P and all that jazz
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<p>To those posters who tried P, can I ask why? I'm not judging, I'm just interested in what the thought processes were that made you think you'd try something that I'm guessing you'd heard beforehand was a bad idea. I can see the point where there is some ambiguity or debate as to the harmfulness (like dope or alcohol) but I don't understand trying something where the ambiguity doesn't appear to exist.</p>
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<p>To those posters who tried P, can I ask why? I'm not judging, I'm just interested in what the thought processes were that made you think you'd try something that I'm guessing you'd heard beforehand was a bad idea. I can see the point where there is some ambiguity or debate as to the harmfulness (like dope or alcohol) but I don't understand trying something where the ambiguity doesn't appear to exist.</p>
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<p>You could apply the same logic to alcohol.</p>
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<p>Thought process is this....Potentially could fun, trying it once would do very little harm.</p> -
<p>plus I think some/most of us tried it very early on as it took over from speed etc. So there wasn't much in the way of news or any info about it's impact. As soon as it got media visibility stories were connecting it with Ice/P issues in Hawaii and other places. Then we started to learn it was bad news.</p>
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Not familiar with this in the UK - is P speed but smoked?<br><br>
Now that my kids are going to secondary school drugs are beginning concern me. Obviously it was fine for me back in the day as I was careful...And that's the thing, you just have to trust they make the right choices.<br><br>
Currently the teenagers drugs of choice seem to be weed and "dizz" (ecstasy/mdma) along with alcohol making a bit of comeback.<br><br>
Weed seems to have changed so much. Now mainly super-strength skunk it makes the old stuff seems relatively harmless. I hope my kids steer well clear until they are a lot older, at least until uni when their brains are more fully developed and they are in a better position to make reasoned decisions about these things. -
The worst thing about P is how the rest of us have to suffer not having easy access to decent cold and flu medicine because some Scrotes want it as precursor. <br>
The "drug store" here in Denver can't sell us a decent head cold medicine because we don't have a US drivers licence yet the "dispensary" a few doors down can sell me a big pile of weed. -
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<p>I think P is uncut speed - methamphetamine, or "ice" in pure form as they call it. "P" for "pure"</p>
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<p>I never knew that. Literally no where else calls it P so when I was first back in NZ & they were talking about it took me ages to realise they were talking about the Meth. I always assumed it was some retarded shit like metham<em><strong>P</strong></em>hetamine. Like the way the Americans call E X, cause they can't fucking spell.</p> -
I can't keep up. I swear if was ever approached by a dealer, I'd need to ask a full PowerPoint presentation describing the pros and cons of everything on sale with full recommendations at the end. <br><br>
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<p>I can't keep up. I swear if was ever approached by a dealer, I'd need to ask a full PowerPoint presentation describing the pros and cons of everything on sale with full recommendations at the end.<br><br>
Otherwise you get one letter wrong and fuck knows what's going to happen!</p>
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<p>First time I went to Amsterdam (fresh out of NZ many yerars ago) we ordered weed & as with NZ weed didn't cut it in with tobacco. And then smoked it. Agressively & in some quantity</p>
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<p>Northern Lights / Sensimilla is not weed as we knew it back home.... thats the most fucked up I've ever been.</p> -
That almost makes me feel nostalgic... <br><br>
Nowadays it seems everything is the hydroponically grown, genetically modified, bastard offspring of what was once a natural plant. It's weed on steroids. Kids need to go easy on it, which isn't straightforward if you've already got your party hat on. -
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I think P is uncut speed - methamphetamine, or "ice" in pure form as they call it. "P" for "pure"</p></blockquote>
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Nick's right according to this website<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.methminder.co.nz/faq/'>http://www.methminder.co.nz/faq/</a><br>
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And this one<br>
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<p>I thought the P was becasue it was made from Psuedoefidrine?</p>
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<p>I always thought it meant Pure.</p>
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<p>It's called Ice in Oz? Crystal Meth in US? Base might be the closest to it in the UK.</p> -
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<p>I always thought it meant Pure.</p>
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<p>It's called Ice in Oz? Crystal Meth in US? Base might be the closest to it in the UK.</p>
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<p>Meth in the US, and increasingly just called meth in the UK too. Ice & Crystal get used too... but mostly meth.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="555652" data-time="1454300681"><p>I've never touched anything, weed included, just never been that bothered by it TBH; you hear the odd story about P-houses, I know when I was working at the council for a year 2 houses were 'discovered' as being P-Houses and as such needed to have this on the file for future LIM reports (although owners had spent thousands cleaning it) and there have been burglaries/robberies where the criminal was supposedly on P, 1 fatality a few years back.</p></blockquote>
I liked this because to me in this day and age I am fucking astounded you had the seld control to avoid even weed. <br><br>
I have had e, weed, coke, speed, tabs, p and herbal highs. For me herbals were a lot of fun but more damaging than the others. I would load up on them for a start which is fucked stupid. Wanting to get to the high faster and feeling like the 2 tablet dosage just wasnt working so id take 4. I was young and fucken stupid. The night would be awesome from there but the next 24-48 hours after were a write off. Never had come downs as bad i had on herbals. I would occasionally manage to fall asleep on the come down only to be jolted awake by what felt like an electric shock confined to the inside of my head. It was what i imagined a mini stroke felt like. Scary. Stupidly though id be back doing it again only a week later. Married life and children probably saved me as the herbals we used to be able to get were eventually going to be lethal fro someone like me.<br><br>
P only had once and it was only because i had no idea it was fucken meth. Its was early days for the drug in NZ but id seen the effects of it in OZ and was not planning on having it be a bix to tick off. I was drunk at a party and this cat had just sold his ute for $7k and $1k worth of this shit offered me some. I had it, light bulb set up - bulb has the part that goes into the socket removed and thats the mouth piece, P is in the bottom and you heat the bulb with a lighter. At first i felt nothing. Then i drank half a bottle of bourbon straight. Got aggressive with some skater types and spewed my ring out. Pink shit. I had not eaten anything red or pink that day so it was a bit of a worry. Later i was told what it was and thankfully have not touched that or anything else since.<br><br>
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<p>I always thought it meant Pure.</p>
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<p>It's called Ice in Oz? Crystal Meth in US? Base might be the closest to it in the UK.</p>
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<p>Yes it is "ice" here because of the crystalline pure form looking like ice shards. Because its pure now, its a much bigger problem than when it was just meth i.e. cut with other stuff. Its really fucking shit up in some towns.</p>