becomes one of the saner newspapers in this crisis..
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Is says something when The Daily Mail becomes one of the saner newspapers in this crisis..
< calms VM with soothing words whilst fitting him in his new jacket with really long arms that fasten at the back >
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
< calms VM with soothing words whilst fitting him in his new jacket with really long arms that fasten at the back >
The DM has got worse - the rest have got worser
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
< calms VM with soothing words whilst fitting him in his new jacket with really long arms that fasten at the back >
The DM has got worse - the rest have got worser
Which one is worserist?