SBW set to sign for......



  • The NZRU........
     
    Gregor Paul seems to be sure of his sauces.
     
     
    Sonny Bill Williams has agreed to stay in New Zealand and has signed what is thought to be a three-year deal that will take him through to the 2019 World Cup.
    Having switched between league and rugby twice since 2008, Williams is determined to make it to a third World Cup with the All Blacks. He has rejected offers to return to the NRL and rejoin his former French club Toulon to give the remainder of his football career to the 15-man game and New Zealand rugby.
    Recent promotion to the All Blacks' leadership group helped convince the 30-year-old that head coach Steve Hansen sees him as a vital part of the national side. Williams has won 33 test caps and two World Cup winners' medals but has not been a regular starter.
    With Ma'a Nonu having retired, the way has been paved for Williams to establish himself as the All Blacks' preferred second five-eighth and take ownership of a jersey he first wore in 2010.
     
     
    Williams has previously signed only one-year deals but his certainty that he wants to win 50 test caps and be remembered as a great All Black is thought to have persuaded him to make a longer commitment.
    By doing that, he was also able to benefit from the newly-signed broadcast deal. Williams, like all senior players in New Zealand, will enjoy a massively-improved pay deal as a result of the 100 per cent increase in TV income. He will also be allowed to box professionally as part of the deal.
    Confirmation of Williams' commitment to New Zealand Rugby will come on Wednesday at a press conference in Auckland but it is not yet known which Super Rugby side he intends to play for.
    Both the Chiefs and Blues are in the running to capture his signature and it is understood he will make his decision as late as the night before his contract signing is unveiled.
    Williams is understood to be torn between the two offers.
    The Chiefs were his rugby saviour and he feels a loyalty to them. Having initially played for the Crusaders when he arrived in New Zealand six years ago, Williams didn't settle well in Christchurch.
    He wasn't warmly embraced by the Crusaders' senior All Blacks and when his coaching mentor, Wayne Smith, shifted to the Chiefs as technical director in 2012, Williams decided to follow him.
    The shift paid immediate dividend as he struck a deadly partnership with first-five Aaron Cruden and formed a strong friendship with captain Liam Messam. The Chiefs won the title that year and Williams was instrumental in delivering it.
    After he fulfilled what he said was a long-made commitment to return to the NRL in 2013 and 2014, Williams rejoined the Chiefs for the 2015 season and is technically available to them between sevens commitments. But while he has loyalty to the Chiefs, he also has a strong relationship with Blues coach Tana Umaga who was at Toulon when Williams first defected from league.
    Umaga, as a former world-class midfielder, had a major influence on Williams' early rugby development and the two are close.
    Williams played for Umaga's Counties Manukau team in the ITM Cup when he returned from the Sydney Roosters in 2014.
    He and his family are currently based in Auckland, the city in which he grew up before he left for Sydney in his mid-teens.
    Snaring Williams would be a massive coup for the struggling Blues who are short of star quality and seemingly always miss out in any competitive process to sign leading talent. They made a bid to sign Damian McKenzie earlier this month but he rejected their offer to stay at the Chiefs and it confirmed the damaging perception that the best players don't want to head to Auckland.
    Sonny Bill Williams
    Age: 30Height: 1.94mWeight: 108kgCaps: 33
    Teams
    2010: Canterbury
    2011: Crusaders
    2012 and 2015: Chiefs
    2014: Counties Manukau
    2010-12, 2014: All Blacks
    2016: All Blacks Sevens
    Test debut: November 6, 2010 v England at TwickenhamTest tries: 9



  • Someone on Veitchys show yesterday was saying that he is pretty keen to link up with Tana again , 
     
    An SBW Moala midfield could be fairly potent



  • I believe it when I see it.



  • SBW is 31 in August, 34 by RWC 2019. Smith and Nonu were 34 and 33 respectively at the last world cup - so age isn't an issue theoretically.
     
    I would be excited if SBW knuckles down and sets his sights on either then starting 12 or 13 jumper come next RWC. Because for all the success his teams have had across the globe - he hasn't got close to having custody of a starting All Black jersey. I think that's an achievement he saw as a given once he walked into the NZRU set up - but I hope now he realises if he does it it'll be his greatest achievement IMO.
     
    The Blues angle holds little interest to me. He is likely a distraction if he comes into the fold, but if Rennie &/or Messam go I'd say there is a good chance it happens.



  • Remember also that SBW has become a dad since much of his code hopping. The extended time away this year on the 7s circuit may well fuel a desire to be near his young family more. That could well point toward a Blues signing.
     
