The Future of Hooroo.



  • Last year I did a post grad course in exec leadership which was really enjoyable.  It made me shift a few goal posts about in terms of career and also myself.
     
    So rather than make a snap decision and just start dieting and exercising, I told myslf to enjoy Christmas and the New year and start when back at work.
     
    Joined a real gym  rather than use the work one and have a personal trainer 3 times a week.  I thought I would see him for an hour each time but he looked at me and suggested we start at 30 mins each time, It was good advic. 🙂
     
    Into second Third week now and feeling better already. although the first weekend he crippled me so bad with Lactic acid that I couldn't get out of bed without help. I've never been so crippled without a genuine injury.
     
    Weight started at 118.7 (Which was about 5kg less that I thought I was so that was a win straight away)
     
    So far my hatiest (toughest) exerise when training with him is the squat jumps.
     
    Going to gym 5 times a week wioth the two times I don't see him, is a set programme by him so I don't just wander the gym aimlessly
     
    Only going to weigh myself once a month.  Seeing the PT for 3 months at this stage.



  • Nice work bro, having a PT to get you cranking is a great idea. I've done something similar although only doing weekly sessions. Something about being flogged and making it through alive (barely!) is so addictive!! Plus being more targeted about how you are training is really important.



  • Cheers
     
    Yeah and it has me doing different activities since last time I joined a gym.  Flinging ropes about and throwing balls on the ground etc. Seems common as mud to everyone but all new to me.
     
    I gave him my two goals. After three months I want to do one unassisted chin up fom relaxed straight arms. Telling him that I don't want to bulk out at all. I still have no idea why peoplpe who do weights for bulk that isn't for a particular sport of activity. It reminds me of a woman going to a beauty salon every day. Just toooooo vain 🙂
     
    My other goal is to get to 100kg (or less) healthily.



  • Having a PT/coach type person pushing you along is the best part of xFit for me. Certainly makes you work harder, and smarter.
     
    Good that you have specific goals too.



  • Having a PT/coach type person pushing you along is the best part of xFit for me. Certainly makes you work harder, and smarter.

    Also they can spot you when your form goes to shit - something you don't get working in a gym alone. Its even worse when its some random who walks up and gives you bad advice.

    So far my hatiest (toughest) exerise when training with him is the squat jumps.

    Squat jumps fucking suck, particularly when you have a mass that fights gravity 🙂

    I gave him my two goals. After three months I want to do one unassisted chin up fom relaxed straight arms.

    There will come a day when you look back on that goal and chuckle to yourself - when I got to 10 chin ups I was amazed at how strong I was getting, but fuck the 20kg I'd lost in the meantime helped a lot 😉
     
     
     
    From personal experience, I'd be inclined to make yourself a spreadsheet with dates and columns on it for weight, chest, waist, and hips. While losing kg is rewarding, there is nothing like looking back on your old measurements and telling people "I lost 20cm off my arse!"
     
    And while its completely personal preference to weigh in once a month, I'd do it more often because it helps keep you motivated. Trying to beat yourself at losing weight is good, as long as you're realistic about how it changes as you slim down.
     
    First year for was 1.5kg per month. Second year was 0.5 kg per month 🙂 That was with 6-8 week concentrated exercise + diet periods followed by short breaks.



  • He has all my measurements.  I'm not a 100% bothered as I notice in myself the changes, especialy with clothes and my arms are always first to change and then chin. 🙂
     
    I'm not too hung up on the physical appearance changes. I just know that if I am fit and 100kgs, I am in a great place.
     
    I'm looking forward to getting to 1hr sessions.
     
    Good call NTA about lookin back at achieved targets. I am soooooooooooo far away from being able to do a chin up, it isn't funny. I will enjoy the day that I manage that



  • I assume he's got you doing reverses in order to start getting a feel for it - I tried using the assisted chin/dip machine at the gym but never got any progress because I couldn't wean myself offit.



