Tasman v Auckland



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  • We won't win but happy to see Dabek get an opportunity off the bench as well as Tufuga. Scrafton injured again I see.



  • I deleted the old post with the Auckland team.. something went wrong and it was screwing up the layout. No idea why.


    1 Alex Hodgman (Suburbs, 7 caps)
    2 Leni Apisai (Loaned, 7)
    3 Marcel Renata (University, 39)
    4 Jamie Lane (Ponsonby, 12)
    5 Jack Whetton (Grammar TEC, 34)
    6 Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa (Ponsonby, 8 )
    7 Adrian Choat (Waitemata, 8 )
    8 Akira Ioane (Ponsonby, 43)
    9 Danny Tusitala (Ponsonby, 7)
    10 Harry Plummer (Grammar TEC, 19)
    11 Caleb Clarke (Suburbs, 17)
    12 TJ Faiane – Co-C (Pakuranga, 35)
    13 Tumua Manu (College Rifles, 19)
    14 Tanielu Tele’a (Marist, 11)
    15 Jordan Trainor (Ponsonby, 20)

    16 Robbie Abel (College Rifles, 14)
    17 Jarred Adams (Suburbs, 13)
    18 Marco Fepulea’i (Ponsonby, 14)
    19 Presley Tufuga (Ponsonby, debut)
    20 Aleks Dabek (Ponsonby, debut)
    21 Jonathan Ruru (University, 18)
    22 Daniel Kirkpatrick (University, 7)
    23 Salesi Rayasi (Marist, 18)

    Unavailable due to injury: Peter-Chanel Tagaloa (head), Cameron Suafoa (shoulder), Hoskins Sotutu (ankle), Mike Sosene-Feagai (shoulder), Dalton Papalii (ankle), Lyndon Dunshea (knee), Blake Gibson (knee), Scott Scrafton (hand)

    5 loosies injured



  • @African-Monkey said in Tasman v Auckland:

    We won't win but happy to see Dabek get an opportunity off the bench as well as Tufuga. Scrafton injured again I see.

    That looked like a nasty finger dislocation in the Wellington game. Tape can only do so much.



  • Happy with the Tusitala start. Can't much see the point of Tele'a starting in front of Rayasi. Bit of a nothing change.



  • When Auckland beat Tasman last year it was mostly because of two things - a powerful performance from the locks and the kicking game

    The locks last year were: Whetton, Tuipulotu and Lemalu off the bench.

    Whetton, Lane and Tufuga (debut) are a step down. Lane may end up being a good player but he doesn't have the physicality for games like this yet.
    Does anyone know much about Presley Tufuga?

    The kicking game was excellent last year. Jordan's poor positional play was exposed several times. This year he's on the wing and Auckland have not been kicking well.

    Some of that has been the absence of a genuine fullback until last week. Also TJ's kicking has almost disappeared.. I think that's related to whatever is going wrong with the timing in attack

    tldr: we're fucked



  • @Duluth Yes - Big Patty T had a field day and our pack looked lightweight - in fact our whole team got overpowered. We've got a bit more muscle this year, but I wish we still had Shannon Frizell.

    However, this looks pretty close to the best we can field. O'Malley missing off the bench.



  • That Tasman teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.

    Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.



  • Auckland vs Tasman tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.

    Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.

    Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Tasman could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.



  • @shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:

    Auckland vs Tasman tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.

    Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.

    Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Tasman could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.

    If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging



  • @Duluth said in Tasman v Auckland:

    Does anyone know much about Presley Tufuga?

    Ponsonby lock. listed at 28 years old, 1.99m, 108kgs. Originally from Wellington (Poneke) where he made development teams. Been in Auckland for a few seasons making the B team this season and made one appearance off the bench last season for Southland vs BOP, I guess on loan? Always puts in a good reliable shift at club level so we will see how he goes at the next level. A tough ask to debut against Tasman.
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  • @Daffy-Jaffy Though watching him play club locking next to Jamie lane he didn't appear to be as tall as 1.99m to me.



  • @Cantab79 said in Tasman v Auckland:

    That Tasman teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.

    Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.

    At full strength Tasman is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.

    Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Tasman (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.

    I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Tasman signed them.



  • @Chris-B said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Cantab79 said in Tasman v Auckland:

    That Tasman teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.

    Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.

    At full strength Tasman is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.

    Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Tasman (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.

    I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Tasman signed them.

