All Blacks v Wales Test #3



  • Ok final test of the series at a packed glasshouse in Dunedin.
    What are everyone's thoughts on the side that should be named?
    According to Foxy there will not be wholesale changes, Hansen's comments make it sound like they might roll with Barrett at 10 and Lima off the bench.
    I expect Dixon will make his debut.



  • Ok final test of the series at a packed glasshouse in Dunedin.
    What are everyone's thoughts on the side that should be named?
    According to Foxy there will not be wholesale changes, Hansen's comments make it sound like they might roll with Barrett at 10 and Lima off the bench.
    I expect Dixon will make his debut.They probably want to give the new boys as much of a run as possible before TRC starts



  • yeah they said tweaks, Cruden to get a rest, all but enforced...so Lima or BB to start?
     
    What else can you do in the backs? Give Seta a start, or does Moala get a shot?
     
    my team:
     
    Crockett, Taylor, Franks
    Whitelock, PT
    Dixon, Read, Cane
    Smiith, BB
    Crotty, ST (assuming MF isnt right)
    Naholo, Dagg, Smith
     
    Coles, Moody, Faumuina, Romano, Savea, TJP, Sopoaga, Moala



  • I think you are pretty on the money there TR.
    I think Seta did well considering he had to come on so early - well up until the kick/tackle. I suspect Moala will be bench as he wasnt in initial squad and he can cover midfield/wing.



  • Id like to see PT start. Really like the look of him. I did say I wanted BB to start, but since its Limas home ground might as well give him a bash.



  • Not far away TR, but I suspect less changes in the forwards. Hansen seems to be a lot more conservative than the fans.
     
    I reckon:
     
    Moody will continue to start; Crockett on the bench.
     
    Retallick and Whitelock continuing and probably Tuipolotu on the bench. 
     
    Agree good to have Dixon and Taylor getting starts, but maybe Kaino on the bench instead of Tuipolotu?



  • Will be interesting to see how they play it.
    You wouldn't want to change too much or you risk losing the momentum from the first two games.
    You would think a few new guys might get time. I would think they might want to get Dixon and Squire on the field at least. Dmac might be less of a priority as he is so young and it could have been about getting him time in the squad instead.
    They have other guys they need to give time at 10 before him and might want to keep some stability in selections at the back with Dagg also coming back and Naholo being fairly fresh in what has been Savea's spot for they last few years.
    Same with Moala and Franklin as they were just cover for other guys. Although maybe Moala comes onto the bench if Fekitoa isn't right.
    I would expect LIma to get a shot either starting or off the bench. Especially now that Cruden had his knock. Might depend on Barretts flu who starts.
    I wouldn't mess with the tight 5 too much. Good to keep that consistent if you are going to bring new loosies in. Maybe Taylor to the bench.



  • If Ngatai is fit, like to see him at 12 paired with Crotty - otherwise would go with a Moala/Crotty centre pairing - with Moala at 12.
    Also like to see Dixon and PT start, Squire and Retallick on the bench.
    Looks like BB will get the nod at 10, that brings Lima onto the bench.



  • Crotty's best position IMO is 13. Therefore Ngātai/Crotty, probably then Crotty/Seta or else Moala/Crotty. But not Crotty/Fekitoa it just doesn't work. Aki/Crotty would have been handy.
    Heading forward SBW/Ioane maybe.



  • Crotty's best position IMO is 13. Therefore Ngātai/Crotty, probably then Crotty/Seta or else Moala/Crotty. But not Crotty/Fekitoa it just doesn't work. Aki/Crotty would have been handy.
    Heading forward SBW/Ioane maybe.

    :mocking: You throwing the Irish a bone ...?



  • We don't need to poach Irish players surely.



  • All the Crusaders players to be in the 23, eh ACTC!!  🙂
     
    I think Dixon will be the only newbie to start and it sounds like Barrett at 10 ahead of Sopoaga.  TKB on the bench, and Taylor replaces Harris.



  • Id like to see;
    Moody
    Taylor
    Franks
    Whitelock
    Tuipolutu
    Kaino
    Cane
    Read
    Smith
    Sopoaga
    Naholo
    Ngatai
    Tamanuvalu (sorry sp)
    Smith
    Dagg
    Coles
    Crockett
    Faumauina
    Dixon
    Squire
    TKB
    BB
    Moala
    To be fair, its bloody hard guessing who the selectors plan to rest and how/when they integrate the new players. A lot harder than trying to pick what their top team is that's for sure.



  • I'd like Sopoaga to start



  • From a Welsh perspective, I think we improved a little yesterday & I'd expect a little more next week.
    Personally I think they could do with taking a couple of risks squad wise. I'd seriously consider leaving Roberts out or at least removing him after 45/50 minutes. The guy looked in bits after 50 mins yesterday, was out on his feet. Scott Williams was poor against Waikato but offers far more offensively, especially when the game opens up.
    Also they have to put Matthew Morgan on the bench & give him 30mins. We've got nothing to lose at this point. If he gets mashed on defence a couple of times who cares, let's see if he can create something.
    Series has gone let's try to evolve our game & play more positive rugby.



  • Crotty defo isn't a 12.
    He's not a "visionary" or a creator. He's a safe pair of hands, who may grow into the organisational role at 13.
    Need a better read on the game at 12, a facilitator who can conjure something from nothing. I'd be interested to see what Ngatai and Moala can bring to the role.    
    For the future, Rieko looks a good prospect and also interested in the development of Laumape.



  • Team I'd pick
     
    Moody, Coles, Franks, Whitelock, Retallick, Dixon, Cane, Read, A Smith, Sopoaga, Naholo, Crotty, Tamanuvalu, Ben Smith, Dagg
     
    Bench: Crocckett, Taylor, Fauminia, Tuipolutu, A Savea, TJP, Beauden Barrett, Moala



  • Crotty defo isn't a 12.
    He's not a "visionary" or a creator. He's a safe pair of hands, who may grow into the organisational role at 13.
    Need a better read on the game at 12, a facilitator who can conjure something from nothing. I'd be interested to see what Ngatai and Moala can bring to the role.    
    For the future, Rieko looks a good prospect and also interested in the development of Laumape.

    I tend to agree with this, nothing against Crotty as a footballer , he may well be our 13, but dont see him as our long term solution at 12



  • From a Welsh perspective, I think we improved a little yesterday & I'd expect a little more next week.
    Personally I think they could do with taking a couple of risks squad wise. I'd seriously consider leaving Roberts out or at least removing him after 45/50 minutes. The guy looked in bits after 50 mins yesterday, was out on his feet. Scott Williams was poor against Waikato but offers far more offensively, especially when the game opens up.
    Also they have to put Matthew Morgan on the bench & give him 30mins. We've got nothing to lose at this point. If he gets mashed on defence a couple of times who cares, let's see if he can create something.
    Series has gone let's try to evolve our game & play more positive rugby.

    • 1,000,000


  • Another dead rubber test, I was much happier when we had two tests and a third against someone else.Thenwe could have looked forward to England or Ireland coming. The whole 3 test thing seemed like a copout, extra insurance in case one of the SH teams lose a test.