  • No, all we are doing right now is Cardio type activitoes with ropes and balls and boxes and boxing. I'm that far behind currently.



  • Good stuff mate! Looking forward to following your journey.
     
    I was chatting to one of the guys at the gym this morning who only ever seems to train with a PT. He is with him 3 times a week and costs him $50 a pop....i was like WTF??? but he said its the only way he will get himself in there to train, knowing that someone is waiting for him.



  • No, all we are doing right now is Cardio type activitoes with ropes and balls and boxes and boxing. I'm that far behind currently.

    Dont think of it as being 'far behind' mate. He's just got you doing stuff that suits your goals. You will burn a lot more calories doing that sort of stuff and therefore drop weight faster.
     
    As I said in Nick's log, nutrition is the real maker or breaker. But dont look at it as a "diet". It's an eating plan - a new way to eat which may only involve a few refinements from what you are eating now.



  • Good on ya Hooroo, I am another PT advocate, helps you break the back of the weight challenge, perfects technique and allows you to progress faster.
     
    I would recommend that you use a heart rate monitor and try and work in your target Zone 60%-100% of Maximum Heart Rate. You can calculate your Max HR = 206.3-(0.711 x age). The longer you can function at the higher heart rate (80%-100%) the faster you will burn fat. Then it is just the diet you need to sort out, which is my Achilles heel.
     
    I use Myfitness Pal to track diet and exercise and "MyZone" and this forum to track my progress. MyZone is the system my gym uses, so not sure if it works for others?



  • I am not a PT advocate, my experience with them has not been great - and then I went and lost my puku on my own (with the help of this subforum, but I'm an advocate of what works best for the individual. So good luck Hooroo. 
     
    But I'll second JK, nutrition is the key, I decided to go crazy and eat whatever I wanted over the Xmas/New Year break and paid the price by putting on between 3-5kg (my scales are not 100% accurate). Even though I'm still at least 15kg lighter than when I started dropping the weight last year it is still bloody annoying. Too much sugar was the problem as my main meals etc generally stayed the same - and I just ate more lollies/chocolate and drunk some beer.



  • Ha ha! JK! As I was reading your post about watching what I eat, I was scoffing a chicken wing freshly fried from our freinds at the BakeHouse cafe Putaruru! 🙂
     
    Yeah PT is a cost and my gym ones are the same. $50/hour or $30/Half hour.  I need it though so not looking at cost..
     
    Thanks DK.So max heart rate is 178 based on your calc which I can get to quite easily at this stage.
     
    I'm not worried about food properly at the moment as I don't want to focus on too much at one time. In saying that for dinner, I have a salad with  Lettuce,Olives sliced, Cocktail onions sliced, sliced Jalpenos, Tomatoes, Capers and Avo with some smoked chicken or ham. That is healthy enough.  Then Fri to Sun just enjoy cooking what I want or go out for meals.
     
    Lunches are only OK in terms of health. Today being Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.  Breakhast is a two egg omellete with a tablspon of Parmesan.... but I will eliminate Parmesan if need be.  Quick and easy in Mocrowave for speed.



  • I'm an advocate of what works best for the individual.

    This is pretty important to note. We are all different and respond differently to different exercise styles and food types. Might take a bit of time to find what works for you but over time you will work it out.



  • This is pretty important to note. We are all different and respond differently to different exercise styles and food types. Might take a bit of time to find what works for you but over time you will work it out.

    agreed, you've got to find an approach that suits you - my big mantra for this year is discipline trumps motivation. I have ups and downs where I'll be really good on my kai and training then other times I'm lazy and a cookie monster. Getting that balance right is really important.



  • The old Diet Day off kicks the shit out of that. Saturdays are party days for the stomach - just fucking hammer it.
     
    Because after a few Sundays waking up with sugar withdrawal and constipation, you realise just how bad it is 🙂



  • I'm starting to dislike boxes all of a sudden.
     
