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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Seems to have missed that it was opposition parties pushing for the election to be delayed as well.
But was this the result of the lock down. Otherwise this would not have happened
And its not a crock of shit. Its not 100% but most of it is not too far off.
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@Kruse said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
NZ may have contained the virus for now with the low mortality rates, but it has taken draconian policies and economic pain to get there
I am loving the fact that the word "draconian" is joining the pantheon of words, such as "ironic" and "acronym", with meanings being changed by fucking idiots.
Hash-tag: irony.
BTW - in case anybody missed it - I'm implying the author of that Sunday Telegraph piece was a virtue-signalling fucking idiot.I digress: acronym being changed to?
Acronym is now being commonly used for what should be "initialism".
F.B.I. - is not an acronym, it is an initialism.
An acronym is only when some sort of abbreviation actually becomes a word, ie: pronounced as a word. So... SCUBA - an initialism which became an acronym. Also POTUS. But also "wifi"... as an acronym doesn't need to be an initialism. I did draw a venn diagram once, I feel that strongly about it.Or something like that... I seem to recall there used to be a very subtle difference in the definition when one compared two of the major dictionaries.
Of course, working in IT - which is heavily, HEAVILY laden with initialisms, always being mislabelled as acronyms, is... stressful.Top pedantry, you should post your venn diagram!
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@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Not sure whether anyone on this thread is still interested in the numbers, but here they are:
It's a worry that three people are in ICU in a critical condition.
My mate reckons the deaths come some time after initial infection so we may see some fatalities from the South Auckland cluster in a few weeks. The most concerning one is the guy who is at North Shore. 30 years old or thereabouts. So much for being a yearly flu and a disease of the elderly
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Not sure whether anyone on this thread is still interested in the numbers, but here they are:
It's a worry that three people are in ICU in a critical condition.
My mate reckons the deaths come some time after initial infection so we may see some fatalities from the South Auckland cluster in a few weeks. The most concerning one is the guy who is at North Shore. 30 years old or thereabouts. So much for being a yearly flu and a disease of the elderly
Who has claimed its a disease of the elderly? (The young and healthy can get it but are likely to recover.)
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Not sure whether anyone on this thread is still interested in the numbers, but here they are:
It's a worry that three people are in ICU in a critical condition.
My mate reckons the deaths come some time after initial infection so we may see some fatalities from the South Auckland cluster in a few weeks. The most concerning one is the guy who is at North Shore. 30 years old or thereabouts. So much for being a yearly flu and a disease of the elderly
Who has claimed its a disease of the elderly? (The young and healthy can get it but are likely to recover)
Lots of people believe it to be true, all over the world
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Tim still relying on a vaccine to be found to map out our future
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Tim still relying on a vaccine to be found to map out our future
This virus is a no winner. Was talking to my sister in Melbourne this morning, says things are fucking grim. Floods of job losses, friend of hers says psych problems are going up, bad juju all around.
32% contraction in GDP for the USA between April and June
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53574953
20% in the UK
Less than 3% predicted for Oz and NZ
Whichever strategy you employ there will be pain, and the years of milk and honey have come to a blinding halt
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Auckland Council Chief Economist has today published his latest quarterly review
https://mcusercontent.com/b43f285355c582c3f958c1c0c/files/b5861fd2-e6b7-47c8-bb8d-1a669c547cf0/August_2020_AEQ.pdfFew quick(ish) take outs
- Despite thousands of job losses, the economic hit to Auckland and New Zealand from Wave One was smaller than many anticipated.
- At Level 4 lockdown, an estimated 40-48% of work could not be done, and 33-40% of economic activity could not be generated. That was followed by more than two weeks at Level 3 (estimated 20% reduction in economic activity) and almost four weeks of Level 2 (estimated 10% reduction in economic activity).
- Auckland lost more than 20,000 jobs. The unemployment rate probably rose closer to 6% than to the official estimate, which fell in June. Wage subsidies stood between workers and an even more precipitous plunge in employment. With wage subsidies set to come off in September – the right decision although one that would be tough for many –unemployment was set to nudge higher.
- Growth in jobseekers slowed sharply at Level 2.
- GDP fell much less than we anticipated in the March quarter, where a third of economic activity was not possible for a week.
- House prices hit a new seasonally-adjusted peak in June and then July and volumes returned to normal levels.
- Retail trade bounced strongly.
- Air New Zealand and then JetStar added domestic capacity much faster than they themselves appeared to anticipate (where else was anyone who still had a job going to go on holiday?).
- Resource and building consent applications returned to normal levels months ahead of expectations.
- Business confidence improved while remaining at weak levels.
- Our own estimates of unemployment, which we initially thought could rise above 10%, had to be revised down sharply. We were anticipating a peak of 7% before Wave Two, still much worse than before the pandemic, but a lot better than we’d expected.
- Notwithstanding the suspicious headline unemployment figure of 4%, looking under the hood reveals a less rosy picture. The underutilisation rate rose to 10.7% from 9.9% from the same time last year
- Regardless, job losses don’t appear to be as bad as originally anticipated, in large part buffered by the wage subsidy scheme
- Additionally, hours worked fell 10% nationally and the country’s labour force participation rate fell to 69.7 (the lowest since 2016).
- We estimate around $60-$75 million in GDP is lost each day that we are in Level 3. And each day in lockdown means that when we do open up, we do so from a lower level – with higher unemployment and lower GDP as a starting point.
- The Auckland median house price is defying all odds, retaining its strength. Prices in July set a new record in seasonally-adjusted terms. Interestingly, the number of homes sold in July was up an incredible 30% from July 2019, and 23% compared to June 2019. The recent strength means we have revised our price expectations. We still expect them to come off their highs, but by less than 5% as wage subsidies end and mortgage holidays wrap up, now extended to March 2021.
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Hi, been a many year stalker because of the great rugby detail I can get while living in the US. Played Prem rugby in Wellington - Rep rugby for Poverty Bay (means I was an average player).
The only reason I'm speaking up now is that it concerns me that lack of information pits us Kiwis against each other, I call home every week and am hoping to be home soon. Live in California, and have been in lockdown coming up to 6 months.
I see a lot of anxiety back home which is understandable, once you understand the impact of the virus (we have over 600k confirmed) I hope that you'd ask the same question I'm asking, the virus will not cease to exist. I'm hopeful the current outbreak in NZ can be contained, I pray that you don't need to go through this. What next? the virus will never be contained, vaccination will never be 100% effective. Has the flu back home been eradicated because of the lockdowns?
Here are the stats of the age group impact of this virus against the flu based on age groups - my mum is now in her 80s, I don't want her to die! even she's against stopping us from living, eradication is impossible, we need to ask those that are locking our country down and destroying people's lives (not their lives, their income), how will we get out of this? Stats of Covid for the US rated against the flu below (I'm in one of the higher risk groups, I know the risk and take it every day I walk outside).
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku/data
Kia Kaha
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@ngatiporoukiwi welcome! The important stuff... when did you play in Welly? We may have crossed paths...
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So the mother of the whanau that ran from quarantine in Hamilton got some jail time...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12360207
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of the 12 new ones, 7 were at the border
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