Too horrific for words - Moko Rangitoheriri case
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<p>Veitch is revolting. Everything he does is about the PR. If he actually gave a shit about the victim, he would have apologised to HER not the fucking public. And wouldn't keep dragging up the old muck in the press so her and her family have to keep reliving it.</p>
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<p>He's just another me me me media whore. That whole article is turning himself into the victim.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mokey" data-cid="578192" data-time="1462756580"><p>Veitch is revolting. Everything he does is about the PR. If he actually gave a shit about the victim, he would have apologised to HER not the fucking public. And wouldn't keep dragging up the old muck in the press so her and her family have to keep reliving it.<br><br>
He's just another me me me media whore. That whole article is turning himself into the victim.<br><br>
Kudos to the dad for writing that article in response, and adding a few facts to the mix.</p></blockquote>
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Kudos to the dad for not marching around to Veitch's place and giving the prick a hiding and throwing him down a set of stairs ( I'm sure he wishes he could tho) <br>
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Think he said something on air kind of a throw away bit. Basically again sort of portraying himself as some kind of victim<br>
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<p>I find Veitch odious. There was a thread about ferners being at parties with TV "stars". I went to one with Veitch and other Auckland Glitterati years and years ago and thought him to be a posturing twat. I'd come from overseas and had no idea who he was. But whatever</p>
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<p>A well reasoned letter from the woman in the Veitch incident's father in stuff I thought</p> -
<p>the comment he made a few months back was about the 'poisonous relationship' he was in that ended publically...</p>
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<p>poor choice of words in the headline</p>
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<p>It should be unbelievable, but it's not.</p>
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<p>I'm not really against the death penalty, because there's some things that are so heinous that it's deserved. I am against prisoners meting out "justice" because it's fairly likely that the person delivering the beatings is an equally despicable fucker who is getting his/her rocks off by doing so.</p>
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<p>Overall, I'm of the opinion that there should be prison cells that some people are put in - on their own - and then the door is bricked up behind them. Give them a bed, a toilet, a playstation and a slot that their food goes in and they never come out and no-one ever talks to them again.</p>
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<p>But no controller for the playstation... they can have a monitor and games for it though.</p> -
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<p>I find Veitch odious. There was a thread about ferners being at parties with TV "stars". I went to one with Veitch and other Auckland Glitterati years and years ago and thought him to be a posturing twat. I'd come from overseas and had no idea who he was. But whatever</p>
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<p>A well reasoned letter from the woman in the Veitch incident's father in stuff I thought</p>
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<p>I met him many years ago in Queenstown at winter festival, for some reason I was at the same dinner table with him and he was just an utter piston wristed gibbon (I think this was back in his commercial radio days) so I tried to avoid listening to him from then onward.</p> -
<p>Yup. My dad has known Peter Williams for a long time (him and Mum taught with Peter's parents) so when I was at Uni, Peter gave me a tour around TVNZ, and said anytime I needed a hand with media stuff, to give him a yell (he really is a nice, friendly guy). Anyhoo, I had to write a feature in my third year, and Peter agreed to let me profile him. Interviewed him, and some of his colleagues (including Mike McRoberts lol). Next thing I know, Veitch barrels on up and takes over, talking a mile a minute about himself, with a few refs to Peter.</p>
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<p>Add me to the list of people who thinks he is a dick......and that was before the incident let alone afterwards when he went down about as far down the ladder as is possible. I've always had issues with Sports "personalities" trying to be too matey with the players....</p>
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<p>I also hate people who beat women.</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11634543'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11634543</a></p>
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<p>Piece on the Herald about domestic violence in NZ. Some shocking statistics.</p> -
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<p>Piece on the Herald about domestic violence in NZ. Some shocking statistics.</p>