    Also I am eliminating "This seems easy enough" from my vocab while with PT



  • Also I am eliminating "This seems easy enough" from my vocab while with PT

    Numpty. Weren't you in the military? Didn't you learn that early on?



  • Short memory or should I say vacant memory as it all came flooding back quick smart.
     
    Best to say nothing and just do 🙂
     
    I was push a box with weights on it round the gym and was so knackered I could see someone was waiting for me to go past and I said, 'you go mate' and he just looked and said, 'nah man, you're doing awesome, keep going' It was quite nice to see the appreciated effort as I was gone.



  • Thanks DK.So max heart rate is 178 based on your calc which I can get to quite easily at this stage.

    I'm utterly convinced that the maximal heart rate calculators are wrong. Example: mountain biking New Years eve; avg 97% for 58 mins and max of 103%
     
    Same route last weekend; avg 98% for 55 mins and max 104% - but 0.8km/h faster 🙂



  • I'm utterly convinced that the maximal heart rate calculators are wrong. Example: mountain biking New Years eve; avg 97% for 58 mins and max of 103%
     
    Same route last weekend; avg 98% for 55 mins and max 104% - but 0.8km/h faster 🙂

    You are right the Max HR calc is not accurate. What I have been advised if you are regularly exceeding your calculated Max HR, then adjust your Max HR so your highest rate achieved becomes your 100% mark. For the system I use, the Myzone HR monitor automatically makes the adjustment. For me I am only reaching 97%, so it is reasonably accurate.



  • That seems a sensible idea.



  • The HB thing: I regularly used to hit 220-230+ when doing hard hill repeats-and could keep it going for 30-60 minutes. I'm early 40s. 150 steps, the HB is the highest on the last 30 steps, then turn and run down, each repeat 1:40-2 minutes total. HB would be down on 100-120 in a minute or two of rest.
    So, the formula of 220 minus age is not applicable for me.



  • One month in and my fitness has improved remarkably.
     
    Had a weigh in to day and have put on 3.1kg's Ha ha!!
     
    Trainer was gobsmacked as he has been so impressed with my progress. True-love was surprised too as she has noticed that I had lost weight around the face and tumm not so big.
     
    I must have had next to no muscle ...... 🙂
     
    The last thing each session is on the rower when I am knackered and can now do two 1 minute sprints keeping it Under 1:50 the whole way.  Nearly got to 300 metres in a minute but not quite.
     
    Absolutely takes anything I have left, out of me.
     
    Loving it.
     
    Doing measurements on Monday as Trainer was too confused 🙂



  • Top stuff mate!



  • Really noticed the difference in Golf, JK.
     
    Saw your comment on dotgolf and that is easily my best round at Whangamata. No coincidence it is timed with my training



  • I was actually gonna comment that on my previous post but was in a rush for a meeting.
     
    I reckon it makes a huge difference with the golf eh.



  • Massive.
     
    We have a back tee on a par 5 measuring 560m and I was just out the back of the green for 2 on Saturday. I have never made the green off the normal and closer tee before, so it has made a huge difference



  • Had a wee set back last week witha gall bladder infection that also inflamed the liver so I was energy less from Saturday through to Wednesday.
     
    BAck in full swing.
     
    Will weigh myself this friday as it will be two weeks with no booze and freasonable eating.  I lost 5kg while crook but that is artificial weight loss.
     
    I can row 1000m in 3:42 now. When I started I could barely do 500m in under 2mins.
     
    Can rock along 500m at around 1:45 and with a push can do 100m in my 500 under 1:40split so am definitely getting fitter.
     
    Heaps more birdies and birdie opportunities with golf too.



  • You're height is a big advantage for rowing, should be right up your alley. I have to rock along at 30 spm to maintain that sort of rate, a bit knackering!



  • Heaps more birdies and birdie opportunities with golf too.

    I hear ya mate! Wish I could convert but my putting is woeful at the mo. Made no birds from about 8 or 9 shots today and only got 2 from about the same last week!



  • My putting has been pretty good.  My drives however are becoming a bit erratic.