    On the flip side though, getting a Cruden combo going again would be more beneficial to trying to  work with whoever the Blues have at 10 (unless Tana has a good signing up his sleeve there)



  • Will this quell the articles about him heading back to league or will he still be the subject of media scrutiny about his and his managers every move.
    Is good though he is committing this long, give him a chance to make a claim for the 12 jersey.



  • Will this quell the articles about him heading back to league or will he still be the subject of media scrutiny about his and his managers every move.
    Is good though he is committing this long, give him a chance to make a claim for the 12 jersey.

    It gives him the chance to attain legendary BBBT-like status



  • The NZRU........
     
    Gregor Paul seems to be sure of his sauces.
     
     
    Sonny Bill Williams has agreed to stay in New Zealand and has signed what is thought to be a three-year deal that will take him through to the 2019 World Cup.
    Having switched between league and rugby twice since 2008, Williams is determined to make it to a third World Cup with the All Blacks. He has rejected offers to return to the NRL and rejoin his former French club Toulon to give the remainder of his football career to the 15-man game and New Zealand rugby.
    Recent promotion to the All Blacks' leadership group helped convince the 30-year-old that head coach Steve Hansen sees him as a vital part of the national side. Williams has won 33 test caps and two World Cup winners' medals but has not been a regular starter.
    With Ma'a Nonu having retired, the way has been paved for Williams to establish himself as the All Blacks' preferred second five-eighth and take ownership of a jersey he first wore in 2010.
     
     
    Williams has previously signed only one-year deals but his certainty that he wants to win 50 test caps and be remembered as a great All Black is thought to have persuaded him to make a longer commitment.
    By doing that, he was also able to benefit from the newly-signed broadcast deal. Williams, like all senior players in New Zealand, will enjoy a massively-improved pay deal as a result of the 100 per cent increase in TV income. He will also be allowed to box professionally as part of the deal.
    Confirmation of Williams' commitment to New Zealand Rugby will come on Wednesday at a press conference in Auckland but it is not yet known which Super Rugby side he intends to play for.
    Both the Chiefs and Blues are in the running to capture his signature and it is understood he will make his decision as late as the night before his contract signing is unveiled.
    Williams is understood to be torn between the two offers.
    The Chiefs were his rugby saviour and he feels a loyalty to them. Having initially played for the Crusaders when he arrived in New Zealand six years ago, Williams didn't settle well in Christchurch.
    He wasn't warmly embraced by the Crusaders' senior All Blacks and when his coaching mentor, Wayne Smith, shifted to the Chiefs as technical director in 2012, Williams decided to follow him.
    The shift paid immediate dividend as he struck a deadly partnership with first-five Aaron Cruden and formed a strong friendship with captain Liam Messam. The Chiefs won the title that year and Williams was instrumental in delivering it.
    After he fulfilled what he said was a long-made commitment to return to the NRL in 2013 and 2014, Williams rejoined the Chiefs for the 2015 season and is technically available to them between sevens commitments. But while he has loyalty to the Chiefs, he also has a strong relationship with Blues coach Tana Umaga who was at Toulon when Williams first defected from league.
    Umaga, as a former world-class midfielder, had a major influence on Williams' early rugby development and the two are close.
    Williams played for Umaga's Counties Manukau team in the ITM Cup when he returned from the Sydney Roosters in 2014.
    He and his family are currently based in Auckland, the city in which he grew up before he left for Sydney in his mid-teens.
    Snaring Williams would be a massive coup for the struggling Blues who are short of star quality and seemingly always miss out in any competitive process to sign leading talent. They made a bid to sign Damian McKenzie earlier this month but he rejected their offer to stay at the Chiefs and it confirmed the damaging perception that the best players don't want to head to Auckland.
    Sonny Bill Williams
    Age: 30Height: 1.94mWeight: 108kgCaps: 33
    Teams
    2010: Canterbury
    2011: Crusaders
    2012 and 2015: Chiefs
    2014: Counties Manukau
    2010-12, 2014: All Blacks
    2016: All Blacks Sevens
    Test debut: November 6, 2010 v England at TwickenhamTest tries: 9

    That's definitely a bit of news to spice up the day



  • Remember when the media thought it was a sure him SBW would come back in 2014? I'll believe it when I see it.
     
    Though if he does come back to the Chiefs, fuck will we have a stacked midfield. Not a bad thing when SBW, Ngatai and ALB are all pretty injury prone.



  • A midfield of SBW and Reiko Ioane for the Blues would be the most devastating in New Zealand if they can manage to get Sonny to Auckland.



  • Remember when the media thought it was a sure him SBW would come back in 2014? I'll believe it when I see it.
     
    Though if he does come back to the Chiefs, fuck will we have a stacked midfield. Not a bad thing when SBW, Ngatai and ALB are all pretty injury prone.

    Was my first thought as well, we've heard this all before.