    Nankivell is out of CBHS so originally from Christchurch. Tim Perry originally from South Canterbury



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  • @Chris said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Chris-B said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Cantab79 said in Tasman v Auckland:

    That Tasman teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.

    Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.

    At full strength Tasman is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.

    Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Tasman (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.

    I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Tasman signed them.

    Nankivell is out of CBHS so originally from Christchurch. Tim Perry originally from South Canterbury

    I think @Chris-B is making a different point as yes a lot of those players are originally (before making their NPC debuts) from elsewhere (Makalio from Auckland, Taufua from Counties, Squire from Manawatu etc).



  • @KiwiMurph said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Chris said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Chris-B said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Cantab79 said in Tasman v Auckland:

    That Tasman teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.

    Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.

    At full strength Tasman is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.

    Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Tasman (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.

    I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Tasman signed them.

    Nankivell is out of CBHS so originally from Christchurch. Tim Perry originally from South Canterbury

    I think @Chris-B is making a different point as yes a lot of those players are originally (before making their NPC debuts) from elsewhere (Makalio from Auckland, Taufua from Counties, Squire from Manawatu etc).

    Yeah I understand his point Just adding where those 2 players are from originally as the original post to Chris B Mentioned the Canterbury - Tasman movement for mitre10. Tasman has been an asset to the Crusaders Region giving them a wider talent pool not just though Mitre 10 but having a 2nd Crusaders Academy run out of the Tasman Region.



  • The AB channel on youtube just posted the highlights from last year

    I'd forgotten about Fukofuka's hug



  • Good to see Abel on the bench. He should be starting though.

    Apisai is one of those "how the heck did this guy get a Super Rugby contract?" players.



  • @Hooroo said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:

    Auckland vs Tasman tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.

    Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.

    Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Tasman could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.

    If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging

    Thanks for reminding me of our glorious win on your home turf! 🤡

    But, I am worried, who from Hawkes Bay hurt you? I haven't seen this much hatred towards another team since @shark went on his war with the Chiefs.

    @Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Tasman Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)



  • @Nepia said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Hooroo said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:

    Auckland vs Tasman tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.

    Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.

    Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Tasman could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.

    If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging

    Thanks for reminding me of our glorious win on your home turf! 🤡

    But, I am worried, who from Hawkes Bay hurt you? I haven't seen this much hatred towards another team since @shark went on his war with the Chiefs.

    @Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Tasman Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)

    No, I quite like them as a team. I just class Hawkes bay in with Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs. It's a legacy thing. The top flight embarrassments, if you will



  • @Hooroo said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Nepia said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Hooroo said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @shark said in Auckland Rugby 2019:

    Auckland vs Tasman tomorrow night should be a belter; can't wait.

    Then Auckland have a resurgent Southland (ok the resurgence may not last beyond 9.15pm tonight after they play Taranaki), and Taranaki away to finish.

    Auckland at the moment sit forth, three points clear of Harbour and Waikato. A loss to Tasman could well see them leap-frogged by one if not both of those sides, but they have a realtively soft last fortnight.

    If Waikato can't beat a rubbish Hawkes Bay team then they won't be doing any leapfrogging

    Thanks for reminding me of our glorious win on your home turf! 🤡

    But, I am worried, who from Hawkes Bay hurt you? I haven't seen this much hatred towards another team since @shark went on his war with the Chiefs.

    @Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Tasman Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)

    No, I quite like them as a team. I just class Hawkes bay in with Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs. It's a legacy thing. The top flight embarrassments, if you will

    Ok, now I'm angry, you've lumped us in with that lot? You're on my list mofo - vendetta, utu, revenge, balance in the force, whatever you want to call it, my wraith is coming.



  • @Hooroo said in Tasman v Auckland:

    Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs

    I aint taking offence to you calling my team rubbish, but your soccer fanboism is showing through calling us a club...we are a rubbish province, get it right pal!



  • @taniwharugby said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Hooroo said in Tasman v Auckland:

    Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs

    I aint taking offence to you calling my team rubbish, but your soccer fanboism is showing through calling us a club...we are a rubbish province, get it right pal!

    I missed that through the red mist. Hate that creeping into SH rugby, Sky and NZR can suck a dick for bringing that in.



  • @Nepia said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Tasman Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)

    Don't know.

    Maybe he just thinks he's a New Zealander. 🙂

    He might not be that far away from an AB call up right now if we lost another loose forward. Papalií, Hemopo and Fifita all still injured? I'm not convinced Squire is ready. Can't be many in the queue ahead of him for blindside/8.