  • Just wrote massive post for it to disappear.
     
    still at starting weight, cm's off in right places and on in right places.
     
    Golf is good.
     
    F&*k this site, sometimes



  • Wow! When I started this thread I was 118.3kg.

    I have had a prick of a 2018. Work was just too full on and I did next to no exercise for the year apart from the very odd game of golf and ate and drank what I pleased.

    I weighed in Saturday at 131.9kg!!!!

    I have watched my mate lose 10 kg over three months with the ole "nothing white" diet. Essentially a no bread, spuds, rice, pasta/noodles diet and it is really noticeable on him. But he kept having booze. I am cutting the booze out for the beginning.

    2 days in and I'm not crying yet. (and feeling remarkably fresh due to the number of veges and fruit I have had)

    I'm too fat to run at the moment so was going to re-join the gym this week but true-love has suggested I do "Gym@FarmWork.com" for a week and then join as there is quite a few high energy small jobs that need to be done around the place.

    Anyway, let's see how I go.



  • @Hooroo I find cutting out the carbs is hard, even harder in the winter when you want something hearty. Doesn't help that I love pasta rice and noodles 😥



  • @canefan said in The Future of Hooroo.:

    @Hooroo I find cutting out the carbs is hard, even harder in the winter when you want something hearty. Doesn't help that I love pasta rice and noodles 😥

    Yeah, I imagine it will be hard and it's too early to tell how hard but I am doing ok so far.

    It's harder knowing I'm essentially 132 KG's



  • @Hooroo my 2c is to drink heaps of water and have a decent crack at portion control. Could also give the intermittent fasting a hoon - quite a few guys on the fern are doing variations of it with great success. I'm pretty much dry these days aside from the odd beer when out for dinner or at a party/gig. When I cut drinking it took a few months for things to really pick up speed around weight/fat loss. Apparently you're body/metabolism takes several weeks to realise you are actually not going to be drinking anymore!!

    You could also check out food apps etc as a way to get some visibility on intake or mix of carbs/fats/protein etc? In my less disciplined days I never wanted to actually confront the volume (and type) of food I was eating. I'd just go la la la la as I smashed another pack of chips lol.

    Any of the above on top of gym training will really get things moving - if you are adding muscle with your training don't get worried if you seem to hit a weight plateau - at that point looking at body shape can be a good indicator of gains.



  • @Paekakboyz said in The Future of Hooroo.:

    @Hooroo my 2c is to drink heaps of water and have a decent crack at portion control. Could also give the intermittent fasting a hoon - quite a few guys on the fern are doing variations of it with great success. I'm pretty much dry these days aside from the odd beer when out for dinner or at a party/gig. When I cut drinking it took a few months for things to really pick up speed around weight/fat loss. Apparently you're body/metabolism takes several weeks to realise you are actually not going to be drinking anymore!!

    You could also check out food apps etc as a way to get some visibility on intake or mix of carbs/fats/protein etc? In my less disciplined days I never wanted to actually confront the volume (and type) of food I was eating. I'd just go la la la la as I smashed another pack of chips lol.

    Any of the above on top of gym training will really get things moving - if you are adding muscle with your training don't get worried if you seem to hit a weight plateau - at that point looking at body shape can be a good indicator of gains.

    Cheers for tips mate. I am doing ok on portion control I think. This morning was a celery stick, half an apple, half a banana and half a pear with a hunk of fresh ginger in the blender with a cup of water. Really love the flavour and I won't eat again until lunch time.

    Lunch is a Sirloin (small) steak, 6 olives, a small bit of feta and 5 cheery tomatoes. Dinner is soup. 🙂

    Compared to what I was eating, that is A LOT less 🙂



  • @Paekakboyz I would be interested if you thought what I had listed for todays meals as a lot of food or not?



  • @Hooroo Google up some ultra low carb or keto meal alternatives. Cauliflower pizza and cauliflower rice are actually bloody tasty, have heard zucchini noodles also work well.


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