  • More mosques in Auckland isn't there? Less hicks? :whistle:



  • More mosques in Auckland isn't there? Less hicks? :whistle:

    So bloody what? And the correct grammar is fewer hicks.



  • I'll believe it when I see it. Could just as easily be misinfo fed by his management to get better offers out of league or the Frogs.
    Would be nice to see him actually commit to the abs for a decent length of time. But it would be out of character for him to do so.



  • Would be nice to see him actually commit to the abs for a decent length of time. But it would be out of character for him to do so.

    If you make simple promises, being a man of your word is pretty sweet, particularly when you do things on a handshake.

    So bloody what? And the correct grammar is fewer hicks.

    Oh burn.
     
    And my point is: maybe the provincial lifestyle is hard for a dedicated Muslim 😉



  • Great to see one of the best players in the world return to NZ Rugby, especially when there was a lot of coin on offer to go elsewhere.
     
    There is an element of the circus around SBW, but he's also proven he's a fantastic player who can be a team man too. He was one of the AB's most consistent performers in the RWC and was player of the game in the opener against Argentina.



  • If you make simple promises, being a man of your word is pretty sweet, particularly when you do things on a handshake.
     
     
     
     
    Oh burn.
     
    And my point is: maybe the provincial lifestyle is hard for a dedicated Muslim 😉

    Your point is retarded



  • I'll believe it when I see it. Could just as easily be misinfo fed by his management to get better offers out of league or the Frogs.
    Would be nice to see him actually commit to the abs for a decent length of time. But it would be out of character for him to do so.

    He is currently committed to the ABs as it is. The AB Sevens.
    BTW Titch is singing his praises for the professionalism, leadership and dedication he has brought in to the squad.



  • More mosques in Auckland isn't there? Less hicks? :whistle:

    The Tron has a vibrant Muslim community with a large active mosque.



  • Oh FFS. Please say there is not going to be another will he won't he signing wankfest about Sonny Bill.
     
    We've just got a whole new bunch of AB's to get amped about.
     
    As for the whole 'professional boxing' thing, gross. He's not a boxer's arse. Joe Parker is a boxer, and even the thought of SBW getting coverage and holding up some bullshit belt after fighting a decrepit tub of lard is revolting.



  • He is currently committed to the ABs as it is. The AB Sevens.
    BTW Titch is singing his praises for the professionalism, leadership and dedication he has brought in to the squad.

    You truly are the ultimate fanboi. My post wasn't questioning his professionalism, his work ethic or his awesome 6 pack. I wrote:
    "It would nice to see him actually commit to the abs for a decent length of time".
    So again, I was not disputing that SBW is an awesome specimen of a man and loved by all who are fortunate enough to be in his presence. I was simply saying that it would be nice if he decided to stick around for a bit. Btw, 7s is not the abs and that's all about the Olympics nothing more.
    Now was that ok or should I have also written something about how he must also have a massive cock?



  • The Tron has a vibrant Muslim community with a large active mosque.

    There's a joke about midfield bombs and SBW just crying out to be told here.



  • Wow, crucial posts something sane and then you get all spurned lover sounding. Hmmm.



  • Wow, crucial posts something sane and then you get all spurned lover sounding. Hmmm.

    Yes that's it. I waited at the restaurant until closing time. Bastard.



  • Your point is retarded

    Well, it wouldn't be the first retarded point made in relation to Muslims on here.



  • Yeah that bloody Sonny Bill. He goes to the one organisation in NZ that takes no shit from it's members and "employees" (the NZRU) and speaks to the bloke that decides who get to be the most revered sportsman in NZ (Shag) and says:
     
    "Can I do this and this and this?"
     
    And they all say "yeah sure"
     
    But he's still a fluffybunny eh?



  • SBW threads have lost something , this same thread two years ago would have gone nuts



  • SBW threads have lost something , this same thread two years ago would have gone nuts

    RS has tried his best.
    The usual sly digs and backhanded compliments trying to entice an argument are certainly getting less.
    Fact is that SBW is committed to NZ Rugby and, with the cooperation of his XVs coaches is playing sevens. On one hand many are complaining that the NZRU haven't done enough to get the best players to Titch but if it's SBW then that is just glory seeking.
    Mokey, your post seems rather cranky for you, but it is journalists trying to make a story that has made this " will he...won't he?" situation. He is just doing normal job decision making. As for the boxing side, if it is something that challenges him and stops him going stale then so what. I don't think anyone equates the level he fights at with the level JP does. Boxing hands out belts and titles for everything it can think of.
    If I sound like a fanboy for pointing out how silly people get trying to foist celebrity status on someone then complains about it, so be it.