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<p>That is why Police will ALWAYS attend a '1D' ( Domestic Dispute ) no matter how trivial it might seem when someone rings 111.</p>
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<p>For example a family member might ring and say "male x and female y" are fighting, once the relationship is established and they find out they are spouses, siblings or parent/children they will attend at some stage no matter what even if the caller mentions things have calmed down.</p>
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<p>at my old place we had some neighbours having a huge row, we called the cops within about 5 mins of it kicking off, they said they were on the way as they had already had 2 other calls! </p>
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<p>Yup. My dad has known Peter Williams for a long time (him and Mum taught with Peter's parents) so when I was at Uni, Peter gave me a tour around TVNZ, and said anytime I needed a hand with media stuff, to give him a yell (he really is a nice, friendly guy). Anyhoo, I had to write a feature in my third year, and Peter agreed to let me profile him. Interviewed him, and some of his colleagues (including Mike McRoberts lol). Next thing I know, Veitch barrels on up and takes over, talking a mile a minute about himself, with a few refs to Peter.</p>
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<p>He's always been a thoroughly full of shit twatface.</p>
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<p>After tv3 staff behaving like entitled overpaid prima donnas over the past few weeks it's interesting to compare them to a guy like Williams who comes across as a total pro at his job and I can't imagine him behaving like those arseclowns.</p> -
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<p>After tv3 staff behaving like entitled overpaid prima donnas over the past few weeks it's interesting to compare them to a guy like Williams who comes across as a total pro at his job and I can't imagine him behaving like those arseclowns.</p>
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<p>Good old Geoff Bryan is another one of that ilk. Still nice to hear him doing the news on the Sound. I remember the spiky mullet and beard he used to have in the 80s. It was a fucken shock when the beard went.</p>
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<p>None of them will ever be "Father of the Nation" like Hils though ( sniff )</p> -
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<p>Good old Geoff Bryan is another one of that ilk. Still nice to hear him doing the news on the Sound. I remember the spiky mullet and beard he used to have in the 80s. It was a fucken shock when the beard went.</p>
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<p>None of them will ever be "Father of the Nation" like Hils though ( sniff )</p>
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<p>I was trying to remember that guys name, you're right but he's got an excellent dry sense of humour he chucks into his stuff on the sound although Rigor has been doing the sports news in the morning now a fair bit.</p>
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<p>Obviously neither one of them will ever reach the lofty heights of being the Beyonce of the news. I'd be surprised if either of them had a twitter account too.</p> -
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Kristen Dunne-Powell's police statement detailed a number of violent assaults by Tony Veitch
<p>"Absolutely it was a violent relationship," she told us. "I was in denial of being a battered woman."</p>
<p>As Dunne said, charges for the other incidents were never presented to the court - so it should be noted that Veitch has never had an opportunity in court to defend himself against the allegations.</p>
<p>But in the context of his continuing to claim it was a single episode, we've gone back to the statement Dunne-Powell made to detectives about the relationship, which began in 2002.</p>
<p>Here are some excerpts.</p>
<p><strong>March/April 2003, Auckland:</strong></p>
<p>An argument in the hallway of Dunne-Powell's house deteriorates into violence.</p>
<p>"He kicked me 2 or 3 times in the thigh on one of my legs. The kicks were all one after the other, fairly quickly.</p>
<p>"I remember Tony leaving the house straight after the last kick. I saw him walk out the front door at the end of the hallway."</p>
<p><strong>January 2004, Mangawhai:</strong></p>
<p>The couple have gone to the Northland town for a weekend away to discuss problems in their relationship when the discussion becomes heated.</p>
<p>"At some stage during the argument Tony kicked a hole in the wall near the balcony in his anger. He did it in front of me.</p>
<p>"I think it was a half wall. His foot went right into it and created a hole in the Gib board.</p>
<p>"When Tony assaulted me, I would ride a fine line for the few days afterward. Not wanting to say anything to set him off again. Not wanting to antagonise him. He was always so apologetic afterward and it seemed genuine."</p>
<p><strong>June 2005, Rotorua:</strong></p>
<p>During a night in Rotorua, Dunne-Powell decides to leave after becoming upset.</p>
