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@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@Siam I think trump jnr and Jared are plenty personally! Hopefully Baron can buck the trend.
Eric?
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Biden is relying on his media allies to suppress this story.
At no point has the campaign denied that these emails are false.Sources told Fox News that "the big guy" is a reference to the former vice president. The New York Post initially published the emails and other controversial messages that Fox News has also obtained.
The email includes a note that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate.” A proposed equity split references “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” with no further details. Fox News spoke to one of the people who was copied on the email, who confirmed its authenticity.
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Maybe they aren't bothering to give it more oxygen this close to the election? Again it's all 'sources' say X, Y, Z. Where are the full emails rather than the snippets being shared? If it's such a smoking gun that would blow any denial out of the water.
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@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
Maybe they aren't bothering to give it more oxygen this close to the election? Again it's all 'sources' say X, Y, Z. Where are the full emails rather than the snippets being shared? If it's such a smoking gun that would blow any denial out of the water.
I guess because its not. A smoking gun.
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@canefan said in US Politics:
@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
Maybe they aren't bothering to give it more oxygen this close to the election? Again it's all 'sources' say X, Y, Z. Where are the full emails rather than the snippets being shared? If it's such a smoking gun that would blow any denial out of the water.
I guess because its not. A smoking gun.
I m still struggling to see the revelations. We know Hunter got well paid jobs more through who he was rather than his abilities. No difference to the Trump/Kushner clan there. We also know that he has used his connections to further himself. Again no difference.
We know he had/ has a drug problem. Not hidden.
The Ukraine prosecutor stuff has been well investigated even by the republicans and although the visuals aren’t great Joe was actually asked by other parties to sort it out, not Hunter or Burisma. -
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@canefan said in US Politics:
@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
Maybe they aren't bothering to give it more oxygen this close to the election? Again it's all 'sources' say X, Y, Z. Where are the full emails rather than the snippets being shared? If it's such a smoking gun that would blow any denial out of the water.
I guess because its not. A smoking gun.
I m still struggling to see the revelations. We know Hunter got well paid jobs more through who he was rather than his abilities. No difference to the Trump/Kushner clan there. We also know that he has used his connections to further himself. Again no difference.
We know he had/ has a drug problem. Not hidden.
The Ukraine prosecutor stuff has been well investigated even by the republicans and although the visuals aren’t great Joe was actually asked by other parties to sort it out, not Hunter or Burisma.Its very different to Trump. The Trump allegations are weak. And various full on investigations found nothing
And the visuals are awful for Biden. He been protected by a corrupt news media but its not providing the protection it once did. Biden's under real pressure now. And just accusing others (like Trump) for what he has been doing might not work anymore.
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@Winger the visuals to who? Increase the degree of dislike for those that already don't like him? At this point the case is big on potential scandal but not 100% confirmed. If it's as cut and dried as claimed then show the proof. To use your language this comes across as weak.
There should be no difference in the requirements for evidence/proof for anyone. I wonder if similar info came out about a Trump family member you'd hold the same position on their supposed guilt.
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@Paekakboyz you are a rare voice speaking in the face of the echo chamber
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Question 1 is whether these are actually Hunter Biden's emails.
(Question 2 is if it is real, is there any incriminating stuff on it, which I agree with Crucial, is not clear yet.)
The best proof is that the campaign has not denied the authenticity of the emails.
This is a friend of John Paul's (the computer shop repairman) Dad laying out what happened in regard to Hunter Biden laptop. Easy to follow.
This is Adam Housley. He is an Emmy award winning journalist who left Fox News because too much of their coverage centered around Trump.
His bio is here.
Real journalists vet their stories very well.
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@Frank said in US Politics:
Question 1 is whether these are actually Hunter Biden's emails.
(Question 2 is if it is real, is there any incriminating stuff on it, which I agree with Crucial, is not clear yet.)
The best proof is that the campaign has not denied the authenticity of the emails.
This is a friend of John Paul's (the computer shop repairman) Dad laying out what happened in regard to Hunter Biden laptop. Easy to follow.
This is Adam Housley. He is an Emmy award winning journalist who left Fox News because too much of their coverage centered around Trump.
His bio is here.
Real journalists vet their stories very well.
So, unless he is 100% making shit up and hasn't veted it....Bro, that is a bloody low threshold of guilt.
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@Paekakboyz
Never said anyone was guilty.Said the probability is the emails are real because of
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the Biden campaign not denying it.
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Adam Housley is very solid and honest reporter. He won't ruin his reputation over this.
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@Paekakboyz
1st step is to see if the emails are really Hunter's.
2nd step is to make it clear what is in them if it concerns voters.If they are true, what has been said and revealed already is concerning.
See The Big Guy reference Hunter reportedly made carving out an equity stake for Joe Biden to be held in Hunter's name or the email shown where it is implied Hunter must give him half his salary.
The NY Post has the information putting out info' each day on what they received.
This one paints Joe Biden in a positive light.Heck of a Russian dis-info effort !!!!
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@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@Winger the visuals to who? Increase the degree of dislike for those that already don't like him? At this point the case is big on potential scandal but not 100% confirmed. If it's as cut and dried as claimed then show the proof. To use your language this comes across as weak.
There should be no difference in the requirements for evidence/proof for anyone. I wonder if similar info came out about a Trump family member you'd hold the same position on their supposed guilt.
Biden was stupid bragging about having the prosecutor fired. That just happened to be investigating the company his son was getting money from. If Trump did likewise (not the made up nonsense about his telephone call) I would have written him off by now as just another crocked politician.
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