I thought the Rebels played close to their maximum capability given the roster they have. The Brumbies were maybe a bit below par but that was mostly because their lineout went to shit when they lost the starting hooker early.
Rebels' Hosea is a very good, athletic lock from our U20s program who looks like he could be the goods 🤔 so it is only a matter of time before he goes to Europe. Let's hope he gets a few Wallabies Tests in before then. Young.
Damon Murphy is such a shit ref. Refused to even look at the last feet at ruck time, ignoring the Brumbies for the first 25 minutes as they repeatedly infringed. Lonergan stole about half a metre for that final kick, and that is also on Murphy being useless, regardless of the result. He also couldn't tell that the Brumbies didn't have a dominant scrum, giving them a penalty for wheeling, and letting the Ponies' 9 delay the feed too often.
I'm not sayign the Brumbies are a bad team and don't deserve to win; their midfield versus the Reds will be worth the price of adminission alone. But fuck they get a legup from the officials, and Caydern Neville is a useless niggly fuckwit.
Personally although I supported Reds ,I thought game was a little disappointing. A bit pissed that refs are missing laws of the game while trying these new variations. Much as I dislike saying it no way should our(Reds) first try of been allowed under the laws that say you can only take a ball by hand and not swim back. I hope that not coming back into our game.
This was heaps of fun. I think SuperAU has really hit it's stride, five of the last six games have been crackers.
The quality has been pretty good after a slow start
The matches tend to be more of a grind than the NZ comp. So if you aren’t supporting a team I can see why some neutrals find them dull.
Maybe. It's all in the eye of the beholder. I reckon if two NZ teams produced a game like Saturday it would be lauded as 'test match intensity' by some Aussie pundits who flog themselves at anything that comes out of your place.
@Darren not to mention that consistently one of the best and most influential players over the past couple of seasons is sitting on the bench... and he's a fucking 12! But yeah let's disregard how good Ioane was at 10 last year.
That is an example when advantage should be over in my book. Rebels might have gone 80m if that pass had stuck. They had a clear advantage.
Instead we go back for a scrum 10 metres back from where the lineout would have been. Especially since it was only a scrum advantage. PK advantage would be different.
And again. Scrum advantage should be over once a team gets clean ball and are free to use it as they wish.
Except that's not what the rules say.
And I prefer referees who play to the actual rules, not dodgy commentators on chat groups.
Oh yeah. What does the law say? Enlighten me.
Fudge it. Can't resist:
a. May be tactical. The non-offending team is free to play the ball as they wish.
b. May be territorial. Play has moved towards the offending team’s dead-ball line.
c. May be a combination of tactical and territorial.
d. Must be clear and real. A mere opportunity to gain an advantage is not sufficient.
I think that d. is the bit that annoys most viewers. This is exactly the previously described scenario where a player in the clear is passed to but drops the ball. Laws say that opportunity is not sufficient but to the viewer it looks like the team has already experienced an advantage to the point where they could have done well.
The other annoying one doesn't happen that often but can be awful. That is when a team is on attack in the 'red zone' and they keep making small inroads breaking down the defence. It can go on for ever giving them every chance to score a try before a handling error dictates going back.
There is a school of thought that if a team gets a PK advantage in the opposing teams 22m line, then the referee should never call 'advantage over'. Either the attacking team scores a try, or the attacking team comes back for a PK. I don't know if I quite subscribe to it, but I can see the logic for a PK advantage.
Took my three year old daughter (first game) to this game and it was a heap of fun. Kids add such a different experience to it.
Was a real strong northerly for the whole game so it was no surprise that it was a game of two halves. Also the fact that this Canes team isn't that much better than the Rebels.
Ardie really stands head and shoulders above the rest of the forward pack. Most things he does at the moment are of high quality and his timing of picking moments has come along way from the raw player he was a few years back.
And in saying that, id still pick an in form Cane over him for knockout rugby.
Pre-match the excitable kiddies on The Roar were wetting themselves at the opportunity to jam it right up Brad Thorn, having been worked up into a lather over a period of weeks by acolytes reminding them of that horrid fellow's vendetta against Our Your Quadie.
Show them vision of a couple of Canterbury matches from the early 2000's and they couldn't tell you which one was Brad and which one was Reuben. They express themselves in a manner worthy of your typical Collingwood supporter, citing a non-existent rivalry on the field, naked anti-New Zealander racism and Thorn's stubborn bigotry in selecting a side which suited him as coach. The last time Quadie cried in similar circumstances his handlers had him pronounce the coach as "tokix", after spending a week to have him remember it and rehearse how to say it.
I think the only time Thorn might have noticed Laptop Cooper on the field, during his eight or nine times losing to the All Blacks, was when he spotted him kneeing a fallen Richie McCaw's head while no-one was watching - Thorn missed by a whisker sending the chancer into Friday week. That certainly does not qualify as rivalry.
He hasn't learned how to tackle, he still kicks (and passes) out on the full and yet the hyperbole is now being cranked up for the campaign against Michael Cheika, who couldn't select an acceptable team so long as his arks points to the ground, just like Robbie Deans before him and just like, in recent seasons, Daryl Gibson, Dan McKellar, David Wessells or Tim Sampson.
Cheika worked out some time back that one defensive turnstile in the mid field is luxury enough but that hasn't registered. I suspect (hope) that, like Brad Thorn, he has heard the quote from NFL coach Buddy Ryan "If you listen to the fans, you'll be sitting up there with them."
Toulon owner Mourad Boudjellal delivered a boot up the Khyber Pass half way through the li'l fella's contract period, spluttering "Sacre bloody bleu, talk about vin ordinaire mate mes amis - it's difficult to go from foie gras to pâté!" He was missing Jonny Wilkinson's exceptionalism and Tana Umaga's before him - there is the standard to be met.
Wayne Smith of The Australian sets the bar low to accommodate an adequate low level performance by his preferred 10, punctuated by several characteristic bloopers, while two undisciplined local outfits scrambled loosely about the park in an incoherent display. He hallucinates:
Triumphant return for Cooper
"Quade Cooper orchestrated a Test match-like intensity from the Melbourne Rebels to shut out the Queensland Reds 32-13."
I watched the second half closely and it was unremarkable stuff from just about everyone, 25 weeks out from the World Cup.
My issue with Lose is when he starts yelling when someone scores a try. I understand it is good to get excited for big plays but the guy literally starts yelling into the microphone - dial it back a bit.
Also re: Wessels, I know we're happily shooting the messenger because of when the message arrived, but the Super Rugby draw can be messed up sometimes, and I think supporters of every team have felt that at some stage of the competition.
There's no doubt that at some points during the season every team gets a tough turnaround or its byes unevenly spaced, or a series of tough games, but that's a reality of playing a competition across five countries spread around the world.
I don't have too much sympathy for Dave, though, because I'd say the Rebels have probably the easiest draw of any team this year, along with the Brumbies. They're playing in the easiest conference, they get two games against the Sunwolves and six against other Australian opposition and they haven't had to go to Argentina.
He should take a look at the Jags' schedule, or the Sunwolves, or the Blues.
Edit: And the Rebs miss playing the Chiefs and Lions while the Brumbies miss the Blues and the Stormers.
I reckon there's a good chance they've got the easiest draw of anyone! 🙂
Only problem is that they don't get to play themselves. Those would be easy points.
@dice ha funnily that is actually not that bad, not being bale to clear our line has been an issue for years now for us, so we have gone from erratic 10's with no distance to an erratic 10 who can kick for miles...definite improvement 🙂