  • @Nepia I put Waikato in as one of the biggest under achievers when you consider their history and talent at their disposal..
    Manawatu and Southland don’t have a lot of clubs to choose from, as for Northland, we lose the cream of our very best school boy rugby players mostly to Auckland secondary schools..ironically ,the Turbos ,the Taniwha and the stags especially have the lowest budget of any of the unions..and when I am talking low, in the case of Southland ,I believe it’s under 300k..the other problem is once they have many injuries.the depth bites big time ..Can remember Hawkes Bay struggling a couple of seasons back when they had a ton of injuries ,it happens...



  • @Chris-B said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Nepia said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Chris-B I wonder why Taufua didn't have an out clause in his contract (NZR and the Tasman Invitational XV) to go and play in the RWC? He must have known he was on the outer with the ABs this year and now that he's heading up north I assume he'll play for Samoa? (IIRC he hasn't played 7s for NZ?)

    Don't know.

    Maybe he just thinks he's a New Zealander. 🙂

    He might not be that far away from an AB call up right now if we lost another loose forward. Papalií, Hemopo and Fifita all still injured. I'm not convinced Squire is ready. Can't be many in the queue ahead of him for blindside/8.

    You've just named 4 not to mention the other 3 already with the squad. 😉

    But true, maybe he does just consider himself a Kiwi, pop over to his house and ask? Or does he FIFO?



  • @Nepia Frizell arguably queue jumped all those injured guys. F..king frail f..ckers!



  • @Chris-B said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Nepia Frizell arguably queue jumped all those injured guys. F..king frail f..ckers!

    Yep, it was good time to be last man standing, well second to last man standing if we count Taufua.



  • @Hooroo said in Tasman v Auckland:

    No, I quite like them as a team. I just class Hawkes bay in with Southland, Northland and Manawatu as the rubbish clubs. It's a legacy thing. The top flight embarrassments, if you will

    Manawatu have at least won an NPC title, even if it was back in 1980.



  • @Nepia said in Tasman v Auckland:

    my wraith is coming.

    You are going to give him a lift in your Rolls after that comment?

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  • @Nepia If he were there I'd put them as favourites against Scotland as he's exactly the type of player they need but never mind.



  • We're going to get smoked.

    Keeping Tasman to within 14 is a good result.

    Underdog status claimed.



  • @nzzp said in Tasman v Auckland:

    We're going to get smoked.

    Keeping Tasman to within 14 is a good result.

    Underdog status claimed.

    Underdog status deserved. Tasman are having the year we had last year.



  • @Chris-B said in Tasman v Auckland:

    @Cantab79 said in Tasman v Auckland:

    That Tasman teams looks Super Rugby strength, and will be almost impossible to beat for the title this year. They will need to choke to give anyone else a chance of winning, or suffer some serious injury setbacks.

    Their depth across the park is brilliant. As a Canterbury fan I wonder how so many of the Crusaders' players have been allowed to drift north for the Mitre 10 Cup? In saying that I will be very happy for them if they do win this year and bring the Mitre 10 Cup back to the Crusaders region.

    At full strength Tasman is pretty strong, but far from bolted out of reach. A couple of injuries to key players and we're back in the pack.

    Of the Crusaders players, Crockett, Strange, Blackadder, Hunt, Faingaanuku and Havili are all products of Nelson College. Pretty sure Taufua (loaned from Canterbury), Jordan, Perry and Makalio all made their NPC debuts for Tasman (as, I'm pretty sure did Lomax, Parkinson, Squire, Christie, Nankivell, Aumua, Roach, Uchida, and Paea). Salmon and Tima are also Nelson College products - the Moli bros are Marlborough College products.

    I think Will Jordan is the significant miss by Canterbury. I doubt Nankivell or Christie would have been close to making the Canterbury team when Tasman signed them.

    Yep, I was gonna poke holes in Cantab79's post as well. Jordan is the only Crusader from Canterbury originally now at Tasman, of concern. The other Tasman Crusaders are either from the Tasman region or Tasman (not Canterbury) buy-ins, or off-casts who've come good.

    In general though there have been quite a few high profile guys over the last few years who've somehow escaped from the camp, when you add Jordan to ALB, Alaimalo, Lentjes, Retallick and D McKenzie (yes I know, only one year at CC, but he was still in the system and escaped).





  • Geez that was too easy Akira looks slow and unfit



  • @Chris Yeah he does.



  • Akira doesn’t look fit or interested. Probably need a whole offseason to get in shape for super rugby



  • @Dolamite or a rocket


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