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@Godder said in US Politics:
Nice speech from Biden, didn't declare victory but said it was looking good, and very much an offer of bipartisan government. Also noted that he, Senator Harris and his advisors had been contacting experts to start working on plans for Covid and the economic recovery.
Looks like the Senate is 50-48 to the Republicans with both Georgia senate races going to a runoff, so still in play but probably going to remain Republican.
Ohh that’s what a classy statesman like speech sounds like.
Trump has been gagged today from reports but after that I bet he’ll be hard to keep quiet
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@Godder said in US Politics:
Nice speech from Biden, didn't declare victory
so whats with the whole not declaring/claiming victory?
I saw a headline earlier claiming Trump had warned Biden against claiming victory.
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@taniwharugby still too close to call with absolute certainty I’d guess
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@Kiwiwomble but is it a big deal?
Wasnt Trump claiming it earlier in the week?
Seems premature for anyone to claim it
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@taniwharugby Waiting for networks or AP I think, but agree that's it still possible for it to go either way. Main reason to wait is credibility - much easier to get somewhere with the formation of government (preparing transition plans with the public service and legislature, arranging cabinet selections etc.) when people believe you have won, and that belief is a lot more likely when it's reported by multiple independent sources i.e. not the campaign itself.
Trump declared himself the winner early on, but one surmises from the tenor of his more recent communication that he has at least worked out that it's not a guarantee...
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@taniwharugby he doesn’t want to take a leaf out of trumps playbook, can’t blame him
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@Kiwiwomble was more meaning that Trump supposedly warned him not to, despite the fact he had already...but then not alot surprises when it comes to Trump does it!
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Heavily armed Trumpers surrounding a vote counting centre?
That’s the type of stuff the US used to see elsewhere in the world and intervene as the western world police.
Winding up distrust of officials and putting them in situations like that is indefensible.
Boggles the mind that some still make excuses for this idiot. He proves every day why he is unfit for office. -
I think AP and Fox have both called Arizona for Biden, so it shouldn't long before others (e.g., NY Times) join in.
With PA to be called soon (I'd say) and the margin possibly going over .5% (although there will still be a recount), there will be a lot of pressure on Trump, not that I think he'll care.
Amazingly, it looks like it will be 306 to 229 so there would be too many court battles to win, shirley?
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@gt12 said in US Politics:
I think AP and Fox have both called Arizona for Biden, so it shouldn't long before others (e.g., NY Times) join in.
With PA to be called soon (I'd say) and the margin possibly going over .5% (although there will still be a recount), there will be a lot of pressure on Trump, not that I think he'll care.
Amazingly, it looks like it will be 306 to 229 so there would be too many court battles to win, shirley?
Unless there is lots of fraud (or errors etc) as Trump claims
like this
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@pakman said in US Politics:
Lots of rechecking/recounting coming in a few states?
Probably, but I really doubt that the Zombie vote is going to change much overall.
A dead Republican won a state legislature seat in North Dakota so if anything I can only assume the zombie vote skews conservative.
> It was corona virus too wasn't it?
Some sort of irony there, given Trumps corona actions and that he was GOP.
Dead people voting is hilarious.
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@Snowy said in US Politics:
I'm going to use it.
Wife : "How many beers have you had?"
Me "Non-zero"Non-zero sounds like a great drink name.
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@nostrildamus said in US Politics:
Why is that suspicious?
People knew he died. It was to late in the process to get him off the ballot. The party will select who takes his spot
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@Crucial said in US Politics:
Heavily armed Trumpers surrounding a vote counting centre?
That’s the type of stuff the US used to see elsewhere in the world and intervene as the western world police.Over to our Kenya correspondent ( I recommend you read the thread - quite funny on exactly the point you're making):
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Latin Americans are making fun of America as a banana republic.
They've been waiting awhile for revenge on O. Henry
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@NTA said in US Politics:
@Crucial said in US Politics:
Heavily armed Trumpers surrounding a vote counting centre?
That’s the type of stuff the US used to see elsewhere in the world and intervene as the western world police.Over to our Kenya correspondent ( I recommend you read the thread - quite funny on exactly the point you're making):
I particularly liked this one
#BREAKING On the eve of US elections, a well-placed source says Kenya will call an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss worsening tensions in the volatile, strategically located Western nation. Top on the agenda will be securing the country's nuclear stockpile.
If it wasn’t so true it would be funny.
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The election is pretty much done.
The problem is what kind of a shitstorm is Biden going to walk into ?
Three days of record new numbers of covid cases in a row. US had 132k cases yesterday.
Trump won't leave office for 2.5 months, the US can't really cope with another 2.5 months of inaction. As unpalatable as it might be, the US need a short sharp nationwide lockdown to stop the rot. 2-3 weeks just to get things back under control again.
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@Damo said in US Politics:
The election is pretty much done.
The problem is what kind of a shitstorm is Biden going to walk into ?
Three days of record new numbers of covid cases in a row. US had 132k cases yesterday.
Trump won't leave office for 2.5 months, the US can't really cope with another 2.5 months of inaction. As unpalatable as it might be, the US need a short sharp nationwide lockdown to stop the rot. 2-3 weeks just to get things back under control again.
With a militant group of pissy Trumpers throwing their toys? Can’t see that working.
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