  • I dont think SBW will do a lot of boxing ,But a SBW v Gallen fight has been brewing for some time , and both are set to make some decent coin out of it



  • I dont think SBW will do a lot of boxing ,
    But a SBW v Gallen fight has been brewing for some time , and both are set to make some decent coin out of it

    I'm not a massive boxing fan, but I'd pay good money to see Gallen get hit in the head.



  • While it will get plenty of criticism ,that is a given,  it will sell well as a pay per view event and both footballers ( not boxers , context ) will line their pockets



  • RS has tried his best.
    The usual sly digs and backhanded compliments trying to entice an argument are certainly getting less.
    .
    If I sound like a fanboy for pointing out how silly people get trying to foist celebrity status on someone then complains about it, so be it.

    Wtf? All I wrote was that Id like to see him commit to the abs for a decent length of time but it would be out of character for him to do so.
    What part of that is incorrect or is an attempt to start an argument.
    You seem to think that any comment that doesn't sing his praises is an insult of your precious. Take a cold shower ffs.
    This goes beyond fan boism. You appear to be genuinely in love with this guy.



  • Well, it wouldn't be the first retarded point made in relation to Muslims on here.

    You are just bringing up an irrelevant point to troll. This thread has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
    You are just getting into your same old habits of trying so hard to be a shit stirrer but just coming across as a twat.
     
    If you want to talk about religion start a new thread in off topic.



  • Oh FFS. Please say there is not going to be another will he won't he signing wankfest about Sonny Bill.
     
    We've just got a whole new bunch of AB's to get amped about.
     
    As for the whole 'professional boxing' thing, gross. He's not a boxer's arse. Joe Parker is a boxer, and even the thought of SBW getting coverage and holding up some bullshit belt after fighting a decrepit tub of lard is revolting.

    Very much, Nonu and Smith are a hell of a hard act to follow and the tone I got from the other thread was how much stronger the ABs would be if SBW came back. The midfielders they have are hardly short of talent, just experience.
     
    Apparently none of them hold a candle to him as an "athlete" either.



  • Could say that about a lot of positions. Looking at the list shows a turnover that not many teams get. It looks worse when you think about the AB dominance.
    The skeleton is still there, with a lot of experience including SBW if he's available. You're not badly served, otherwise. Fekitoa will work will with anyone and guys like Crotty or Ngatai are good.
    It's the loss of combinations that take a little longer to get over.
    You are just bringing up an irrelevant point to troll. This thread has absolutely nothing to do with religion.
    [emoji38]
    You're a miserable fluffybunny. Could have just treated it like what it was: a joke.
    You are just getting into your same old habits of trying so hard to be a shit stirrer but just coming across as a twat.

    Opinion on TSF is fairly even divided about the twat rating between you and I.
    And I'll point out I've been more on topic than you re: SBW. You just came in, dropped a one liner about my point being retarded, then saw your trigger word and let fly.
    Who is the shit stirrer?



  • Could say that about a lot of positions. Looking at the list shows a turnover that not many teams get. It looks worse when you think about the AB dominance.
    The skeleton is still there, with a lot of experience including SBW if he's available. You're not badly served, otherwise. Fekitoa will work will with anyone and guys like Crotty or Ngatai are good.
    It's the loss of combinations that take a little longer to get over.
    [emoji38]
    You're a miserable fluffybunny. Could have just treated it like what it was: a joke.
    Opinion on TSF is fairly even divided about the twat rating between you and I.
    And I'll point out I've been more on topic than you re: SBW. You just came in, dropped a one liner about my point being retarded, then saw your trigger word and let fly.
    Who is the shit stirrer?

    Mention that you don't like Superhero movies too NTA, you KNOW you want to.



  • STAY ON TOPIC!
    So are SBW and the other guys earmarked for Rio all in camp or something? That's why he's not in the squad for Wales?



  • What happened to my valid commentary on the AB makeup?



  • Wtf? All I wrote was that Id like to see him commit to the abs for a decent length of time but it would be out of character for him to do so.
    What part of that is incorrect or is an attempt to start an argument.

    The part about character.
    He has committed to his employer for a decent length of time.
    They are happy he is with the All Black Sevens and would be happy if he was with the All Black 15s. Had Barrett also gone to the Sevens would you be questioning his commitment to the ABs?
    As for your other silly comments I have explained plenty that I just get sick of the bullshit talkback type comments that get directed at the guy. For years we had people claiming that he was a self centred glory seeker which has finally calmed down after numerous respected coaches have sung his praises for being unselfish.
    I would guess Dan Carter has sold his stories to women's magazines far more than SBW and has also insisted on contracts that allow him to do stuff away from the ABs yet he doesn't cop half the stuff SBW does.



  • Take your blinkers off, Carter was a loyal All Black for 12 years.
     
    Stupid comparison


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