<p>"I was standing facing a wall packing my bag when Tony suddenly grabbed me with both hands and threw me onto the bed.</p>
<p>"When he got home we talked for a bit about what went on. Somewhere between his apologies and what we were talking about, as to whose fault it all was, he got angry with me again."</p>
<p><strong>July 2005, Auckland:</strong></p>
<p>At home in Auckland, the pair have an argument in the lounge.</p>
<p>"Tony chased me, from the bottom lounge room, up into our bedroom and into the walk-in wardrobe.</p>
<p>"I wanted to get away from him. I dropped to the ground to crawl out and away but as I did he started kicking me hard three times.</p>
<p>"I was on all fours when the first kick landed on my right thigh. It was so painful, that I actually ended up flipping over somehow onto my bottom, so the next kicks were to my left leg."</p>
<p><strong>November 2005, Auckland:</strong></p>
<p>The morning after a party to celebrate Veitch's radio station's survey results, the pair argue about a woman who was at the bar.</p>
<p>"Then he hit me in the torso. He used his left hand.</p>
<p>"It was just one blow. He was saying words but I don't remember what they were. I was apologising to him so he would calm down."</p>
<p><strong>December 2005, Auckland:</strong></p>
<p>After spending the night at Veitch's house, Dunne-Powell is leaving in the morning when an argument about their relationship blows up.</p>
<p>"I don't know how I came to be on the ground but I remember being in a sort of crab-like position on my bottom. Tony was kicking me in the legs like he was trying to get me out the door. I don't remember how many kicks he gave me but the kicks were to both legs.</p>
<p>"On 26 December 2005 I went to the Boxing Day races at Ellerslie with friends...and a few others from Vodafone.</p>
<p>"I wore a long dress to cover the bruising on my legs."</p>
<p><strong>January 2006, Auckland:</strong></p>
<p>The pair have broken up but are having a discussion about getting back together when an argument develops after Veitch receives a text from another woman. It quickly becomes violent.</p>
<p>"I was backed against the wall for only seconds and instinctively slid my back down the wall and went to dive out from under Tony.</p>
<p>"As I got to the crouch position, I felt 2 or 3 kicks land in my right lower back and I heard a crack.</p>
<p>"I remember looking up at Tony who was crouched down beside me. He was saying, "Are you OK, are you OK?" I was saying, 'This is bad, this is bad'."</p>
<p>After this incident, x-rays confirmed Dunne-Powell's back was fractured. Their relationship was finally over for good in March 2006.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/79805441/kristen-dunnepowells-police-statement-detailed-a-number-of-violent-assaults-by-tony-veitch'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/79805441/kristen-dunnepowells-police-statement-detailed-a-number-of-violent-assaults-by-tony-veitch</a></p>
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<p>Will more come of this?</p>
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<p>why do we have to continually go down the Veitch path?</p>
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<p>He's been done for what he claimed and owned up to. Everything else is just down to a matter of he-said vs she-said. </p>
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<p>The truth is anybody's guess, although it seems many people just want to believe what they want. And that's fine, and given that he certainly rubs a few people up the wrong way, thats to be expected. I am not insinuating anything here, but am I the only one who had an ex, or who had mates who had ex's who turned up to be full-of-shit psycho's? Things aren't always as they seem.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="578537" data-time="1462857643"><p>why do we have to continually go down the Veitch path?<br>
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He's been done for what he claimed and owned up to. Everything else is just down to a matter of he-said vs she-said. <br>
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The truth is anybody's guess, although it seems many people just want to believe what they want. And that's fine, and given that he certainly rubs a few people up the wrong way, thats to be expected. I am not insinuating anything here, but am I the only one who had an ex, or who had mates who had ex's who turned up to be full-of-shit psycho's? Things aren't always as they seem.<br>
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Don't like him, then don't follow him, don't listen to him.</p></blockquote>
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I don't. But then he's hard to avoid on Radio Sport, and when his 'all about me' apologies appear in the press/Facebook last year. <br><br>
"We" continually go down the Veitch path because he's constantly there in the media, and loves to talk about his redemption path. <br><br>
You're far from the only one who has had, or who has known people who've dated "full-of-shit pyscho's", but in those cases, the people I've known with psycho hose beast exes have pleaded innocent, not paid hush money, and have been found innocent too...